Why Bob Coy Can Come Back
On the morning of April 6, 2014 I was on my way to pick up my godson to go see “Captain America”.
While I was waiting to get gasoline, am email popped up on my phone from a trusted source.
That email contained internal Calvary Chapel memos about how to handle the fall of Bob Coy.
It was an enormous scoop.
I went to the movie anyway…I’d decided long before that my close friends and family had already had me interrupt life too often for such matters.
I wrote the story that afternoon and then spent the next few days avoiding calls from every major media source in the country.
I thought that was the end of Coy’s “ministry”…and it should have been.
Fast forward to the summer of 2017 when, amidst rumors that Coy was planning a comeback, a police report shows up in my email…accusing Coy of crimes against a child.
That started a three month deep dive into the world of Bob Coy and the politics of evangelicalism in South Florida.
I still can’t get the smell off of me.
Some pastors down there were quite helpful…not because they cared about the damage Coy could do and had done, but because they feared him coming back into their territory.
When it came time to stand up and go on the record, they retreated into the shadows to count their silver.
Even without the police report, Coy had (allegedly) left a trail of broken faith and broken lives that was staggering to deal with.
Expect more of those stories to come out…because it does appear that Coy is on the comeback trail.
We have confirmed that he owns his archive of messages from Calvary Chapel Ft. Lauderdale and I expect those to be online sooner than later.
He has financial backers and and a growing network of support from people outside the CC bubble.
All of that wouldn’t matter in a world that actually cared about biblical standards for leaders and that understood that harm to even one member of the Body of Christ hurts the whole Body of Christ.
We don’t live in that world.
If (when) Coy launches a new “work” he’ll launch with hundreds of glowing faces pleased beyond words that he’s back.
They will embrace and protect him as if it were the Second Coming of Christ Himself, because they are too ignorant to discern the difference between their idol and the Lord.
We will be attacked as if we had rejected the faith and scorned Christ online.
As our late, lamented, brother here used to say…”you wait, you watch, you’ll see”…
Free market religion will triumph again…and the cause of Christ will suffer yet another indignity.
When it all goes south on the idolaters…I’ll be at the movies.
You get what you pay for…
Make your own application…
This seems simple from this point on. There should be no more articles about the wickedness of Bob Coy – those stories have already been written and catalogued.
From this point on, the articles should be written about the idolators when attend his congregation – which would be 100% of them.
They are the one’s who need to be called out.
MLD,
That’s pretty much where I’m at at this point.
Are people being told all the accusations are lies? Fake News, they believe?
Are people relying on Cheap Grace (It was all covered by the Blood.)
Do they imagine he is repentant?
Do they think his “excellent teaching” outweighs his moral degeneracy?
Are people so enthralled by celebrity that they are blind? (Coy’s only a celebrity in a very small corner of the Christian world.)
Are they simply gawkers?
Are there no other preachers in S. Florida that they must provide an audience for this guy?
I don’t get it.
This reminds me of a story I’ve told here before, when I was the director of a home school groups and was planning the annual family camp. One member wanted to bring her relative, a former pastor, who was just out of jail for molesting a 5-year old boy. She kept telling me that God has forgiven him and so should I. We argued quite a bit about this. She brought the pervert. He spent the whole time down at the creek with the little boys in swim suits.
She said he repented of his sins. If he had repented, why did he plead Not Guilty? Well, we wouldn’t want him to go to jail since God has forgiven him.
MLD let’s see how this plays out. Maybe CCA will forgive Bob and admit him back into their elite celebrity pastor club. There is nothing more Chuck Smith like than that kind of second chance.
Xenia,
All of the above…celebrity is as much a drug for the celebrants as the celebrity…
Steve – and? So CCA says he is forgiven – so? Even I said on the other Coy thread that he is forgiven (which of our sins did Jesus not die for?)
All the people who will populate hell will be forgiven sinners – so obviously forgiveness is not the question here.
If you by some strange occurrence ended up at Coy’s church, is that on Coy or you?
Sigh…
Let me repeat myself.
This has little or nothing to do with any of the fragments of whatās left of Calvary Chapel.
CC and Coy are both tainted brands and donāt need or want each other.
The CCA doesnāt want or need the uproar that would come with his affiliation.
I’m sorry, but I think a really basic mistake is being made, similar to the thread on Linkathon and the observations by the InternetMonk. I’ll take it further still… I think Michael made a mistake in placing this in the category of “Church Issues”.
This has nothing to do with anything that one can even vaguely refer to as “Church”.
Yes, it is a gathering of people. Yes, there’s a guy up in front holding a Bible. Does that make it “Church” that is in any way recognizable from descriptions that we have from the first through fifth centuries? Is it in any way recognizable from what we see in the Pauline corpus? Does it bear the marks of what we call “Church” – one, holy, catholic and apostolic? We are talking about something that is vaguely “religious”, headed by a minor celebrity who can, apparently, entertain a crowd, but we are not talking about “Church”.
Maybe we should put this alongside the reviews of Captain America, where we can comment on the skill of the actors, the quality of the production and who’s doing what with whom from the pages of People magazine.
Call it what you will, but not “Church”….
I agree with Duane and I thought I was making that point on the other thread when I said I had no compassion for anyone who does business with him – and that business would include a church type venture.
I don’t think we need to go any further than to classify him with Elmer Gantry (fictional) or Marjoe Gortner.
Darn!!!! Didn’t see this threat till posted on the last one.
Ok, I’ve copied my question here.
During one of my CC ātrainingsā it was explained to start in religious nonprofit in the US, you must state your religious ordination (for brevityās sake, leaving out the christianeeze).
I think thatās partially untrue in that you can theoretically start your own denom or 5013c without affiliation with anyone, but thatās longer and requires more $.
Anyway, since Bob was ordained and later use that to register with FL for tax purposes, wonāt he reuse it for the same reasons?
If so, doesnāt that make whichever CC side for oversight in FL culpable?
In other words, unless he got his own corp in FL, wonāt he HAVE TO technically be a CC?
You see where Iām going.
(new addition)
With a police report-publicly available, if Bob allegedly does something else allegedly (yes, I’m being careful), won’t THAT finally pierce the liability-veil of the sacred affiliation where everyone acts like the three monkeys (don’t see/hear/speak)?
thx.
Sigh twice…
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CALVARY CHAPEL!!!!
Coy filed for a completely separate non profit and there was no affiliation mentioned with any organization.
I just filed for non profit status for all my ministries yesterday…it is a new short form and the cost is half of what it used to be.
I did not affiliate with any other ecclesiastical group.
This whole mess now has nothing to do with either side of CC…it has everything to do with Bob Coy.
Oh, nevermind, there’s never been any admission of guilt.
Also, I’m cobbling together my half-baked legal knowledge from tv/movies.
However, at least my motive is pure. I mean, if the Holy Spirit is greived by us, He must vommit when, in His name a child is brutalized – physically and emotionally.
At this point, since the RC and large portions of the us protestants have ignored the duty of protecting them, I’d be open for ANYTHING to try, including stripping all churches of the nonprofit status – it wasn’t given for the purposes its used for today’s anyway (those of who involved in actually helping the needy and poor are excluded from my comment).
Whether or not these are real churches is a morass for another time…
Michael,
Sorry, I never understood the process.
To whomever was talking about shaming attendees.
There’s another option.
In my world, which I won’t describe except the vague reference to make a point here, I can assure you there are forces which would make handy work out of Bob’s “ministry” and all records its storing ($-backers), they could feel the pain as well.
Anonymous is but one group.
I’m actually surprised with the well-reported examples (some hide what was behind it) of obvious reprisals, more religious orgs haven’t been punished.
Trust me, these groups don’t give two hoots about the Dove nor will “pray about it” before devastating anything $.
Several of our own gov agencies, many large Corps, and others have felt their wrath.
Anonymous went after one CC pastor and threatened me about 2003…nothing came of it.
“They will embrace and protect him as if it were the Second Coming of Christ Himself, because they are too ignorant to discern the difference between their idol and the Lord.”
Michael – you hit the nail on the head with that comment.
I guess i would question who the “they” are/is in this scene? Anyone who would embrace Coy at this point may not be “CC”, but they would be “CC friendly” or “CC familiar”. He does not have to be affiliated with CC to pull a bunch of money from that pot o’ gold.
Where else is he going to get his funding/audience from? Where else do these backers come from? Does he have a brand in South Florida that transcends into a wider evangelical circle? If so, why did he work in a nightclub and not transition to another church staff position?
And yeah, I see him pop up on my FB friends request list…no thanks.
Papias,
Coy is a brand unto himself.
He didn’t go back into ministry because some blogger has kept the heat on every time he thought about starting again…that is no longer enough of an impediment…
MLD, I know it’s all idolatry but not all the congregants read this blog or are aware of all the circumstances. CCA has a role in this since they probably knew stuff long before it became public. Yeah they dropped him but my recollection is they didn’t say much. When I am talking about forgiveness, I’m not talking about God’s forgiveness but rather the organization restoring one to fellowship and maybe even leadership. David Hocking ring a bell?
Steve,
It’s not going to happen.
