Every Time…: KevinH

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  1. Tired of this says:

    Every column you write is partisan, filled with hate. Stop this harangue or, at least, keep them to yourself. We have just 2 choices in the election and voting Trump is nothing more than the best choice of 2 poor choices. It doesn‚Äôt mean we think he is righteous or that we are exposing nationalism. It just means he is better than the other evil‚ÄĒby far. Try to find something else to write about.

  2. prodinov says:

    Ouch! I found no hatred but good food for the soul in terms of how Kevin continues to portray the current political environment. Then I read the first comment and was amazed that others would take the wise words so problematic. I did not find Kevin taking sides but instead pointing out what he has done previously. A divided country. 2 potential leaders with major faults. Fortunately, even with 2 choices, we have local elections, representatives, and senators who can and should take positions representing their constituents. We are not a dictator county. Kevin, I can only state even if I disagreed with your wording, which I don’t, I find you thoughtful, concerned, and well spoken. While the coming election might seem doomed, and 2 leaders that we grapple with in terms of qualifications, the end result is we the people can and will find a way to move forward and remain optimistic that elections will do what they were meant to do…and find us leaders willing to take positions for the good of the next generation.

  3. Kevin H says:

    Thank you, prodinov.

    Sadly, but ironically, some aptly demonstrate and validate the very things I write about when they choose to comment….. most especially my tag line about partisan politics being poison to the soul.

  4. bob1 says:

    What Prodinov said.

    Well done, Kevin.

  5. Kevin H says:

    Tired of this,

    I will stop writing about such things when such things stop happening with such great frequency.

    Until then, for their own sake and for the sake of the witness of Jesus Christ to the world by the Church, I will continue to exhort Christians to repent of the sinful ways they have enacted in their ruinous embrace of partisan politics.

  6. Kevin H says:

    Thank you, bob1.

  7. Reuben says:

    Weird how these days, we agree on a lot of stuff, Kevin.

  8. Dan from Georgia says:

    Kevin et al…A few days ago The Christian Post ran an article about how God calls us to care for the refugee. And wouldn’t you know it, the usual “conservatives” came out in droves to basically say “who is the refugee?”

    Sound familiar anyone?

    Probably sounded too “woke”

  9. Dan from Georgia says:

    and by the way Kevin…KEEP writing about these things. You are obviously convicting some people!

  10. Jean says:

    Tired of this,
    Your comment was partisan.

    You say that your candidate is less evil than the incumbent, but that is just your opinion. My recollection of the 4 year Trump presidency is that it was awful. My experience of the most recent 4 years is one of national resilience and prosperity.

    I would never say that everything is perfect, and I recognize that everyone’s situation is different, but I won’t deny that the economy today is incredibly strong, jobs are plentiful, America is still the leader of the free world.

    I can’t imagine what Trump would do to make the lives of the middle class and working poor any better. Take away their healthcare? Degrade their public schools? Put more (and more lethal) weapons on the streets? Cause civil unrest? Normalize bigotry and racism? Tear down international coalitions? Prop up dictators? Disenfranchise legal voters at home?

  11. Captain Kevin says:

    Tired of this,
    If you’re so tired of this, why do you read here? What’s the point of telling a main author of a blog to find something else to write about? Find a different blog to read.

  12. Kevin H says:

    Thanks, Dan.

  13. Xenia says:

    Every time Kevin writes an article, it’s pretty much the same thing. I get it Kevin, you hold most Evangelical Christians in disdain. I am rather fond of them but that’s just me.

    But I like Kevin and he’s a good writer, even if I don’t always agree with him in the details he does see the big picture. I did think I have a dim memory of Michael saying he didn’t want the PhxP to harp on politics- maybe I only dreamed he wrote that? who knows. (Seriously, does anyone remember?) but I see that this dictum (if he really said that?) only applies to certain opinions and not others BUT it’s his blog and he’s entitled to encourage whatever discourse he wants as he’s the one who pays the bills around here.

    May God have mercy on Michael and his mother.

