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  1. Way back in 1993 Jack Hayford of “Church On The Way” gave each member of his congregation $100.00.

    A month later they all came back to give testimony of how they had increased it to give back.

    I don’t quite recollect the cause or reason at the moment.

    Whoa first?

  2. “My third thought is that the divisions among us are deep and evil…and the church can and should take the lead in fostering dialog and seeking solutions.”

    I don’t think so. This is what brought on the advent (good seasonal word) of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton many years ago … and to not get too divisive here, I think are the cause of much of the problems.

    And what do you mean by “church”? – just Christians? All religious groups, New Agers? Can the Imans be helpful here? What is the common message besides ‘don’t kill each other’/

    Now, this does not mean that ‘churched’ individuals can’t do something productive … but THE church?

  3. Michael says:


    I still harbor the illusion of a catholic church that follows Jesus and has something to offer the society it resides in.

  4. Nonnie says:

    I’m with Michael’s number 3. Isn’t our task at hand to be living out God’s will, here on earth, as it is in heaven? To love God and our neighbors, to do justly, and to love mercy and to walk humbly with our God?

  5. Babylon's Dread says:

    Ferguson? — They have defined themselves

  6. Nonnie,
    Yes, so I would tell ‘church people’ don’t loot or burn down the local stores because you are a follower of Jesus.

    I don’t think that message works with non christian rioters. In fact I think the non christian rioters acted the way I would expect non christians to act.

  7. Em says:

    #s 3 & 4 of course we, the Church, conduct ourselves as truth tellers and peace makers…
    sometimes that means standing up to authority without disrespecting them – rioting is not standing up to authority…
    that said, i vented in a policeman’s face once – if i had been a black teenager that wouldn’t have gone over well at all… probably wouldn’t have if i’d been a teenager period… but i was an angry mother talking to a reasonable officer of the law
    and i had a ‘discussion’ with a traffic officer once… told him that i knew that i had broken a traffic law and i’d do it again irregardless of how many tickets i got – it involved the safety of some children on the curb – he knew i was right and didn’t ticket me… a reasonable officer of the law
    while the Ferguson officer was absolutely right in shooting an enraged teenager who was rushing him (it would have been nice if he had been able to just disable him), the big question to be answered is how do these kids earn respect and learn to give respect? They have a history that has created a downward spiral…
    We must question authority, but we must respect it also
    “Reverend Al?” he’s a shameless opportunist and, yet strangely, has done one or two good things… by accident, i’m guessing

  8. Scott says:

    When the President of the United States himself fans the flames, what do you expect?

    Makes absolutely no sense to me that the mostly black residents of Ferguson would go out and burn to the ground, vandalize and loot the businesses and properties run and owned by other mostly black residents of Ferguson. That is NOT justice!

  9. I think maybe this is a good time for white people to listen.

  10. Michael says:


    That would be my real last thought on the matter.
    I’m a white male living in a white semi rural area…and I have no clue what the social and economic realities of being a minority in an urban environment are.
    We all need to learn to listen to each other…

  11. Furtick did the give people $100 bucks gimmick, too.

  12. The lesson is, you don’t mess with the cops.
    When I get pulled over by a cop, while he is pulling me over, I reach in my glove box and pull out my registration and insurance so it is already out.

    When he approaches, I am sitting there with my hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel looking straight ahead. I give him no concern for his safety. Since my license and registration is already out – I don’t have to ‘reach’ for anything.

    People need to use a little wisdom.

  13. Back in the mid 90s we lived in a small shack at the beach. One day my son drives up the alley in his VW and right behind him are 2 police cars. They pinned his VW against the garage and I heard a bunch of commotion.

    I went outside, they had the car surrounded and one officer had his gun drawn. I ran out side and yelled to the cops “can I help you.” They told me to back off and go in theohouse. I told them I was the father, they said louder go back in the house.

    I did. Now I could have raised hell and got my head beat in, but I chose a wiser path. What had happened was that someone at the market had walked by my son’s car, saw a rifle on the back seat and called the cops. They followed him home and investigated to find his BB gun.

    Don’t mess with the police.