Haven’t completed reading this thread, but it seems MLD is on target.
Can’t recall the O. T. reference, but it declares don’t “refirm” a murderer… I think i got kicked put of Bible Study Fellowship because i argued that reforming and forgiving were not interchangeable terms… actually, it probably was because i think R.B. Thieme was a valid Bible teacher ?
Steve, since 99.9999999999999999% of the population do not read this blog, I would expect folks to get the info by other means. In the past 15 years (Google time) have you ever gone to a church without first Googling bot the church and pastor to see what’s up? I am sure if a newby pewster were to google some new start up church, much about Bob Coy would pop up. Hey, perhaps it shouldn’t be, but it is a buyer beware world.
Hey, if a friend tells me he is going to a new church, I google to see if he is making a misstep.
All
Sorry for my comment above, it was out of line. I could edit it out, but I prefer my mistakes in judgement to be there as a reminder.
After spending part of the morning talking to a so-called “church consultant”, I’m a bit beyond grumpy. It seems as though all you need to do today is to come up with clever alliteration – encounter, embody, extend – and hang whatever you want to on to the words. It seems that it is no longer about “church”, it’s about marketing. What’s worse is that someone like Coy may find takers for his “services” on that basis.
Again, my apologies…
Duane,
Itās all good…
Michael
Many thanks… I hoped you would understand…
Michael,. What’s not going to happen? Coy may make a strong comeback. It’s all about the numbers. If Coy became super famous and actually appear to repent and gets a huge following bigger and better than before, I’m sure CC would welcome him with open arms.
Steve,
There are numerous dynamics at work in this and while nothing is impossible, this is close enough.
It has nothing to do with numbers…
It’s a real broad brush stroke to call it all idolatry in the pews. Some are ignorant, some have baggage of their own that wants to see Coy get a fourth fifth sixth chance. Etc. It doesn’t negate the fact that some little turtles at the bottom of the stack need to belch their disapproval.
Michael,. I’m more cynical then you.
If you support Coy in light of what is known about his character, you are either an idolater or cognitively challenged. Period
Duane
Your last comment was strangely in concert with what I was talking about with the Spencer article.
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Michael,
Yeah, well, grace is ugly, isn’t it…?
I don’t support Coy, for clarity. That guy needs to be fine and making me a pretty little drink
Jerod,
Grace for who?
Bob or the trail of victims?
The Christians that support him! The dinguses that will seek his advice or listen to his motivational speeches.
Done… Not fine! Silly predictive text, geez
Those who support him are complicit in his evil and the denial of justice to those he harmed. Itās way past time that we made people responsible for the sin they perpetuate.
āThose who support him are complicit in his evil and the denial of justice to those he harmed. Itās way past time that we made people responsible for the sin they perpetuate.ā
Powerful statement, Michael. Application beyond the scoundrel Coy.
Pierced my heart, as the migrant/refugee situation at our border and beyond continues to keep me up each night.
Anne,
I donāt know if youāre on the Frontera list…if you are you have good reason to be up nights.
Iām at a loss where to even start on that subject…
Duane @ 1:15 – I would love to see a post about your experience with the consultant. What you said further validates what I’ve been saying and seeing and contributes to my cynicism about both church leadership training and the growth of consumer Christianity. Trying to find Christians that don’t look for the things you mentioned is very difficult. It’s a vicious circle that is rotting the church both from the inside out and outside in. Nothing new, but to me too many deny that they participate in it while participating in it.
Start at funding beds
If I misunderstand plz correct me, that this is not a CCftl problem anymore. I do not agree. Here is why, CalvaryChapelAbuse.com had been posting for years the moral failing of Coy. Including paying off families to move out of S Florida that Coy had affairs w married women, to they were forced to put his sister in law as his secretary in Ft Lauderdale to keep taps on him and try to stop his serial adultery. Obviously this didnāt work. Then we rumors came out that the women in the April 2014 relationship actually went to powers to be (Board) at CCftl and outed Coy. However they did nothing. So this women went to a affiliated pastor who speaks as a guest at CCftl and had a parenting program on reach FM. This women asked him for help, and he went to the Board of Directors and gave them an ultimatum to call Coy our on the carpet or he will. And the Boardās arm was bent forcing them to be removed. It makes sense bc the next week Chet Lowe spent the entire service discussing this w the church by stating Our pastor has āmultiple affairsā which was new and different than the press release (see how they let it out a little at a time) , AND thank God for the Nathan that called him out. Fast forward to November 2017 when the New Times came out w the molestation. Calvary FtL said these allegations happen after he was removed and we pray for all involved any questions go ask Bob. Lol BUT the church CCftl keeps Coy around sprinkling his name here and there as the founder etc. Basically they dressed him up in his 300 shirts and jeans, white teeth and covered all his evilness to make money. I bet you this is a āgroomingā of the community and eventually Coy and Ccftl will reconcile may be years frm now, may happen through a Coy family member but Coy is not staying in S Florida for nothing. They say once you smell a rotten dead rat, you will never forget that smell. Itās a rat and itās rotten.
I don’t support Coy but the “Moses model” may become the “king David” model. David did worse then Coy and after being confronted by Nathan and repenting, he was called a man after God’s own heart.
I wonder if the SBC would take him? Kind of follow in Greg Laurie’s steps.
None of the CC churches in S. Florida want Coy to come back, including CCFTL.
The reason?
Everyone he starts with will be transfer growth from their churches…and most of the growth thereafter.
There are no legitimate parallels between the chosen king of a theodicy and a weasel who can’t keep his pants on.
Coy does have friends in the SBC down there…but I seriously doubt that they would embrace him in the current climate they work in…
Steve, I wonder why it took an outside pastor to bend the strong arm of CCftl to call Coy to the carpet? You know how much distress this caused on the community? First shock, then sadness, then we wanted to rally and support the church/pastors and staff. But little by little the pieces didnāt add up. And thatās when anger set in. We feel used and suddenly even the Frappuccinoās at the Grille seemed like we were being sold and marketed. I stopped attending regularly months before his departure bc Coy never ever preached about family or marriage. Now know why. The fall of the mega church that needed an outsider to make Coy accountable. I wonder why no one else inside could. But like Michaelās blog states, they hid counting their silver pieces.
There are no legitimate parallels between the chosen king of a theodicy and a weasel who canāt keep his pants on.
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For starters, King David was not only sexually abusive and an adulterer but a liar and a murderer. But I agree, not a good parallel for the church just as Moses was not a good parallel for the pastor. But for some weird reason, I think Coy may get everything back plus some.
Maybe a better modern day example would be Trump. No one thought he could win the presidency. The timing is kind of ironic with Trump kicking off his own re-election campaign in the sunny state of Florida.
This development is very disturbing to me. I had hoped that Bob’s memory would just fade away and healing would continue for those hurt…
I have some questions out of curiosity, if anyone can answer: 1) Did Bob reconcile with his wife? 2) Is he with his family at this time? 3) Are any other pastors supporting him or claiming they have reformed him, or is he just a lone wolf doing this?
Jim,
1. No
2. No
3. Not publicly…but there are some…
Damn. Can I say that word here? The day I post about Tullian Tchividjian making a comeback, you are posting this. Gag! When will it ever end? WARNING: Tullian Tchividjian Attempts a Ministry Comeback by Faking True Restoration and Repentance with His Victims; AND Heās Starting a New Church???
Thanks Michael.
“I wonder if the SBC would take him?”
Nope.
This is a man who was used by God at one time to lead many to faith.
Then, after many years, he did some of the most heinous and ugly things with his body with a young, attractive new believer … just mere steps from and moments before entering the pulpit to preach the Word of a holy, righteous God.
While his worship team led the congregation in worship, he was using an gratifying himself sexually in his office.
I can not wrap my mind around this development. If I were Bob Coy, I would be about as afraid to to touch the Word of God about as much as an O.T. Jew would casually walk up and touch the Ark of the Covenant.
It comforts me to know that God sees and knows everything. He will handle this either now…or later. Take your pick.
I think the trait that will dog the reputation/legacy of Evangelicalism in future generations is a lack of critical thinking. Unprincipled thoughts, actions, and decisions give us blight like Coy.
This thread needs some levity.
Lenny Dykstra lost his dentures.
“So began what [Lenny] Dykstra says was ultimately a nine-hour Dumpster dive that heĀ tweeted about. He enlisted a friend, tag-team wrestler Sprinkles the Clown, to help.”
Will-whosoever, so Coy actually was to that point? Minutes before stepping out to preach? I heard years ago that the church paid off a family to move out of S Florida bc he had a thing w a married women. I know he had his ribs broke in a classroom by a disgruntled husband. Needed a bodyguard after that. So how many more stories are out there? Why no one stopped him. He used to complain on the pulpit that people ājudgedā him bc he was having lunch w his niece. Told the congregation donāt jump to conclusions. It is apparent he knew and planned this behavior. What a jerk.
What does SBC stand for?
Slowly Becoming Catholic. ?