  14. Kevin H says:

    Reuben,

    If I spent more time writing about things I believe to be wrong or have difficulty with on the left side of politics or the left side of the church, I’m sure we’d have some disagreement. However, I have many times over here made myself clear that, that is not my focus. Rather, I keep my focus much more within my own, and that would be with theologically conservative evangelicals, and we can agree there are plenty of problems there. We would actually have disagreement in the realm of theology, but in the realm of behavior, sadly, there are far too many things we mutually identify as bad.

  15. Xenia says:

    Maybe I just don’t see it. I do not follow any Evangelical (or Protestant, for that matter) preachers on social media so I don’t hear what they are saying. I still have plenty of Evangelical friends and they are not saying any of the things that upset the folks here, although I am pretty sure some will be voting for Trump BUT to tell you the truth, most of them think he is a despicable person. At my own parish probably half the people are not even Americans and the other half (with one exception) never discuss politics although l suspect many will vote for Trump, reluctantly. There are no Biden enthusiasts among my friends, although there are some among my relatives and we maintain radio silence on politics for the benefit of family harmony. So I never hear what’s bothering many people. Maybe I choose my social media contacts differently than some; same with friends. As to relatives, what can you do? But on the whole, I am fond of Evangelicals and if they disappeared there would not be many Christians left in this country.

  16. Kevin H says:

    Xenia,

    My writing is pretty much the same thing because the bad behaviors of many evangelicals remains pretty much the same thing, if not even growing worse.

    I do take issue with you saying that I hold *most* Evangelical Christians in disdain. My writings are aimed toward those who exhibit these behaviors which have become very prominent in conservative evangelical Christianity. However, I have also pointed out a good many times that there are many evangelicals and other Christians who avoid these behaviors and commend them for their faithfulness. The difficulty is that the bad actors are typically louder and gain more attention and have had outsized influence over the Church in recent years, and although I don’t return their bombast with bombast, I do believe that it takes a firm, candid resoluteness to stand against their immorality and let others know (including others in the church) that this is not the way of Jesus.

    As for the harping on politics, it was Michael’s desire to minimize such here on the blog for a few years. However, several months ago Michael reached out to me and expressed that he now thought it was more important to speak truth to these matters, even if that upset the “keeping of the peace”.

    At the very least, you will notice that my writings next to never advocate for any politician, political party, or political policy, but rather speak to the ways that Christians are conducting themselves within politics. Ultimately, politics are not the focus but only the backdrop. Rather, the focus is on calling Christians to faithfulness to Christ.

  17. Kevin H says:

    Xenia,

    All of these things I write, I have and continue to see and experience on a regular basis. Whether it is in personal interactions, in my social media, in witnessing of church leaders speaking in the pulpit, or in reading about prominent Christian leaders committing such behavior, it has been a regular experience for me. And being that evangelical Christians as a whole have gained such a reputation of divisiveness and hypocriticalness in our culture over the past 9 or 10 years, I believe I am speaking to issues which are very pervasive and widespread.

  18. Janet Linn,BrideofChrist says:

    It sounds as if Xenia attends a great church! I had to leave a Calvary Chapel for all of the reasons in Kevin’s article above. I live in Southern California and there are as many CC churches around here as there are Starbucks coffee shops. The church we attend now is more like Xenia’s church. They don’t hate the local public schools and talking about politics is frowned upon. It should be like that ever where – less hate and more love.

  19. The New Victor says:

    What’s scary is that in a country where we love to point out so many HOA horror stories, the smallest unit of authoritative overreach and abuse, that many on multiple sides wish for someone akin to a Caudillo as POTUS.

  20. Reuben says:

    Get lost DH

  21. Kevin H says:

    DH,

    If Michael were able to be here right now, you’d probably be banned. For now, your profane comments have been removed.

  22. R'as al Ghul says:

    Kevin H,

    It is very easy to criticize the policies, character, sins, etc. of politicians one does not agree with. Standing up for one’s principles when faced with the glaring character flaws, policy errors, etc. of your erstwhile allies and ones you supposedly agree with is much more difficult.