  14. Em says:

    #12 people may have to be taught to be wise before they can use it…
    (“when?” not “if” – sounds like MLD drives a bit too fast) 🙂

  15. Now I must admit when I heard the cop ask my son 19 at the time if he could search the care, saying to myself – “I hope he doesn’t have any drugs tucked away. 🙂

  16. Em says:

    #13 – that’s a good example
    the police aren’t super-humans… and one can’t be sure just where they’re minds and capabilities are in any particular incident

  17. Babylon's Dread says:

    Plenty of racism to be found in Ferguson, no doubt about that.

  18. To the story about the dead raisers … to what end?

  19. Em says:

    migrations are changing the whole face of the planet as far as ‘demographics’ (think that’s the term i want) are concerned… will the Muslim extremists take over? or will reason prevail? a dictatorial religion of peace in order to save the planet from destruction?

    darn Michael’s hide… my whole morning has gotten away from me…

    God keep

  20. dswoager says:

    “My third thought is that the divisions among us are deep and evil…and the church can and should take the lead in fostering dialog and seeking solutions.”

    I have to admit that my first impulse reading that statement was to laugh…

    “We can do that as soon as we learn to talk to each other…”

    Then it tuned out you weren’t taking it too seriously either.

  21. Babylon's Dread says:

    What would have happened last night if the justice seekers had burned and looted the courthouse and the police department?

  22. Jim says:

    My 30 yo Florida-born son lives in Brooklyn and works on 5 th Ave in Manhattan. He’s a city boy at heart, and grows increasing progressive. When I asked him what he thought of stop and frisk, he said, ” I’m glad I’m not black”.

    I haven’t walked a yard in a young black guys shoes, so I haven’t earned the right to begin to try and understand their frustration. We need a MLK.

  23. Steve Wright says:

    As long as race-baiters get away with calling others who refuse to play the game “Uncle Toms” there never will be a MLK in this generation.

  24. Nah, MLK got plenty of that crap. He just stayed on mission.

  25. Steve Wright says:

    Yeah but the mission today is so different than the injustices MLK fought.

    Whites opposing civil rights and equality for black people in the 1960s. Yes you’re a racist.

    Opposing liberal political programs, or even simply opposing our black President’s policies in Syria, healthcare, taxes, or some cabinet nomination, to be given the same racist label…it’s lunacy.

  26. I do agree with Steve. MLK would never accuse others of racism over the issue that the Jesse Jackson’s and Al Sharptons today accuse people.

  27. Surfer51 says:

    I was talking with a black friend the other day and I perceived he was against Latinos.

    He is a Christian.

    It broke my heart to hear him speak against them.

    My own neighborhood is around 65% working class Latinos.

    Hard working families.

    When was the last time you heard of Latinos burning neighborhoods in America?

  28. Jtk says:

    Babylon’s Dread
    November 25, 2014
    “What would have happened last night if the justice seekers had burned and looted the courthouse and the police department?”

    They would have been shot.

    I’d love to hear your follow-up, and so I answer….

  29. Babylon's Dread says:

    Burning and looting a city is criminal. Last night we saw a crime against the community committed by thugs thieves and government officials. The complete dereliction of duty by the governor was criminal.

    The pathetic support for the justice system by Obama and Holder is pure racism from the top. They all gave tacit approval for what happened in the streets of Ferguson.

    That poor rage induced kid that got killed by that terrified cop was less a criminal than all those I just named.

    Barak Obama could have spoken in a way that would have stopped the crime. He could have had an MLK moment. He could have been an agent of reconciliation. I have never spoken against him since he was elected. It was too important to oppose. Now I have.

  30. I am glad to report no overnight race riots here in south OC.
    Now to our reporters in Iowa, Oregon and Florida, gentlemen how are the tensions there?

  31. JonnyB says:

    Just saw a group of protestors standing in a line across the 5 freeway. They completely stopped the freeway for 20 minutes until police arrived and convinced them to walk off. (7:22 AM 11/26/2014.

    Wow BD!
    Obviously polarized and opinionated, you sizzled there.

  32. Michael says:


    I strongly disagree.
    Obama spoke against the violence.
    It was not that long ago that your city streets were filled with protestors over the very same issues…how many citizens have your police dispatched over the last few years?
    The poor and minorities in this country believe the justice system is broken and the President acknowledged those feelings.
    He did not rise to lofty heights of leadership in this matter…I don’t believe he has that capability.
    I looked around for someone who did…and the seat was empty.