SBC- Southern Baptist Convention…
“Then, after many years, he did some of the most heinous and ugly things with his body with a young, attractive new believer ā¦ just mere steps from and moments before entering the pulpit to preach the Word of a holy, righteous God.”
The story of what happened to that new believer has yet to be told…
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Will Whosoever — I can’t wrap my brain around this new news either.
Back in 2017 when the New Times published the story about the police report, keep in mind that the New Times is a Miami publication (I believe) and also a smaller news source.
Miami (Dade County) is the county south of Fort Lauderdale (Broward County).
For some reason, Broward County’s newspaper called the SunSentinel, didn’t publish the story nor did the Miami Herald. (To the best of my recollection).
This 2017 police report story was now 3 years after Coy’s 2014 fall from ministry. Most people were getting on with their lives and unless you googled his name, one was unaware of this latest development.
I can only speculate as Michael stated in his post that there must be some politics of evangelism here in S. Florida.
Unfortunately having experience w rape victims, statistics are 1 in 5women are sexually assaulted. Would not surprise me if āthe young, attractive, new believerā was not consensual. Just a feeling I have bc I have heard of very distraught women being taken advantage by Coy. Rape survivors do not come forward immediately they need to heal, feel safe before they are strong enough to go to police. And who would believe her āif my assumptionā is true? The Sun Sentinel refused to even write about the allegations of molestation, even w a police report. If you would have a police report that you molested a child on record, nothing else would surprise me. But hoping the truth would come out.
I sincerely apologize for my graphic post, but his sin is so radical and it altered that make up artist’s life. That’s just one life ruined…
How can we possibly quantify the damage to those who simply walked away from Jesus quietly when the news broke out? Just discussing it here furthers the pain and conflict.
To much is given, much is required…and yet my own sin haunts me and I know by the grace of God there go I… I wish I had the power of Elizabeth Montgomery and that I could just ‘wiggle my nose’ and I could make him and the aftermath all go away…
Jessica, from what I know, sadly, it was mutually consensual.
Will,
What do you know about the make up artist and the aftermath of this?
You can email me privately if you prefer… phoenixpreacher@gmail.com
If he has repented and is back in good standards with God, good for him. As Christians, we must forgive as God forgave us, BUT, that doesn’t mean it is ok to accept everything else. Voy should NOT come back as a pastor , NO WAY NO HOW. I have been going to Calvary for over 20 years, and yes he was missed at the beginning, but as a person, not as a Pastor. He should stay where he is wherever that is and continue to pray and continue to repent.
I stand corrected. I googled Bob Coy’s name and The Miami Herald did indeed post an article about the police report. Article dated November 14, 2017.
As Jessica stated, The Sun Sentinel chose not to expose this story…
Ugh, this Coy story makes me sick.
A makeup artist for a pastor? I think that just sums the whole thing up. The next church we decide to go to, gonna ask does the pastor have his own makeup artist? If so I am out of there.
Just a bunch but maybe folks should probably stop mentioning the vic’s role and situation… easy to figure out …
Might be worth a deletion
Jarod I didnāt know, I heard rumors bu. And no we donāt need to know the ādetailsā but as far as victims I have stayed strong that a child is a victim, a under age girl is a victim and rape survivor is a victim all in a court of law. If he had a thing w a makeup artist itās consensual and not a victim. And then it is a lesson for us all about idolizing a person. To add to that it was Bob Barnes who stated over and over in sermons that he had to āclearā the 2 front ties of Ccftl every time he visited bc of āgroupiesā of Coys. If all this is true, it should not be deleted. It should be exposed as what it is covered up idolatry.
You, the writers of the darkness of Bob Coy, are you without sinful/criminal thoughts or events. I think not. You rightoeus writers who batter and continue to batter Bob Coy, believe you are doing right. Long necked arenāt you. Of course when a burden arises so many psychologically imbalanced people come out of the woodwork and point fingers. When one false exclamation is directed it remains in the minds and internet as truth.
The only Truth is our Lord and He is Loving and all is between Him ABBA and Bob Coy.
TJ,
You are sadly deluded and following a wolf that has been outed.
Please stop drinking the Kool Aid.
Either that or should we ask how much does Bob Coy pay you?
How does a Swedish pop band figure into all this?
Maybe because Bob Coy is the Dancing Queen? Dunno? š
Youāre comment: āThey will embrace and protect him as if it were the Second Coming of Christ Himself, because they are too ignorant to discern the difference between their idol and the Lord.ā
Have you ever attended Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? Pastor Bob Coy was never an idol to me or to thousands of others. He taught from the Bible every Wednesday and every weekend. Are you serious about what you said above? Pastor Bob would always say to give glory to the Lord only and that he just teaches the word of God. If anyone chose to idolize him, that was their choice. I am overwhelmed and shocked by everything that Iām reading online about Pastor Bob Coy. We are all sinners and we all fall short of the glory of God. The devil comes to kill steal and destroy lives. Satan comes like a roaring lion trying to devour its prey( Jesus followers). He hates God and tries to destroy Godās children. We are living in the end times and I personally know that the attacks are more and more to all born again Christians that I know… including Pastor Bob. He really loved the Lord and always wanted to obey God. People are trying to destroy all that he has done for the glory of God. No one should take that away from him. When he got caught up in sinful behavior, I believe that it was from the pit of hell that he slowly fell away from Jesus… I hope and pray that only the truth will be spoken or written and nothing else. So again, he was a great pastor and teacher. Please donāt take that away from him because that is true. He never wanted to be idolized. What people choose to do has nothing to do with Pastor Bob. We all need prayer and so does he. Jesus says to love one another but what I see is not love. Itās people saying bad things about others- Sadly people donāt want to hear about good things but only the bad. This world is getting worse and worse and we all need Jesus. Praise his holy name. Amen.
I personally know the girl he abused. Mike Rozell Of Potterās Field tried to cover it up while I was interning there. Bob is a wicked wicked man.
“Let him without sin.cast the first stone!”
Who are you to be so unforgiving .
Do you not have Christ in your heart.
I am a god fearing believer.with Jesus as my savior. Have you ever met.bob coy?
Have you ever had a simple conversation with the man. Or walked a mile in his shoes.
I find it is very easy to be negative or condisending. From afar . I have seen way to many casual christians point a finger at someone.remember that when you do this there’s 4 pointing back at you.
But i met the man..talked with him.
I suggest that you do the same .
Then I am positive you would .
just pray for the man.
I have personally have talked with the man.
He Has The demenor. And the humbleness.
That only comes from having.Christ in your heart.and God in your life.
So i say before you pick up that stone.again
Let him without sin.cast the first stone!
My name is jeff.glasser .
People it.easy.to.point a finger and be a follower. What I suggest is you fall to your. Knees.face down
And ask Christ into your heart .
Pray for people . Do you not know that.the enemy ls a roaring lion looking to seek and destroy. The children of God. .so as i have said .
I will pray that .God softens your .hard hearts.
Your’s sincerely ; a servant in Christ.
… jeffrey Glasser
Also calvary chapel of.ft.laud has and has had a strict policy that the pastor’s and.I mean.all pastors and asst. Have another present. When dealing with the body of.Christ. when.it comes to the pastor .there is three (3) count them .3.
With him all the time. during sermons , before and, after.this is fact not myth or.hear.say. but hard fact. By the way I was at cavalry chapel . When there.were 15 people at the funeral home I watch it move behind Albertson on commercial blvd. Where a Godly man .would preach the word of God to over flowing believers. I was there when it moved to a commercial warehouse in pompano. Where at
That location a man of God would preach .
Three times on Sunday 6 ..8.. 11 am- twice on wed. And 7 pm on Saturday evening .I watched that man of God evangelize till he had holes in his.shoe’s .he drove not a new.car but a beater box ,for those.who do not know what that means beat up and runned down .not a new cadillac or a Mercedes or Rolls-Royce. Like some of these pastors do. If i was a finger pointer.well let’s not do that .
that is how we got here
He lived in the same house
Well i watched it grow and grow and grow. With God blessings so much .they out grow the place
That was to last as the permanent home .i saw them pay the buildings off completely .
God was truly blessing this.man of.God .
I watched God bless cavalry with 75 acres w/5 buildings on it was a very large computer company complex it had 20,000 employees
Let me show you a Godly man .or at least the heart of a Godly man I was there .when the news.came in
That the chairman of harris.computer’s had made a challenge of faith he was a member of cavalry chapel ft.lauderdale
He said that.god. had put it upon his heart to offer harris company complex to the.church for
$25,000000 (twenty. -five million dollars ).wow .and he would give c.c.ftl. $5,000000. Towards the purchase. I was there when. Bob Coy hot on the ground prostrated on his face .face down and ask the Lord ..If.this.was of.him and for the Lords glory that would. He.please
Make a way. Well praise God. Out of the blue we were offered a very large endowment from a Christian organization well in a short span needless to say between the endowment and the chairman of harris.computer’s offer cavalry chapel. Ft.lauderdale only had to.come up with.7,000000 that’s seven million well with the.sell of the properties of the.current church that they were at. Cavalry had to come up with somewhere. Around $2,000000 or.so. so for tje.first time. Cavalry chapel ft.lauderdale was ask to.take up a offering .you see cc ftl. Does not take an offer up at any time because Bob coy had faith in what God had told him so if uou.wanted to tithe ther.were boxes in the back for tithing.
