The End of Roe v. Wade: Kevin H.

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16 Responses

  1. Steve says:

    Good post Kevin.

    With that said “The acceptance, advocacy for, and enactment of abortion I believe is one of the greatest horrific evils in this country’s history.”

    Does the reversal of Roe vs. Wade make this one of the greatest turning points in our country’s history? I think it does even though I agree with you that it probably won’t change the number of abortions in our country. It might though. I hope so.

  2. Kevin H says:

    Steve,

    I don’t think the reversal is a big turning point as it hasn’t changed people’s opinions or hearts, and like I said, I don’t foresee a big reduction in abortions because of it. I think more than likely, if it comes that people become considerably more anti-abortion in this country and the amount of abortions significantly reduce, it will be much more of a gradual happening than any one moment or event that we will be able to point to.

  3. Em says:

    Amen, Kevin, amen

  4. Em says:

    Jeremiah 8:12

  5. Officehoppy says:

    Yeah, my guess is SCOTUS is going to hand to the states the right to abort or not. In other words, the SCOTUS decision will not stop abortion. And even in states where it becomes illegal, they will still continue but in back alleys.

  6. Kevin H says:

    Officerhoppy,

    I don’t think there will be that many back alley abortions. Rather, I think we will see two things happen: 1) Women will travel to states where they can receive an abortion and this will be multiplied by politically driven initiatives to promote and provide transportation for women to do so, and 2) even as the abortion pill will be outlawed by states outlawing abortion, people will find ways to get it, distribute it, and use it within their states.

  7. Steve says:

    Kevin, I know this is basically anathema to say this here, but I believe it and will say it anyway. Trump did exactly what he promised to put SCOTUS justices on the bench that would over turn the Roe vs. Wade atrocity. I will never regret voting for Trump for this reason alone. I didn’t vote for Trump with any kind of illusion he would change people’s hearts, I voted for him that he would advocate for policy that I could most agree with. Thank you Trump. Only the Spirit can change hearts.

  8. Michael says:

    If you don’t change hearts, this will only forestall the return of on demand abortion for a while.

    Prohibitions on previously accepted practices don’t work in the long run…

    It may be noted too that the basis on which Roe will be overturned may open a bigger can of worms than desired…

  9. Kevin H says:

    Steve,

    I don’t think it is anathema here to say that Trump did what he promised in appointing conservative justices to the Court that would overturn Roe v. Wade if given the opportunity to do so. I am even thankful myself for this circumstance.

    The difficulty becomes when Christians ignore, justify, support, and even replicate so many of the wrongdoings of Trump, all in the name of defeating abortion or achieving other desired ends. But I do not want this posting to get sidetracked about all things Trump, as this can so easily happen, and so I do not want to say further about the man.

  10. Muff Potter says:

    I am staunchly anti-abortion.
    But I am also a staunch advocate for safe and effective methods of contraception, up to and including vasectomies.
    But when this angle is brought up amongst evangelicals, the only sound you’ll hear is crickets.

  11. Eric says:

    One significant piece of good news of course is that the US abortion rate has been declining for about my whole lifetime.

    Other notable stats I’ve seen show the abortion rates are higher in the ‘red’ states, so the loudest pro-choice voices are in states where that choice is made less often. And other western countries, where the Church has declined the more than the US, tend to have lower rates than the US.

    As an outsider it looks ridiculous the way your Supreme Court is political. Over here, most people can’t name any of the High Court judges. The federal & state parliaments make the rules and only occasionally the High Court sees something they find unconstitutional. Our Constitution was written a century later than yours and there seems to be less scope to argue about what it means – about the most well-known case was a fictional one from a movie.

  12. Duane Arnold says:

    Kevin

    Relevant to this post is an interview with Kristin Du Mez, a professor at Calvin University and a historian of American Christianity. She wrote the book “Jesus and John Wayne”. In the interview she traces the Evangelical view of abortion over the course of decades.
    https://youtu.be/whV8heFHXoQ

  13. Steve says:

    I predict eventually the entire abortion discussion will shift to the rights of the badly and have little to do with the fundamental rights of the women in the near future. I believe this will happen because of scientific advancements. Artificial wombs are being developed that can bring a baby to term without the mother. We can discuss the ethics of this, but when this becomes a reality which I believe it will, the debate will shift.

  14. Steve says:

    Correction. Rights of baby not badly

  15. Kevin H says:

    Duane,

    Thanks for the link. I’ll try to give it a listen when I have some more time.

    Without having listened to the interview yet nor having read her book, I do know that before 1980, conservative evangelical opposition to abortion wasn’t commonplace and some even supported it.

  16. Ruben Ilagan says:

    I think that the generations following the baby boomers have had years to weigh the ethics and morality if abortion and most have found it to be wrong. This was fostered in an environment where political pressure on this issue was waning. Now that it has been brought to the forefront by zealots in the right it might actually work against decreasing abortions and reverting attitudes back towards hostility and support for taking preborn lives. It’s sad, there must be a better way.

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