  33. Michael says:


    There were actually some protests here, nothing of any significance.
    The big news here is a planned strike and demonstration against Wal Mart that I plan on participating in.

  34. Babylon's Dread says:

    Well then,

    I need to write his speech for him. I agree he spoke. His poor job betrays his poor thinking. He was able to inspire the nation enough to elect him. At a time when soaring rhetoric could place him alongside the great leaders he chose to use enough victim speak to signal the toleration of what came next. Let’s just start here…

    “We’ve come too far to demean ourselves by violence in our streets… we’ve come too far to listen to the base inclinations of our worst selves… we’ve come too far to validate injustice to our sons by injustice against our neighbors, We’ve come too far to sow violence into violent hearts” Don’t tell me he couldn’t find a preacher who could have found the notes to sing a song that took him above the angry mob.

    Further– I sit here in my den and have enough sense to know exactly how that night was going to unfold. Everyone knew. The thing was orchestrated to serve thugs and thieves and give them their day. It was an intentional set up to let the crazies blow off steam… It was authorities at the highest level telling the mob that they were right..

    Every person in that street Monday night justified the fear that creates violence. Obama could have taken them all to a higher place but he would not.

  35. Steve Wright says:

    The poor and minorities in this country believe the justice system is broken
    “Poor and minorities”?…or large numbers of the black community including vocal leadership?

    “broken”?….or racist?

    “justice system”?…..or America?

    I pastor in a poor, minority-populated city that once had horrible crime and was a dangerous place. Gunfire was regularly heard. Our former pastor was known to not dismiss the night service on occasion because of gang activity in the area. The city increased the police budget and while it still has a lot of problems with homelessness, drugs and poverty…it is mostly safe at night

  36. Michael says:


    The reality is that probably half this country agreed with the mob…and they are Obama’s constituency.
    I’m at a loss to know what more he (or anyone else) could have done…except maybe address the terrible divisions within this country in a way that provoked the first tiny steps toward unity in addressing the real problems we’re facing.
    Frankly, I don’t believe that we want to ascend to that “higher level” anymore…we want to defeat the other side…even though we are all supposed to be on the same side.

  37. Babylon's Dread says:

    Alas Michael,

    The seat was indeed empty.

    We look in vain for great ones to lead us.

  38. Michael says:

    One day we will wake up and realize that we all took the rhetoric too far…and then it will be too late.

  39. Perhaps Obama should go on TV and read for the public some of the Grand Jury testimony. the witnesses who testified Brown was the aggressor – the witnesses who changed their original testimony against Wilson and admitted they weren’t even at the scene.

    Perhaps he could spend 30 min reading pertinent material and give his presidential blessing on the outcome.

  40. Michael says:


    The increase in police solved one problem…but it doesn’t address the roots of the problems.

  41. Michael says:


    These things become symbols of something greater and the facts in an individual case become moot.
    As I alluded to yesterday, most of the people commenting on this probably haven’t read the grand jury report.

  42. Steve Wright says:

    Agreed @40 Michael…that’s where the church must step in. The “Reverends” in other words. Those roots of the problems. Government sure can’t.

    But the “reverends” don’t. They fan the flames.

    As for myself, I am at a loss when I look at the stats that show 72% of black children born out of wedlock, AND that black children are aborted at much higher rates than anyone else.

    The increase in police presence in our town 20 years ago coordinated with a multi-church effort to minister to the homeless at the same time.

  43. “As I alluded to yesterday, most of the people commenting on this probably haven’t read the grand jury report.”

    No one cares about the commenters on a blog. I think that the fire bombers should read (or have read to them) the grand jury findings before they toss their first Molotov Cocktail.

    Perhaps I will go burn down my neighborhood to protest them burning down theirs.

    Anyone who excuses any part of these actions with “well you need to understand, is them self a danger to society.