Matter fact one of.the members that owned Kentucky fried chicken donated a.bunch of.buckets well.needless to say the bank made the loan and God blessed again . So please just
Have a .Godly HEART AND PRAY For Bob coy not comdination yes i know bob.coy and I.was .around him a lot so please think and prey before you speak.
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Mr. Glasser,
Bob Coy is an evil man by any measure of the word.
It’s been over 5 years. Why not hear the man out? There are plenty of pastors who came back sooner after doing much worse. If he has repented and wants to launch a new ministry (minus the snarky quotation marks), what’s the problem?
It must be nice to be perfect like you are.
Lovie,
Unfortunately, the public is unaware of how bad a man Bob Coy is.
I am nowhere near perfect,but I have not been accused of child molestation and serial adultry.
So accusations are proof of guilt now? I pray that you are never accused of guilt, because I don’t want you to be denied the due process that you are withholding from Mr. Coy. There wasn’t a trial, nor was he ever convicted of child molestation.
And I don’t recall the details of his “moral failings” ever being disclosed to the public. If they have been, please provide a link and I will read it. Adultery is not beyond Gods’s ability to forgive. Especially, if Mr. Coy has truly repented. Like I said, it’s been five years. I’m willing to hear the man out. God gave him the gift of teaching and preaching. If Mr. Coy has truly repented, why not let him use that gift to lead to people Christ?
At the end of my previous message I said…. “It must be nice to be perfect like you are.” That was snarky and I’m sorry. I should have left that out, but I was irritated.
Lovie,
Be irritated, I donāt care.
Iāve had to live with the whole story of what Bob Coy has done for years…years of sleepless nights, anxiety, and grief over his victims.
If he ever tries to come back Iāll tell their stories…and you will understand.
I know a lot of people who ran in Coyās circle. Back in the day he was hanging around members in Turnberry Isle on yachts. I personally have been turned around and marched away from Coy on early morning Sundays before service while volunteering, which then I thought was strange. Looking back he was never alone to actually try and control his behavior and serial adultery. they even put a family member of Coys as his secretary to try and keep him in line and watch him. There were 2 Coys, on stage Coy and the real Coy. Would not surprise me if his name pops up in Epsteinās little black book. For all you here in disbelief on these accusations/police report and stating itās been 5 years, I urge you to read the news of today about child predators evil times we live in. Coy should never be in ministry or near kids again.
Has this happened yet? Is it in the works?
I am not concerned about his moral problems. Pastor Coy has excellent teaching qualities. He brought back my interest in learning. I miss his lectures etc.
Did he ever teach about the qualifications of being a Pastor?
Dorothy and Lovie,
Excuse my terms, but you are blind, enthralled with yet another celebrity pastor, and frankly, clueless.
I think some of these women who are defending this guy have crushes on him.
Jeffery Glasser
As I read your post about Coy one thing kept coming up in almost every one of your sentences, blessings.
For some reason your whole post seems to equate “blessings” with being godly. The truth is, and it’s in the bible, material blessings do not equal a relationship with God. One can fall on their face and “call on the name of the lord” and yet be very far from Him.
Please read the book of Habakkuk where the prophet asks the question about the wicked and their prosperity. God’s response is interesting and please consider how that might compare to men like Coy who use the name of the Lord in vain.
Bob is still living in Florida, in Miracle Mile DFB, he goes to Church he will always love the Lord, Hes a sinner saved by Grace, and the stories of him with a child are false and a lie, and If any of you out there are without sin, then cast that first stone, If not shut up and listen for Gods voice, because your not going to hear him when he calls you or not.
MichaelM, you shut your ignorant, idolatrous mouth, imbecile. Howās that work for you?
Matthew 7 Do Not Judge
7 āJudge[a] not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what [b]judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brotherās eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, āLet me remove the speck from your eyeā; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brotherās eye. YOU ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES BURN IN HELL
1. Gossip is divisive. 2. Gossip is poisonous. 3. Gossip is foolish. 4. Gossip is not in Godās plan Gossip divides relationships, destroys trust, and the pain associated with gossip is felt long after the words are spoken. And Thats All Your Doing Here Michael
12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13God judges those outside. āPurge the evil person from among you.ā
I have the documents that make it clear that this is not gossip. Go worship your adulterer.
Michael Newnham, AKA the “Phoenix Preacher”, has repeatedly made unfounded accusations against the Calvary Chapel Association -Propaganda of the Phoenix Preacher- Sorry You were someones Bitch when you were in Jail in Iran-YOU ARE DEMONIC AND NOBODY SHOULD EVER POST HERE AGAIN-ALL LIES
I will say itās been a while since I was condemned to the pit…I must be doing something right….
Iāve never been in prison. Iāve never been to Iran. I have on of the top Christian websites in the world. You may need medication.
Do you repent of your lies? Do you know where you live? Hopefully there is a caregiver close by…
I only worship The lord in the name of Yeshua the Mashiach I cant believe with your tone that what spews out of your mouth comes from God, The Joy of the Lord Is my strength, and you seem to have no Joy, If what I dug up about you is wrong and incorrect, imagine what may be wrong about others you dug up? If we love the same God, I dont see the evidence here, I went CCFTL since 1993, and Bob Coy to me is a mere man, who has his faults and sins, as you and I do too, Who made you superior in your mind, Who Made you Judge and Jury, I dont Idolize any man, and I dont believe every word I read here either, by you or other Gossipers here. When does a sinner get forgiven, and how do you know that he hasnt asked for that forgiveness, I wont judge, I will leave that to small people like yourself who get off on exactly what you accuse of others, you do yourself,.
When you start off your editorial here “Why Bob Coy Can Come Back”- And then you go on a rampage to tear him and CC down, Thats deceiving and God doesnt deceive, Satan deceives, so this whole article is false like the person who wrote it.
I will oppose Bob Coy with my last breath…based on facts…to protect innocent people from him and protect the Body of Christ.
You are so stupid you confused me with Saeed Abedini…who I also exposed as a fraud.
Itās been fun, but itās time for you to go away now.
If you have so much to give people from The Lord. Why would you waste your last breath on Bob Coy, He doesnt think about you, Hes paying for his sins, maybe not in a prison, but he made a prison in his own mind by his actions, hes lost everything, and you cant let go, who hurt you so bad that you started in South Florida and ended up in Bend Oregon, wow you really wanted to get as far away as possible, and 1 other question, if your such a great christian, how could you be a Registered Democrat, and that is a fact when they stand for Abortion, in any trimester?? Wow You will stand before God, but will he really know you??
You are special.
Iāve never been in Florida or Iran.
Youāre not much of a researcher…
Saeed Abedini is an Iranian American Christian pastor who was imprisoned in Iran for threatening “national security” by making Christian gatherings. You met him in an Iranian jail?? lol
You are getting close to legally actionable stuff.
Iāll ban you when I get home, but you might want to quit.
Iāve never been to Florida or Iran and I donāt live in Bend.
Never been in jail, anywhere.
My opposition to Coy comes from a love of the church…which deserves better than his ilk.
The Point i was making to you, is the stuff i said I found online about you, It probably isnt all true, but its on the internet, people say a lot of things that arent true, I believe nothing of what I hear, half of what I see and just because its written in Black in White, doesnt make it true. Id rather listen to John Hagee than listen to your mouth and your lies.
I have to have proof of what I write due to legal liability.
You just lied for sport and expect to get away with it.
āYou were someones Bitch when you were in Jail in Iran-YOU ARE DEMONIC AND NOBODY SHOULD EVER POST HERE AGAIN-ALL LIESā
Mr. M
As a follower of Jesus I find your statement offensive and embarrassing.
MM,
He’s been banned.
I apologize for letting him bait me…long day.
I attended Calvary Chapel for 5 years and i remember hearing Bob Coy repeatedly telling all of us if we were living together to get out of his church, all the time he was having his moral failing or so they call it.
Enough of this.
What are we doing for Hurricane Dorian victims who have lost everything? Consider the Red Cross, Caribbean Salvation Army, Agape Flight, etc.
C5,
It’s not your place to monitor conversations here.
It is my place …and I’ll make those calls,not you.
C5 Are you on drugs. This is a conversation about Bob Coy. There are plenty of sites to advertise help for victims.
The beauty of Christiany is forgiveness. Bob Coy didn’t commit the unforgivable sin which you are ignorant of. Read the Bible! We all are in the flesh. Upon repentance the Lord forgives. No one worshiped Bob Coy we loved him for the way he taught the word making it relatable.. He made the word come alive. We don’t judge that’s God’s job & he doesn’t need any help. Bob did sin & only God has the right to judge. Remember Jesus forgave those who killed Him! People like you have the heart of Satan!
C. Lang,
Iāve read it and taught it for 30 years, you blithering idiot.
Coy can be forgiven of God but never restored to a place where he can abuse others.
Paul demanded we judge… look it up.