    As most of you are aware, in 1998 the SBC and other evangelical groups and leaders put out statements about “character counts” in wake of the Lewinsky scandal. Fast forward to Trump. Trump’s character issues before, during, and after his term as POTUS are glaringly obvious. However when conservatives (either Christian or not) like Jonah Goldberg, David French and others pointed this out, they were attacked, bullied, and ostracized. And the same evangelicals who rightly criticized Clinton’s character not only ignored the character issues of Trump, but worse, defended Trump, minimized them, and attacked those who DARED to point them out. The fact that 81% of Evangelicals went in on this says a lot.

    I seem to remember that Jesus did not go after the godless Roman soldiers and other outside his “group”, but rather his erstwhile allies and members of his own group., pointing out their hypocrisy and such.

  23. Kevin H says:

    So true, R’as al Ghul.

  24. R'as al Ghul says:

    Dan @ your 9:12 AM,

    “Who is the refugee?”

    Eerily similar to another question when a “conservative” expert asked a certain rabbi from Nazareth as mentioned in the Gospel of Luke.

    As an aside, when forced to give the answer to the parable, that expert’s distaste, prejudice, and contempt for the Samaritan was evident when he could not even call him that. He referred to the Samaritan as “the one who had mercy on him.”

  25. R'as al Ghul says:

    And as for the comments by Tired of This and others, I will point out that voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil. Of course, they will say I am a leftist, libtard, proggie, etc. But I shall point out that I have not voted for either an R or D for POTUS since 2004. Ever since then, it has been either 3rd party or write-in. I would rather stick to my principles.

  26. Muff Potter says:

    There’s a reason why our elders (in the general sense, not the church meaning) said to avoid religion and politics in polite company.

  27. Dan from Georgia says:

    R’as…

    Exactly. Refugee = victim on the side of the road. And so-called conservatives continue to this day to step over them or go to the other side.

    Your other posting I can relate to. Seems no one talks about voting according to your conscience. That is one reason I refused to vote for Trump or Clinton in 2016.

  28. Rob Murphy says:

    My experience has been that 1 Thess. 5.22 “Stay away from every kind of evil”, is now super controversial… in the church. Especially the ‘lesser of two’.
    Our church has seen a massive departure – mostly from leadership – as we teach this. Quoting Jerry Garcia, who said “Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.” didn’t / doesn’t seem to help.
    Jerry Garcia accidentally has greater spiritual authority than thousands of pastors and churches.
    Deception is pernicious, as it’s never me who’s deceived.

  29. Kevin H says:

    Rob,

    What you have done is admirable and to be lauded. You are also paying the price for deciding to choose no evil, which makes it all the more admirable.

  30. Linn says:

    KevinH,

    This was a excellent post. I have promised myself for this election that I will keep most of my thoughts to myself (I see error on both sides, refuse to vote for Mr. T based on my own principles, very dubious of current POTUS, but if I don’t vote for him, we’re probably stuck with the other guy) and I will pray a lot for a peaceful outcome. My church went through the wringer on the 2020 election (we have never-Trumpers, life-long Dems, Republicans who may really believe God is a Republican, too), and our elders decided to cool it on a) political statements from the pulpit from our senior pastor, and b) any signs of politicking in the church itself. We also had a stern lecture on the appropriate use of social media as there were some nasty dust-ups with different factions in the congregation. We lost some people over it, but the vibe is much more positive and we are attracting lots of different people from our surrounding community, which is no longer majority white. My once all-white Sunday School class of 4s is now 1/2 white and 1/2 Hispanic, Asian, and African-American. The Hispanic congregation (of which I am a part-former missionary with deep ties to the local Latino community) has almost doubled in size in the past 18 months.

    All that to say, that targeted action by church leadership could help keep chaos in check. People still talk politics (I have a couple friends that I can disagree with in a kind way, and often we give each other things to think about), but the Facebook frontal attacks, the arguments about why we no longer have an American flag behind the pulpit, and host “illegals” in the Spanish congregation are pretty much gone. We are acting more like a community-minded church that serves the people in our neighborhood. That makes me happy, and I continue to pray that the fragile peace will hold until after the election.

  31. Kevin H says:

    Thank you, Linn.

  32. Rob Murphy says:

    Hey, Kevin, if you have a minute, I’d like to drop you a note email wise if that’s ok with you, my email is murphspeak@hotmail.com

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