  44. Em says:

    as i read the thread this a.m., i must agree with pastor BD…
    Obama has been a disappointment to many of us … what we thought would be a statesman has shown himself to be a small man with a good act, while i don’t know where he was born (Hawaii – probably), he is not a patriot, but he is definitely is a part of the globalist trend or so it seems to me
    MLD made some observations yesterday that made sense… you can’t mess with the police when they’re doing the job they’re hired to do as best they can… and certainly don’t mess with the occasional bad apple in blue
    that said, Brown was, in some twisted way, a hero – or he can be… at age 18 all he saw ahead of him was frustration… he wasn’t a good guy, but he can be a data point for some change in leadership and accountability… some serious mentoring of this wealth of ability and latent talent walking out and about at night with nothing to do, but mischief – or worse … or so it seems to me again

  45. Michael says:

    As MLK said “a riot is the language of the unheard”.
    The difference is that King was careful to promote non violent protest.

    I think blog commenters are important because they reflect the attitudes and opinions of those who don’t write professionally.

    Taken in a good sample size they reflect the culture…and that should scare the hell out of all of us.

  46. Babylon's Dread says:

    You can only indict a ham sandwich if there is ham in the sandwich…

  47. Michael says:


    It’s easy to take shots at Jackson and Sharpton.
    Mark Bowden did an excellent piece on Sharpton a few years ago if you can find it…the man is a complete asshat.

    Having said that…where are the great evangelical leaders pointing us to a better way?

    There are none.

  48. Em says:

    does anyone else see the poetic tragedy in Brown’s last act? he stole a box of cigars?

  49. Michael says:


    The problem is that too often the ham has been there, the sandwich was eaten, and nothing was done to clean up the kitchen.

  50. Babylon's Dread says:

    “A riot is the language of the unheard”

    I will say it again… that riot on Monday night happened because the community HEARD the voice of our leaders telling them to speak. They might as well have had actual burn permits.

  51. Babylon's Dread says:

    The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.” If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”

    With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

  52. Babylon's Dread says:

    Ok I am done ranting…

    Time to clean up the mess and start over, again.

    With Malice Towards None Dread.

  53. Michael,
    “Having said that…where are the great evangelical leaders pointing us to a better way?”

    I don’t know about the “great leaders” but the ordinary ones are right where they are suppose to be – in the communities offering hope through Christ and tending to people’s physical and spiritual needs …every single day – listen to me, every single day. I am disappointed that you not only don’t see it, but on top of that actually deny that it is happening.

    Now, the fact that the world chooses to ignore what is good for them, choose to ignore the help and effort provided is neither here nor there. Didn’t I read somewhere that Michael Brown’s father’s church was burned down the other night? Well there you go.

    It’s not for a lack of presence, effort or being right – hey, those same crowds strung up Jesus.

  54. Steve Wright says:

    Having said that…where are the great evangelical leaders pointing us to a better way?
    What standing can any white, hispanic, asian, or any other non-black evangelical leader have to speak to the problems in the black community. Besides, then it is dismissed as “political” (or racist) as if being married to your baby’s mother is a right-wing agenda point.

    I find it very concerning, and likewise something that supports Dread’s earlier comments, that the National Guard was delayed by the Democrat governor of Missouri, despite pleas from so many – Personally, I would like to see, under oath, an investigation as to whether Holder, or Obama himself (or someone in the administration) pressured for that delay.

    I refer to dread’s comments: ” I sit here in my den and have enough sense to know exactly how that night was going to unfold. Everyone knew. The thing was orchestrated to serve thugs and thieves and give them their day. It was an intentional set up to let the crazies blow off steam… It was authorities at the highest level telling the mob that they were right.”

    Dread is wise.

  55. Michael says:

    “I am disappointed that you not only don’t see it, but on top of that actually deny that it is happening.”

    That is obscene.
    I will not tolerate this.

    I haven’t said anything remotely close to that.
    Steve was obviously alluding to leaders with a national presence and my comment was in that context.

  56. Michael says:


    As long as we see everything in terms of Democrat and Republican we will never see any progress and we will move one step closer to civil war.

    MLK was able to bring the races together to a point…why can’t a another person do so regardless of race?

  57. Michael – On almost any social topic you constantly have a litany of questions “:where is the church?”

    Out on the front lines – every single day. Evangelicals do not need national leaders to speak for them.