People in his church who were living together weren’t committing the unforgivable sin either but he wanted them out of his church all the while committing adultery and whatever else he was doing.
C.Lang,
Actually, like Michael said, we HAVE been given the right and command to judge (those inside the church). Please read your Bible.
Hello my brother. I’ve been away for a long time because of personal matters as you are well aware of. But as usual, you are hitting home runs with your accuracy and accounts. God bless you Michael.
Decades ago, I tried to see this pastor for counseling. There was a figurative wall of women surrounding him who would not let me speak with him directly. I got the feeling that they felt that I wanted to hit on him or that I might try to seduce him. I just wanted to go to the horses mouth on a biblical issue, nothing more.
Instead, I spoke with a church member, who was useless as a counselor. Now I see that I dodged a bullet. Leaving Calvary Chapel seemed to be a very good decision.
I attended CC in the later 2000s. The ministry out reached of the church were fantastic. I enjoyed Bob Coys style of preaching and his wife’s Bible studies. I moved away and recently checked online to see how the church was doing. Saddened, confused, disgusted, searching back in memory for any signs cracks in the armour for these types of behaviors. Of course obviously Coy was found out and could no longer hid his addiction and infidelities, and forced to resign. I can’t imagine the pain his behaviors caused his family, church family and the community. I found your website/ reporting along with other news reports. IF he was involved in molestation of a young child then law enforcement should’ve looked to see if he was watching child pornography. I believe in redemption. However, tif the young girl that released him from the accusations with law enforcement truly was victimized she will need much counseling to overcome not only sexual abuse but emotional, and spiritual abuse as well. Even IF he is not guilty returning to ministry should not occur. The sharing of the Gospel will go forth and succeed without him in the pulpit. He needs to continue with restoring his life out of the limelight!!! One last comment/ question. It shouldn’t have been difficult for folks in the church hierarchy to additional law enforcement as to discovering the truth about the young girls claims. Coy would’ve had access to a small circle of friends who had a young girl of that age and whose mother moved away from the church to California when the girl became a teenager. If the mother believed her daughter enough to have called law enforcement 3 years after Coy leaving the church then law enforcement should’ve investigated for the girls sake. I’m sorry if the community was still dealing with the schock and disbelief of Coys downfall and behaviors. Those types of charges are serious and completely different than adultery between two consenting adults…still sin, and likely spiritual abuse, but not a serious crime like pedophilia.
Man the mouth on some of you is very vulgar… imagine a non Christian reading some of these comments, what would they think of our God? Are we in here representing him well? Be better, let God be glorified through our speech on this platform.
Imagine an non Christian reading that Christians support a creep like Coy…
I absolutely LOVED Bob’s teachings and went to Calvary Chapel for 20+ years. One of the last things I did with my son was go to Israel with some of the church congregants and Bob. Wonderful trip!!! One of the best experiences of my life. His announcement (literally) came right after he got back. This was a confession on his part. He was guilty and there may have been factors leading to this confession but he did confess. His life changed forever…and I’m sure he knew that was going to happen too. Bob had an anointing on him from the Lord. I was saddened and shocked… as most were. My family has moved out of the area. today I decided to do a search on Bob/what became of him. Not much on the web but and then I ran across this forum. I remember that song …”my hope is built on nothing less…than Jesus blood and righteousness…on Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand…”. You may want to consider these lyrics. Also, when I read these back and forth comments I’m equally saddened. The Bible tells me they’ll know us by our fruits. My advise is we focus on God, and loving one another. Jesus told us to do this. If Bob reads this post…I hope he’ll take the same advise. Jesus is the restorer of our soul. Making amends and peace with others cleanses our soul and frees those that we harmed.
God Bless you all.
Sean M.
I never went to Bob’s church, but I did watch a couple videos of his preaching and he did have a gift, however I don’t think it was “God’s anointing.” What he had was charisma, something most big time leaders have.
Also ask yourself, “why are there so many men throughout history who are clearly evil and yet extremely successful in gathering people around them?”
Let’s save “God’s anointing” for the one who truly has it, Jesus, and consider what that anointing really means and the role of the one anointed is.
If he does get another church I pray he will not demand his congregation to get out of his church if they are sinners. We are all sinners. Not strange that he is a sinner also. Very strange that he demanded over and over again that any in his congregation need to leave his church if they are living together, sinning. I am sure if he does get another church you will be front and center, sean milchan. They will know you by your fruits. Ephesians 5:11
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. I agree, Bob Coy had charisma in attracting people around him, not anointing.
People are human. We make mistakes. That is the reason God sent his son to die on the cross. Don’t get me wrong, I am not condoning bad behavior but what I am saying is that God forgave us through the blood that Jesus shed for our sins and the Bible clearly states that we are to forgive others just as our Father has forgiven us. It also says Judge ye not lest ye be judged… It is not my place or your place to judge anyone. Only God has that right. You do not know anything other than what was reported in the media and much of what the media puts out has a spin on it to get ratings. Did Pastor Coy make a mistake? He admitted that he did so that much we do know but to be unforgiving is not Christian like. Lee Ryan, I used to see Pastor Coy’s sermons weekly and I never once heard him tell people to get out if they were sinners. He said that they needed to stop sinning and do all for the glory of God and if we are not living to glorify Him we need to start but I never heard him say to get out if they were living wrong.
Michael, is it a Christian act to call people names? Also can you please name book, chapter and verse that tells us to judge others? In Matthew chapter 7 beginning in verse 1, it clearly states “Judge not that ye be not judged. 2 For what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4 Or how willt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold a beam is in thine own eye?” 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”
As Christians we should be lifting one another up, not judging each other and tearing each other down. May God bless all of you in all you do.
Leisa,
You are biblically illiterate.
Coy, did not “make a mistake”, he is a predator.
Repent.
āFor what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?God judges those outside. āPurge the evil person from among you.āā
(1 Corinthians 5:12ā13 ESV)
Yes, I agree with Michael, you are biblically illiterate. So, people, Leisa is calling me a liar. She is saying that am making this up. To what end. and for what purpose would I gain anything from that. LOL LOL . Who are you people. Once again the victims are being attacked and not the victimizer.
The Bibleās command that we not judge others does not mean we cannot show discernment. Immediately after Jesus says, āDo not judge,ā He says, āDo not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigsā (Matthew 7:6). A little later in the same sermon, He says, āWatch out for false prophets. . . . By their fruit you will recognize themā (verses 15ā16). How are we to discern who are the ādogsā and āpigsā and āfalse prophetsā unless we have the ability to make a judgment call on doctrines and deeds? Jesus is giving us permission to tell right from wrong.
Ryan, I would not call you a liar nor did I. What I said was that I saw his teachings many times and I personally never heard him say for sinners to get out. I heard him say that if we are not living to glorify God we need to look at what we are doing and change our lives so that we are glorifying him. I can not speak to anyone else’s interpretation of what they heard.
Michael, We are actually currently studying 1 Corinthians So if you go back to the beginning of the chapter; 1 Corinthians 5:1, “It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you and such fornication as is not so much as named among Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. ” So the context here is that they were taking Gentile law and saying that since the law says it’s ok, it must be ok so it’s fine if we do these things. Paul is telling the people of this church to stop doing these things in the name of Jesus because He does not approve and to stop hanging out with people who continue to do those things. And yes, verse 13 says “But them that are without God judgeth, therefore put away from yourselves that wicked person.”
I don’t focus on a preacher or teacher or even religion to guide me I focus on MY relationship with God and I do my best to be the best person I can be and I try to help people see the love of Jesus in all that I do because I feel that love, not hate is going to bring others to Jesus. I used to love remembering my favorite Bible verses and sharing those with people as we were discussing religion or things that are right or wrong but a few years back someone much wiser than I will ever be asked me if I had ever looked at the context in which that verse was meant and I had to say that I had not. All I had done was memorize a verse in Sunday School so since then I really try hard to take what the Bible says in context. Thank you for saying that I am Biblically literate but there is always room for growth and improvement. I guess the point that I really wanted to make is this. GOD knows what is in Bob’s heart. He did what he did and that is the past. If he truly repented and is sorry for what he did it is up to GOD to decide his fate. May God bless you all.
Our family Loved Pastor Bob as well. Never left Calvary without learning something from scripture.
He was a gifted teacher and God used him to bring many to salvation. And remember what God said in Isaiah 55:11 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.”
LOL LOL I loved listening to him too. Hey Leisa, Everyone heard bob coy saying get out of his church if they are living together. The 32 people in my group who left along with us heard it exactly like that. I am not delusional nor do i have hearing problems. I don’t talk for nothing. if I say something than it happened. You must be delusional for hearing what you want. We all sin. It was the hypocrisy of what he was saying and what he was doing. DUH Telling me I didn’t hear what i heard. You got alot of nerve. You ramble on and on not making any sense. So you are actually trying to turn this on us sinners in the church and not Bob Coy the sinner. LOL LOL Michael did not say you are biblically literate , he said you are biblically illiterate. Which is true. (saying that if we are not living to glorify God we need to look at what we are doing and change our lives so that we are glorifying him. I can not speak to anyone elseās interpretation of what they heard.) Leisa you are a moron. That cannot be translated into get out of my church if you are sinning. You need to get help. I suggest you do it right away.
