Lindell Savages Driscoll

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  1. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    had to muster the willpower for this one

    I’ve been thinking of Judges 9:19-20 lately.

  2. Alan says:

    Thank you Michael.

    We have so many wolves.

  3. Michael says:


    It doesn’t matter what we write…but you’ve made an incredible record for those who care.

  4. Michael says:


    I wish the Lord had used a different metaphor than a wolf…wolves are actually noble and moral in their own way.

    This people are neither…

  5. Linn says:

    I don’t understand why anyone listens to either of them, but we are so entertainer motivated in the faith, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

  6. Reuben says:

    Yeah, I don’t either, Lynn.

  7. pstrmike says:

    Let ‘em slug it out. By their own words, they make themselves out to be fools.

  8. Pineapple Head says:

    What a circus. Clowns to the left, jokers to the right.

  9. Pineapple Head says:

    Bottom line, these are not humble men.

  10. Pineapple Head says:

    Last thought. Why does all of this remind me of WWE?

  11. Alan says:

    Raise a lament. This is not the church of the New Testament. These are not the apostles of Jesus. Nothing remotely resembles early christendom. Nothing of the fragrance of Christ or the cost of following him unto death. It was not hard to co-opt the church the serpent only had to keep telling us that we will be like gods.

    Yes Pineapple Head — wrestling bloviating is the right imagery.

  12. Adam says:

    All of this is so disgusting, and it would almost be funny except for the fact that this guy seems so incredibly surprised by Driscoll’s behavior… as though Driscoll didn’t already have a proven and documented track record. Maybe next time don’t “defend” (his words) proven abusers and/or work to re-platform them. You reap what you sow. You knew Driscoll was bad fruit, but you defended him hoping it would benefit you, and now it’s biting you in the ass. Congratulations. No sympathy here.

  13. Reuben says:

    PineappleHead, Circus is right. Couldn’t even watch half of either video. Looks like posturing politicians.

  14. Josh says:

    I found this whole thing incredibly entertaining. And hilarious.

    Like Driscoll, of all people, coming and doing the pious “I’ve been praying for your Jezebel spirit”, is next-level comedy.

    Feeling like you need to book a shirtless, sword swallowing act at a men’s conference is hilarious. Being surprised that you got called out on it is double hilarious. Dealing with Driscoll and being shocked that he turns on you is putting your head in the toilet and giving yourself a swirlie.

    This is how I know I’m no longer a part of this. I don’t feel any sadness or shame. This is just really, really funny.

  15. Michael says:

    My lament is that the place never emptied despite all the reasons why it should have.

    This is not Christianity despite the invocation of sacred Scripture.

    It is the fruit of generations of abysmal teaching without true discipleship.

  16. Josh says:

    I mean, its no weirder than the KC prophets meetings in the 90’s. This is what Christians do for entertainment. To some degree, we always have. Inviting a clown like Driscoll makes the circus complete, and he know how to create controversy to bring attention. Mission accomplished.

    If you were hoping for something like historic christianity or bible -teaching, you didn’t even know this conference was taking place.

  17. Michael says:

    I’m a bit oversensitive to this filth at the moment.

    I’m moving next month and have no idea how the hell I’m going to afford to do so.
    I’m leaving thirty plus years in the same place.

    I know how I could afford it if I’d played my cards right…I would have gone to hell for it, but it would have made old age more comfortable.

    All I would have needed was to ride the right wing wave that started back in about 2014 and rode hell out of right through Trump to the present time.

    Write damnable lies about immigrants, mock anyone but white evangelicals, spend part of every day blasting away at the “enemies” of Christendom just like I splayed corrupt preachers…and I would be retiring with grace and many fat cats.

    Evangelicals will pay for what they love…one prominent “pastor” of my acquaintance that nobody had ever heard of before he turned hard into politics had to hire a second person just to count all the money flooding into his church circa 2020…

    The church we see in this video cares nothing about the faith once delivered…but it’s packed and those screens cost more than I will make in a lifetime.

    There are days when my contempt for all involved in these messes overwhelms me…today is one of those days.

  18. Michael says:

    Just so no one thinks I only pick on evangelicals…

    The numbers are in for the Anglican community and we can almost chart a date when it will no longer exist.

    The Anglican elite sold their souls to wear a rainbow flag…leaving orthodox Christianity as radically as right wing evangelicals, just in the opposite direction.

    They are contemptible, stupid, and perverse…I’d just moved in and they burned the freaking house down.

    Someday, someone, will have an epiphany that extremes in either direction destroy themselves and everything in the middle…ecclesiastically and politically.

    I think I actually loathe progressives more…at least right wingers bathe and don’t have to look in their pants to know what sex they are…or maybe they should.

    End of rants.

  19. pstrmike says:

    When I think about some of the stuff, I can’t find it entertaining at all. When I get too engrossed in it, I realize I need to start reading better books and being around a better circle of people. It really isn’t anything worthy of our attention.

  20. Reuben says:

    Promise Keepers was the first “men’s retreat” I ever went to. James Ryle was a featured speaker. I won’t go into the history of that guy, but he was pretty much the reason I went. It was in a stadium in Boulder, about 5 minutes from where I am staying now. The testosterone could be cut with a knife. I was not all that impressed even back then.

    I guess the silver lining in the little I could tolerate to watch is that the crowd sure got smaller. There were no swords swallowed. The music was ok.

  21. Lynne says:

    So gross. What a clown show.

  22. Linn says:

    I attended a large trade-marked women’s conference a few times in the early ‘0s. It was pretty good the first two times, but then it got weird with jokes about sexuality and homemaking, not to mention the “sorrow” of singleness (I have been single my entire adult life).. Plus, there was all the pressure to join the book club, buy the tote bag, sign up your friends, etc. I stopped going and was a bit appalled that my church thought it was one of the most spiritual things they could offer us. We do our own retreats now with solid speakers and topics that are helpful to, from what I can tell, most of the women in our church.

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