  58. Em says:

    BD’s #51… i think that i disagree… like much of the commerce of this fallen world, slavery is a result of a combination of factors… not good, but bad is probably dependent upon the ‘masters’
    what i think we are reaping is the result of the horrendous segregationist policies that consigned black skin to a lower standing than white skin
    when i was a teenager i remember a little old lady who’d spent most of her life in Mississippi telling me, with righteous conviction, that you had to keep the ‘n’ in their place, “I caught a big old b’ buck stealing from my (vegetable) garden and I made him lie down right there in the road and whipped him good.”- that is what we are paying for now… the hundred plus years that this ugly standard was allowed by us and our Federal Government to continue in part of our country… maybe, it will take another hundred years to atone? – just my own viewpoint here

  59. Babylon's Dread says:

    OK I am done with Ferguson….

    On to the College Football Playoffs…

    The great thing about 4 playoff spots is that it raises the conflict over who deserves a shot by doubling it…

    We gotta have 8 teams … really 16 like all the other divisions but I thought that 40 years ago

    Alabama is going to win out…
    Florida State will lose and one loss will doom them… Florida will probably beat them
    Oregon will be in great danger of losing too but I think they will sneak through
    Mississippi State will win this weekend but get screwed out of the picture just because they are Mississippi State
    Baylor and TCU will both win out but Baylor will lose out because everyone thinks they were lucky to beat TCU
    Ohio State will sneak in I think they will beat Michigan and somehow beat Wisconsin

    So it will be:
    Alabama vs TCU
    Ohio State vs Oregon

    Mississippi State vs Florida State in the oh well bowl…
    Nick Saban will wear the crown again
    Ole Miss will sing sad songs about the season that might have been.

    And we will all get an 8 team playoff within 5 years…

    Cash Cow Dread

  60. Michael says:


    Lot of wisdom in your #59…

  61. Michael says:

    Oregon is injured and small…no chance.
    Alabama wins again.

  62. Babylon's Dread says:


    Second Inaugural of Lincoln… ?
    what a speech!

    “With malice towards none, with charity for all… ”

    Those words formed my childhood when yet I comprehended them only slightly

  63. Michael says:

    Whether we “need” leaders or not we have them.
    Probably mostly embodied in Franklin Graham…who I have absolutely no use for.
    The “voice’ of evangelicalism on a national level is skewed right and Republican…to the degree that it excludes those with contrary political views and similar theology.
    That has to change…the Gospel has to go beyond those sectarian boundaries.

  64. Joel Osteen – Dem or GOP? How would you know?

  65. Michael says:


    Good obfuscation as usual with the Osteen nonsense.
    I’m speaking of “Christian” news and media outlets that are the daily voice that many listen to.
    You know that, but God help you if you were to ever concede a point.

  66. covered says:

    “injured and small…” That’s what they said about David when he met Goliath! Except for that injured part 🙂

  67. I don’t know of anyone who has a larger Christian following or awareness factor in the neighborhoods than Joel Osteen. His voice would be heard long before Franklin Graham’s.

    I would send Osteen in to provide Christian leadership in a Ferguson situation any day.

  68. Em says:

    BD #63 … ? … not sure we’re tracking here, but i do agree that the Civil War under Lincoln’s leadership made the statement that the United States had no place for slavery to continue… good and better … but what would have been best would have been a change in the mindset that saw (and seemed to want to see) the freed slaves as lesser humans, not less educated, but just sub-human… the nation failed to follow thru on the emancipation back then… IMV
    now i understand that your roots are in the South? and your perspective is probably way better than mine on this subject … just sayin how it looks to me from my West Coast upbringing

  69. Steve Wright says:

    Dread…we have to have a 8 team playoff. Agreed.

    The funny thing is that the ranks of the lower teams will make a lot of difference. If Minnesota beats Wisconsin to remain ranked, TCU goes up. If they lose and drop out, TCU goes down.

    Give me the 5 conference champs. And the 3 best at-large (which would be probably Miss St, Baylor, UCLA this year along with the OSU, Oregon, Bama, TCU, FSU champs)

    Done and done. Regular season remains huge. And rather than have a one-loss conf champ on the outside, it would be someone arguing about the 8th spot who likely had at least 2 losses.

  70. Scott H says:

    Jim linked a story about Natalie a small business owner who’s business was ransacked by the rioters in Ferguson.

    It was such an uplifting testimony of God’s grace and the generosity of many reaching out to her in her hour of distress and need.

    If you haven’t heard about her please give it a read.