I heard Bob Coy runs shipping company in Palm Beach. God can restore Bob because Bob had gave up on God. I cannot judge but for Godās mercy on behalf of Bob. He has a gift of preaching the word & he must choose to surrender himself to God. I was blessed by what he spoke & the words he gave me to bring to jail ministry.
Tony C
Go to scripture and look at what was on Solomon’s “headstone.”
Here’s a man whose story and ideas are part of what we all call the bible and yet observe what is said about him when he died.
1 Kings 11
The narrative tells a lot about how our relationship with God can go, something many of our “teachers” forget to remind us about.
Of course there’s also the modern adage, “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
Yes BC can return to God, but the he also has to face the consequences of his actions.
You all need to let BC go.
I was there for all the services…Bob said He struggled with sins. SO MANY thought he was the next coming of Christ and put him on huge mountain…..
That child stuff is BOGUS u better show me something to believe that crap NO WAY…
CAN YOU IMAGINE if Pastor Bob returned ?? I would say 10s of thousands of people would welcome him With Arms Wide Open and forgive him….I’ve turned my back on God and Christ and family have tried to get me back…BUT I will tell you there is on guy who I knew if he was on that pulpit preacher could MAYBE, break that stone around my heart Pastor Bob….
Yes, it does appear to be incongruous, that a sinner should be able to come back after such a fall. God forgave an adulterer and murderer ( remember someone named David?) Although the consequence of his actions stayed with him and his family for the rest of his life, David remaine useful to God. None of us can look into someone’s heart, only God can….so yes, God may yet let Bob Coy pastor a congregation again and yes, if Bob Coy screws up again, God will sort it out again, 70 times 7……
Once again, Randy perfectly illustrates the Biblical ignorance of most of the American Church.
For starters, David was a King in OT Israel, not a pastor, so you can’t use that. Look up the Biblical qualifications to be a pastor in the NT and get a clue. It is obvious to anyone other than the Bob Coy Kool-Aid Drinkers that Bob is not qualified.
Second, while got did forgive David, he still had to deal with the consequences:
1. Rebellion of his son, being overthrown, and on the lam as a result.
2. Death of his child who was the product of his adulterous union.
3. Strife never left his household.
4. Never being allowed by God to build the temple.
I am sure there are other people on this site can come up.
Randy Hernandez, Bob Coy is a child molester including manipulating and abusing the people closes to him. He was fired from a lay job as a manager of a music club once they saw the legal papers stating such. He should not be a pastor or a consultant of any church model. And should not be around children.
People seem to think a pastor has a God-given, or maybe constitutional, right to be a pastor. This does not apply to any other profession. A doctor or lawyer who is guilty of malpractice loses his licence. A pastor who sins against his congregation loses his qualification. You may forgive him if you wish- in fact, God commands that we forgive- but they do not have a “right” to be a pastor. Let them find another line of work and be glad they are not in jail, where some of them belong.
From my perspective Calvary Fort Lauderdale is thriving At this time, and accomplishing wonderful kingdom work. Yes, it was a hard time in 2014, and we still pray for Bob. Sure there needs to be accountability, and consequences are certain for all of us, whether in this life, or the next. However, why don’t we let God be the judge of that, and leave this topic alone. It seems like many here have made the scrutiny of Bob and Calvary Chapel thier own little idol.
Jesus is coming soon. Why don’t we all just commit to spend more time in intercessory prayer ????
“However, why donāt we let God be the judge of that,”
Because He told us to handle it.
“and leave this topic alone. ”
Why don’t you go away?
this “Phoenix preacher” is a very unpleasant person. incredibly nasty to people who disagree with him. hard cold vicious. people who follow this site as truth are just as mistaken as people who idolized a charismatic teacher. but I do not believe idolize is the right word for most, possibly for some. people really benefitted from his teaching. and if you think he was a motivational speaker, you are quite wrong, he was actually on the legalistic side, as others have noted. I moved from south florida in 2000 so do not know when things went so terribly wrong, but as others have noted, it was one wonderful place. so go ahead and ban me, as you boast of doing above, I could not care less.
My father was abused by a Catholic priest. I was abused by a protestant youth “pastor” who, at the end of his “ministry” and during a Sunday service, accused the lead pastor of sleeping with his wife then punched him in the face. I’ve been told by dozens of preachers when discussing the topic of abuse; “Ah, well, we all make mistakes.” I’ve seen MANY churches cover up abuse.
And people wonder why I despise the very idea of “church”, a name rooted in satan worship.
As a young man I probably attended 20 churches that all felt the same. Cold judge mental and distant. Until the day I went to Calvary chapel Fort Lauderdale. I felt welcome. I made friends I still have to this day. I got saved. For real got saved. Went on mission trips decided to go to school to be a pastor. Where is your accountability to all the churches that donāt welcome the strangers/foreigners as the Bible commands. The way Calvary dealt with Bob was really bad. They could have done much better they could have let him apologize at least. Tell his side of the story. I donāt think the allegations of the molestation is true since the girl wanted to retract her statement. From what I understand. His secretary was smoking hot ex-stripper from Vegas that he was doing a personal favor for a high-end member of the church to keep an eye on her and help her on the right track. Thatās a set up and everyone knows it. Thereās no man alive except for Jesus that could spend all his days and nights with a hot women half his age and not get a few ideas. She should have never been that close to him and the pastors and leaders around him should have seen it from a mile away. But thatās the story i heard and we were never told as a church what happened. Sin happens. Jesus doesnāt say we wonāt make mistakes. But he promises to reconcile us to Him and us to other people(when possible). I have never seen someone teach the Bible the way Bob did. He had the biggest target on his back for years and helped a lot of people find Christ. Heās gotten beat up for the Gospel. If I had half the target on my back Iād be homeless and at least I can be honest about that and not just bash a good man. To err is human to forgive divine.
And to be perfectly clear Iām not a mindless follower or an idolater. Bob messages did one thing and that was point to Jesus. I donāt know where I would be if I didnāt go to this church back then. The Bible says that itās right to give honor to those who deserve it. I will say if he comes back I would expect him to be squeaky clean. The truth is almost no pastor deserves to be up there. We all fall short of the glory of God.
NOT ANOTHER ONE. LOL LOL
I met Bob when he first arrived in south florida. My spiritual gift of dicernment was negative all the way. I also noticed he was cold and aloof towards anyone outside his inner circle.
Biblically Bob Coy is disqualified from boblical ministry and being a Pastor forever. Technically he was never even biblically qualified since he never attended seminary and failed the basic christian principle to “die to self” (luke 9:23).
The joke of the Calvary college he attended and the others did contain much error and is not biblical at all.
He was irresponsible, reckless and frankly proved himself to be a charlatan and an unbeliever with a constant pattern of habitual sin in his life (Roman 6:12, Heb 10:26,
2 Peter 2:20-22).
Calvary’s statement of faith is biblically very off and contains much error. The board of directors (not biblical) is a group of questionable business men with strong community ties (not biblical) and zero discernment and theological training.
(for the record biblical discernment is the ability to distinguish error from biblical truth).
When you start digging at the Chuck Smith / Calvary start up at the core, you will realize it is a fraud and demonic straight from the pits of hell. His books are frightening. He may profess Christ but Christ is not in him.
I’ll never forget the day a single group of ladies were sitting at that restaurant (not biblical -everthing on that property there is for sordid gain) and he made a mad dash to sit with them. A man was chasing him to ask him to autograph his bible. I know because I was sitting at that table and that’s when I started to notice things were realy really really off. It was such a confusing time for me, a new believer at the time. You sow what you reap (gal 6:7) Bob Coy.
His teaching and preaching started to decline and was more focused on tickling ears, jokes and self grandization. Never did the Holy Spirit convict him of sin because frankly, he wasnt his.
Praise be to God, that he pulled me out of that awful institution. I now attend a small traditional biblical reformed church where expository teaching is the norm. Sin is dealt with biblically. My pastor takes his call very seriously (james 3:1). There is true discipleship and accountability.
People make the comparison of the woman caught in adultery so here are a few observations reading the verse within context.
1) She was not saved. She had never professed nor confessed Christ.
2) She was not “called” to ministry.
3) She was sternly told “to go and sin no more”.
That would have been a better comparison to the Boy Coy 20 plus years ago running around Vegas and chasing showgirls. Not now. He knows truth and was willfully and cooperatively disobedient proving himself to be an unbeliever of Judas proportions. God exposes everything.
We are called to expose fraud teachers publicly.
You all need to repent of the “church” / counterfeit pastor idolatry.
Here is a link with good church recommendations:
https://www.9marks.org/church-search/
S,
That is a link to Reformed churches from Mark Devers group.
Mark Dever, who covered up for C.J. Mahaney…
Most here are not Reformed in theology…
Michael, if they dont then they are in error. My recommendation is to study the Bible minimally 8 hours a day for 3 months in isolation with zero distractions and beg God to reveal his truth. Certainly worked for me. Apply biblical exegesis, proper hermeneutic and a biblical concordance is key. Reformed theology is the purest form of truth. The whole calvary cult is a mess. There is not a single pastor on that hefty payroll equipped to teach expository.