  71. Babylon's Dread says:

    Em … your posts were excellent…

    I was just musing that you posted a connection to my #51 … then said “I think that I disagree”

    I was pretty sure you were not referring to Lincoln’s speech … just making a segue to your own comment… so I went (?)

  72. Em says:

    BD, my late husband was very intelligent and logic was his field of expertise – i never let that stop me and used to laugh that we’d be having a discussion and he’d get an expression that i’ve described as a deer caught in the headlights – not because i’d out thought him, but because he realized that i made no sense to him at all…

    my response to your #51 was probably along the same lines… i’m sorry

    i was thinking that slavery was not what we’re now paying the price for, rather, it seems to me, that we’re being held accountable by the Almighty as the nation turned a blind eye to the terrible actions of some white folk afterwards – for nearly 100 years?

  73. brian says:

    I am wishing you and yours a very happy thanksgiving.

  74. Joe says:

    I find it astonishing that many on this blog seem to rail on the GOP then our president and his ilk. Who for the most part has really persecuted the Christians in the military and makes fun of the fundamentalists, supports gay marriage and abortions. I suspect Michael and others here voted for Barrack Obama so there is sympathetic issues going on here.

  75. Michael says:


    I voted for him twice.
    I have also been very critical of him.
    I will never vote for a Republican again for the rest of my life barring divine intervention.
    I may not vote at all.
    Some of us consider the rights policies as sinful as the lefts…I think they all work for the same oligarchy.

  76. “Who for the most part has …and makes fun of the fundamentalists, ”

    I do and I never voted for Obama.

  77. I voted for Obama 10 times. No voter id required 😉

  78. Joe says:

    The differance MLD, is your a nobody In the scheme of things and can laugh at your jokes. On the other hand, Obama is a president and what he says can have grave consequences, even so much as starting a nuclear war with just words alone.

  79. Joe says:

    I marvel that a Christian would support a leadership party that is so pro-abortion and vote for a president who is pro-abortion.

  80. Michael says:

    I marvel at Christians who think abortion is the only moral issue on the table.
    I guess we’re both amazed.

  81. Joe says:

    I marvel even more at the lack of conscience and sensitivity to the heart of God on this matter. Because I really cant think of anything that would trump any of your pet moral issues to that of killing a hopeless, defenseless unborn child.

  82. Michael says:


    I’m opposed to abortion.
    I’m also opposed to and for a lot of things that you would be on the opposite side of, but I’m not going to question your faith.

  83. Jim says:

    I don’t understand progressives and they don’t understand me, and that’s just fine. When makes me wanna puke is when my fellow republicans judge those on the left, implying that a political philosophy reveals bad intentions. Good people on both sides, along with odd ducks like me want what’s best for our country, we just disagree on how to get there.

    Politicians are actors who memorize talking points.

  84. Steve Wright says:

    Bigotry has 100 different flavors…but it still is bigotry.

    God deals with everyone as individuals. We would be wise to do the same.

  85. Richard says:

    “The difference MLD, is your a nobody In the scheme of things and can laugh at your jokes.”


    So you find it necessary to insult a fellow believer like that to make a point, I guess.

    Boy, I really want to read what you have to say.


  86. Northstar says:

    The Black community is not looking for an MLK , they are looking for the Nation of Islam version of Malcom X

  87. Northstar says:

    Police no matter what race have a right to defend themselves and that’s what happened in Ferguson. No matter how many MLK’s come on the scene it wont change the fact that many don’t accept accountability for their actions

  88. Joe says:

    The media apparently did not carefully listen to the Bob Mccullough’s press conference.
    The last 10 shots where recorded on video by someone who was doing a video chat. So there is video of almost the entire scene for the exception for the incident where Browne tried to grab the officers Wilson’s gun inside the cop car. And the reason is because the media wants capitalize as much as possible financially before this story becomes buried.
    When the video of the last 10 shots where fired by Wilson. I predict well see something very close to officer Wilson’s testimony. Where Brown stopped turned around and headed towards and possibly charged him. But the Brownes will still say they murdered there son in cold blood because he was black. And it was Wilsons fault and there son wouldn’t hurt anyone. This whole black agitation movement is based on a lie and some black people are calling it for what it is, a lie.

  89. Scott says:

    Joe, fyi, I don’t believe Mccullough said the final 10 rounds were captured on video.

    Only that the “sound” was captured on video “chat”.

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