A good textbook is Grasping Gods Word.
John MacArthur is an excellent Bible teacher is well worthy of his calling.
S,
I was Reformed for twenty years..and am no longer.
The Bible can “prove’ many things…
John MacArthur is a noxious Pharisee.
I would rather listen to cats in heat than another one of his sermons.
John MacArthur is a precious brother in Christ and faithful servant.
Truth is objective not subjective.
You sir have some serious issues and I’ll be praying for you.
The serious issue is when someone thinks his own sect is immune from those things that affect all sects.
Truth may be objective, but all Bible interpretation isn’t.
I’m not praying for you, but hopefully you’ll be exposed to other brethren who disagree without thinking divine intervention necessary.
Ok this funny was worth the digression into this weird conversation….
“Bob Coy is disqualified from boblical ministry and being a Pastor forever”
Then we are treated to a remedy for error that “Certainly worked for me”
The writer just confirmed his own authority by literary selfie.
I needed that.
Boblical Dread
some of us who are in the Reformed scene don’t agree that MacArthur is as great as his fans think he is.
Wenatchee,
Lemme guess, among other things, many reformed thinkers are uncomfortable with JMac’s relentlessly conspiratorial pretrib eschatology. Few things attract me about reformed thinkers more than their more presence of the kingdom eschatological leanings.
BD, yeah, between his conspiratorial and American centric take on pretrib eschatology and his vehemently anti-continuationist screeds there are folks within the Reformed traditions who regard MacArthur as having more bad than good on a few topics.
Having seen twenty some years of Mars Hill elapse the thing MacArthur fans are probably least open to hearing is that the JMac cult of admiration has been like a prototype of what was later happening with team Driscoll.
S
From what you wrote I believe there is a lot more for you to study. Isolation from all those who have gone before you really wonāt make you more knowledgeable about Godās word.
Also, JMac is not the end all in biblical interpretation.
Just saying
I believe what the bible say. Repent and be forgiven. I have forgiven him, but I don’t think he should be a pastor again. If he really does repent and walks away from it. Then I feel may, I said maybe he could be a door greeter or do some volunteer work for God, but not in ministries to the public. Remember Paul called out the church in Corinth for amorality behavior. That’s what a lot of us think and feel here in So. California. CC might eventually split into 2 factions. Who knows but God. So I will just keep reading the bible, praying and listening to what is said on the pulpit until there’s conflict with the teaching of the word of God. Even Greg Laurie says to do that. For apostates are already here working among us. Always think what would Jesus do. God bless e everyone in the New Year and New decade. ?
THIS WHOLE COLUMN IS TRASH & THIS GUY MICHAEL HAS NEVER SHOWN ANY PROOF JUST ACCUSATIONS, MOST DEMOCRATS DO THE SAME THING AND WHEN COMES WHICH NEVER DIES THERES NO PROOF
Shame on you all for all this gossip and slander! I am not a Calvary Chapel Member nor a Idol Worshipper of Bob Coy but I am a Spirit Filled Christian who felt many times in the spirit to pray for Bob Coy. I actually never met the man and only knew of him from employees I worked with that brought all this gossip into the workplace. Iād pretty much forgotten about Bob Coy until recently and felt in my spirit to pray for him again which is what brought me here. As Iād was reading my Bible and for the second time this past week came upon Galatians 6 which again the spirit brought to my heart to me to pray for Bob Coy. Gosh do you people even read your bible or do you just make you judgements based on your opinions of what you believe God should or should not do pertaining to sinful man! The audacity of you to even compare King David in the disrespectful way that you did questioning whom God should or should not have mercy on! Yes I read he molested a child and much more filth that has been spread all over South Florida. I mean seriously what the world is saying about the man is enough without āChristiansā for the last 6 years are still blogging about! I donāt know about you but Iām a sinner saved by grace and trust me not a day goes by that I donāt fall on my knees pleading for mercy in areas Iām still struggling with my own sinfulness of not loving the unlovely in people. Of not forgiving as quickly as I should, of being forgiven a million dollar debt but refuse to forgive a ten dollar offense from my neighbor. Jesus Christ says work out your own salvation. That means like Paul said we who live are being constantly experiencing death for Jesus that the death of Jesus Christ may be evidenced through the flesh. We are to die daily to the world. Calvary Chapel has not taught any of you about our responsibility to suffer loss in this world through hardships and loss. The narrow path is all about laying down your life for the brethren. Read the Saving life of Christ and the Mystery of Godliness by Ian Thomas. Read A.W. Tozerās The Pursuit Of God and Most definitely read THE CALVARY ROAD by Roy Hession. Than again if you arenāt interested in becoming who Christ has called you to be thatās your choice. But most of all pray for this man you are so filled with anger and hostility for. I actually felt like Bob Coy was going to commit suicide. Sounds like some of you would approve.
One of his victims did…make your own application.
I was intrigued reading every comment about this pastor but then when I got to this response by you, “MichaelM, you shut your ignorant, idolatrous mouth, imbecile. Howās that work for you?” You lost me. I stopped reading any further as it became quite apparent that you are not a Christian as your words and actions prove otherwise. What you did show is your lack of love and patience towards another human being just for voicing his/her opinion. Isn’t that the whole point of your comments section? You must be a very sad, angry lost person. I will pray for you, but I definitely will not click on your page again.
“I will pray for you, but I definitely will not click on your page again.”
Thank you. We weeded out the rest of the idiots already.
Bob coy was the best pastor they had now they have one that is not half as good
Michael, you need to use a different monicker…there is already a Michael here , and he doesn’t like fools using his name.
Perhaps you and Sandy can breed and have baby gerbils…
Speaking of Coy, anyone have any idea what that Elmer Gantry (to put it mildly) has been up since he got canned from the working at that night club?
I highly doubt God is reading through these comments with a smile. Disagreements are a good thing, but as Paul says, do it in love. Come on guys, let’s act and speak like someone who loves God. He’s real, and we will be judged by every idol word.
I was I. This blog over 12 years ago.
I attended CCFl with Coy from
97-2008 11 years.
I was very involved there and drank the Koolaid.
Dragged my kids every Wed and took them out of the pool on a beautiful sunny Saturday to get ā
Good seatsā there.
Totally legalistic. In fact some here called me
A legalist.
I havenāt been in this blog in 4 years but I finally understand grace.
Thereās a lot the host and probably I myself can say but we canāt make it public about Coy.
Letās just say I know a lot. And Iām convinced in my heart he was always a phoney
But my question is .. if he was saved, he was sealed and I am
One that believes you canāt lose your salvation.
So that really gives cause for thought:
By the way I found this
Post just as yo curiouslity about where he is and what he is doing.
Thankfully all abuse
From My CCFl days are erased
From My memories but I had many many bad years after leaving. And this was before he fell.
I was also on CC abuse of others Alex and it was interesting when this all came down, who came in to defend him.
The area he lives is not the Miracle Mile btw itās the Hillsborough Mile.
He was able to gain lots of properties And real estate on the church funds and is an extremely wealthy man.
People
Do not know that leadership there knew what was going on years before and no one wanted to risk
Their jobs to do the right thing yet the people are still there.
I was saved in 1997 ( or so I thought ) there, and those years looking back are the worst in my life and the lives of my family.
Basically due to bad doctrine.
Btw he didnāt write his sermons.
PS the comments here in support of this man are nauseating bc it reveals the utter blindness of those who followed him… I was one for
Many years. The Christianese, the ā we are all sinnersā, etc. The ā
Allegedāpedophilia doesnāt even bother them.
I remember there was a situation where A boy was ā allegedly āMolested in another state who was under the care of someone who taught in Sunday school.
The only reason why it wasnāt announced is bc Bob was āin āwith the editor at the Sentinel, ( who attended CCFl and I believe died of cancer ,And bc it didnāt happen in Florida. There was never an article when he fell.. the New Times, a local free newspaper left in stores and out in bins reported in.
For many years after I left, I would run into CCites as I called them
And they are a special breed bc no matter what you tellThem .:.It all fails on deaf ears.
They just wonāt hear…
“They just wonāt hearā¦”
Some will…
“Thereās a lot the host and probably I myself can say but we canāt make it public about Coy.”
Yes, there is…
Yes some will. I did. And after
Many years some have told me what I told them years back is true.
I just think the place would have fallen flat if everyone left and stopped supporting the church.
People who leave to another state only go to another Calvary. In that sense itās very cultish.
I pretty much left all the Calvary stuff behind and it left my kids wanting nothing to do with God bc of their own awful experiences there.
He wrote a testimony that was published and in it he stated he wanted to be a millionaire by the time he was 30.
Seems he got his wish.
SFloridian, Good to know you are doing good and moved on. We too have moved on with many lessons learned. And thanks to Phoenix Preacher, and CCAbuse we were able to put together pieces of the puzzle of what we knew through our hearts didnt seem right. It was eye opening when I prayed and found the courage to ask past pastors how much did the pastors know? And I was floored to hear they knew. Sadly this story bled over into others in many ways. And it is mind boggling to wonder how it still survives with so much blantant coverup and how far it reached. Now I wonder how people still attend. Funny, now the people who we sat with for years, opened up to about our happiest times and hardest times, prayed and laboured with, now they just walk past us in town as if we never knew each other. Gotta wonder what this church is about. Bc Christian people dont just walked past people that may have left the church but I believe a cult does. We do so now with our heads held high, and smile. Just hope Bob does not come back into pastor life again.
Didn’t God use a donkey? We all fall short! Hey I understand he fell off a cliff, hit every ugly branch on the way down!! But no matter what he is forgiven! Wether south Florida church businesses like it or not.
My thing is, I’m from Orlando. I listened to him on TV or radio every Sunday. I got some really good messages from him! So did my kids.
It hurt me that he did what he did. But he is a good teacher. God will deal with that. Hey God’s in control!!
Cheryl,
Just because God used a talking jacka*s to get his message out, does’t mean that talking jacka*s should be a pastor (or he should be hired as one).
Cheryl Smith
Iād ask you how on earth any man can be a ā good teacherā if he is a serial adulterer? And alleged pedophile?
Your comments reveal you have not really spent much time in the scriptures.
He is forgiven only if he repents and shows the fruits of repentance.
Iām going to say some thing that may not be well received from many on this blog. I think the main problem with Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale is how they attempted to deal with sin. They used Matthew 18 as a guideline which I donāt believe even really applies To the church today. If you saw someone in sin and you went to them and tried to discuss it with them and they were a salaried employee of the church would they not apologize to you? Of course they would all the while continuing whatever said they were involved in. My opinion is that Matthew 18 is not the way to deal with sin individually but thatās just my opinion.
Matthew 18 is the way they dealt with everything going on in both the church and the school
We don’t really know for certain which Christian has confessed to God and been forgiven, but Xenia is correct that we should see good fruit…. IMHO
I always enjoyed the messages that Bob spoke. I dont idolize people..All of us have sinned and fall short. If Bob repents, shows fruit, is restored, then I will join heaven in welcoming him back. Jesus never turns his back on us. He is always there to forgive.
So…you want a pastor accused of child molestation whose mistress committed suicide.
Better you than me…but itāll never happen while I live.
I had no idea his mistress committed suicide. So sorry to hear that. Where was it that you got that from.
I actually did the research. I will not say anything more out of respect for her friends and family who still grieve years later.
Wasn’t asking for her name. Since you have an accusation of it, then you need to back it with proof.
Out of no where, after so many years, I have been called upon to pray for Pastor Bob. I used to follow his messages on the Internet and enjoyed his sermons. Never knew him, didn’t even recall his last name, but googled him and found him. So Lord, I don’t know what to pray for him, but Holy Spirit, You do. So I ask You, Holy Spirit, to whisper Bob’s name in God’s ear and ask the Father to remember him. He knows Bob’s needs and loves him as He loves all of His children.
Hopefully, you’re either praying for prosecution or impotence…
Galatians 6:1, “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such a one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.”
I doubt that Bob will ever become a pastor again. Furthermore, I don’t know Bob, his walk may have been a sham all along but that’s not for anyone to say.
However, this should be about following the word of God in obedience because our indifference to Bob’s plight rightly places us in the same boat: ” lest thou also be tempted.” And we know that Christ gave his life for Bob and that’s nothing to take lightly.
We look at the current age with horror and amazement of rapid destruction of peopleās lives brought about by “cancel culture” yet all the while denying that it’s roots stem from the church. Paul addressed this in his second letter to the Corinthians:
2 Corinthians 2:6 & 7: This punishment which was inflicted by the majority is sufficient for such a man, so that, on the contrary, you ought rather to forgive and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one be swallowed up with too much sorrow.
If Paul implored the Church to restore a repentant man caught in a relationship with his mother-in-law because his sorrow was too much to bear, how much more are the sorrows of a man whoās actions lead to the destruction of a church, the end of his family and a girl’s suicide?
You be the judgeā¦ but don’t judge too harshly because the same rule you use will be used against you. Have a heart and pray for this man. Heās only a man. God Bless
Bob Coy should go to Hell. We all should.
I’ve read all but the last one saying Bob should go to hell and we all should is most disturbing.. This is a Christian?
Look within please..
I still think god has his hands on Bob Coy. When I think of Bob Coy I think of several Biblical heroās. Jona, David, Solomon,Etcā¦. I hope Bob Coy submits to God again I really do. The enemy is powerful and he/ it only goes after Gods strongest. David had Bathshebaās husband murdered and the child molester none sense donāt work for me. Pray for Pastor Bob Coyā¦ he needed our support long before this all happened. Canāt believe we hang him out to dry based on rumors and a sin. He is not the Lord and never claimed to be. Throw the first stoneā¦
If God has His hands on Coy, they are around his skinny little neck.
The child molester “nonsense” is why he won’t ever raise his head again…there is proof.
I attended CCftl for a few years (1997-2000) but witnessed many disturbing things. I won’t list them all, but I do want to mention one part of the story that has been lost.
If you are familiar with Bob Coy’s often-told conversion story where his brother Jim helped him turn to Jesus and away from his like as a Vegas strip club manager… well, I think in the year 1999 Pastor Jim, who at the time was the second pastor and in charge of marriage counseling, was abruptly removed. Pastor Bob explained that Jim, who was married, was having an affair with the wife of a man he was counseling. Pastor Bob then warned the congregation that if anyone was heard speaking of this again, they would be kicked out of the church.
In true CC tradition, Chuck Smith allowed Jim Coy to relocate and start again, this time in Murphy, NC. He recently passed away.
I love Bob Coy he has blessed me with many wonderful sermons. Heās got his flaws like we all do. God said king David was a man after His own heart. He was a murderer and adulterer, so thereās hope for the sinner as long as we repent and trust in Jesus Christ. God Bless you all.
You can afford to love Bob Coy…it’s not your family he destroyed or your child he damaged.
You don’t know him at all in reality…he’s simply an idol that made you feel better about yourself.
If only you loved his victims and the church he blighted as much as you love yourself…
Such a good teacher – Check
We’re all flawed – Check
King David the adulterer and murderer – Check
Hope (or grace) for the sinner – Check
God’s anointed – Missed
4 out of 5 is pretty good
Kevin H
You forgot “Cast the first stone”…
Darn, I did.
4 out of 6 isn’t quite as good as 4 out of 5.
who the hell is Bob Coy?
Kevin
I think you could add āplagiaristā to the list.
Years ago, I was asked by my boss (pastor) to schedule Bob to come to Oregon to speak. After several failed attempts to contact him, he called me saying his schedule wouldnāt allow it. But he went on to say āyou wouldnāt want me any way. I just preach reworked Courson sermonsā.
But then again, what pastor doesnāt plagiarize a little. I mean there was only one original thinker and that was Adam!
I visited a fellow pastor in Southern California. He was preparing a message for his midweek service. He was transcribing from cassette, a Courson studyāword for word. This piqued my interest so I went to his website to listen to a few other sermons. They were exact word for word transcriptions of Jonās messages. The only thing that changed were the names of his children and where he age his hamburgers!
C’mon Hoppy, that would then make it 4 out of 7, a failing grade. I was trying to give “Sinner” some credit. š
Would anybody here go to a church with King David as pastor?
I mean, beside the fact that he’s a skeleton.
A skeleton in the pulpit would be kind of creepy. I think I’ll pass.
What if he is a great teacher?
JtheB
Good question. I probably would but I wouldnāt go to Coyās. I guess that make me a hypocrite!
Although David continued to serve the Lord invite of his failure. Whereas,I think Bob is managing a bar or something.
For me, failure isnāt the big issue but contrition is.
Donāt ask these kind of questions!@ :-). They upset my nice clean and streamlined theology!
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I would not go to a church where King David is the Pastor, nor do I think he would attempt to pastor a church.
He may have been a great King, but was not qualified to be a pastor.
it’s as though everyone who trots out David the adulterer and murderer skips the part where he stayed back and delegated the fighting to Joab for a war he probably never should have started to begin with. I’ve heard sermons where it was pointed out that had David gone to fight the war he started himself in person he wouldn’t have been home to see Bathsheba. Likely … but the more I consider the larger narrative the more it seems David went off the rails fighting a war for personal pride rather than the benefit of the people in starting that war at all.
And he still took that disastrous census at the end of his life and was suckered into installing Solomon. People who invoke David apologetics for celebrity preachers don’t seem to understand just how bad a man David was. And, per others here, he was not a pastor.
A lot of pastors are more like Jehu or Omri than David these days anyway if we want to compare contemporary pastors in the US to kings in the biblical narrative books
Well Coy got married
His 67 to her 45
Google the lovely registry for them.
Nice photo.
And heās a VP of a roofing company now.
Always a great business in Florida
The marriage was presided over by another predator…birds of a feather…
tulian?
Quite narcissistic to register on ā the knotā
As a 67 year old. He just canāt stop self promoting.