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  1. dusty says:

    good morning everyone! have a wonderful day 🙂

  2. Michael says:

    Good morning, Dusters!

  3. dusty says:

    ((((((((((((((BIG HUGS)))))))))))))

  4. dusty says:

    HI big brother. hope your day if full of joy!

  5. Michael says:


    That would be a change… 🙂
    There’s always joy to be found…we just have to dig a little deeper sometimes.
    May yours be better than mine…always.

  6. erunner says:

    Thanks for the link addressing ministers and depression. It’s a reality and not the mark of some sort of failing in the life of the minister or anyone else. The more the word gets out the more the stigma is minimized.

  7. erunner says:

    Good to see you Dusty!!

  8. dusty says:

    doing to have a sleep study done tonight. lol

  9. dusty says:

    hi E-brother good to see you

  10. Rob Murphy says:

    The “must we agree” article caught my attention. I watched a really neat interview with Crosby, Stills and Nash (conducted by Dan Rather) yesterday. The three men do not agree on when they first met, when they first sang together . . . but they agree the best thing they’ve ever done musically is sing together. They are incongruous in many respects, but they have great regard for one another. They hold to ‘the hippy ideal’ but do not hold their own icons to the same ideal. They’re mixed up about many things, but they sing together beautifully.

    The thing they love to do most together is getting harder to do as they get older. Stephen Stills is going deaf and that’s going to end their favorite part of their relationship and the keystone of it at some point.

    Why? Because they have to agree on a root note to sing together, or all their differences stop being harmony and just become independent notes. They have to first hear the root note and then adjust their own differences, their own individual tone to be harmonious with one another. Each one singing their own note to their own preference without deference will equal cacophony.

    But that’s just with music, I reckon. Doesn’t really work in everyday life. I guess.

  11. Shaun Sells says:

    I’ve had four sleep studies over the years, they all say I don’t breathe right. Surgeries, machines and oxygen – and I still don’t sleep right.

  12. Michael says:


    I’m fighting the battle with depression myself…so if there’s a stigma, I own it too.

  13. Michael says:


    Brilliant analogy!
    Thank you!

  14. Owen Wells says:

    Rob, I have to agree, wonderful analogy.

    Except I will add that I think it does work in real life, but it’s seldom applied.
    (…or is that what your were saying?…)

  15. Shaun,
    Ask your sleep doctor about a dental appliance you can wear at night. I have horrible apnea and got a referral to a great dentist who specializes in this medically approved alternative to the CPAP machine. My sleep study numbers came back significantly reduced and I am getting great sleep, even dreaming again.

    If interested email Michael, I’m sure he wouldn’t mind passing your email along.

  16. Nonnie says:

    The Catherine Booth article is very good. I never knew much about her. Thank you!

  17. j2theperson says:

    The “Must we agree to be in relationship?” article caught my eye also. I remember when I was in highschool, I had a friend who was really good friends with a boy. At one point the subject of her and the boy dating came up, and she said that she could never do that because they went to different churches and the Bible said to not be unequally yoked. I didn’t argue with her about it, but I was really quite shocked. There are legitimate reasons why someone might choose to not become romantically involved with someone who is part of a different denomination, but bringing in the concept of being unequally yoked (something that is about believers with unbelievers) is just totally wrong. She was good friends with this guy so I’m sure she didn’t mean it in this way, but it really came off as quite denigrating to him and sounded like she was placing him in the category of an unbeliever simply because he attended a different church.

  18. The Franken Bible…so many kinds of abuse just waiting in the wings there.

    Carl Trueman does nail it.


    I was reading this and was once again confronted with the dreams that Muslim believers are having.
    Everywhere that I read of Muslims coming to faith, I read about their dreams.
    Of course, I also read about the rest of the story increasingly.

  20. erunner says:

    Catherine Booth was an incredible woman. She had so much going against her yet she touched countless lives with her hands on approach to ministry. What an encouragement to read.

  21. brian says:

    I have heard about those dreams, dreams about God can be extremely powerful. I one time had a “rapture” dream about me some folks I had worked with being caught up in the air made physically hole. It was extremely powerful and quite moving I woke up crying of a kind of joy I do not allow myself to experience now that I am more mature in the faith. But it was powerful.

  22. Ryan Ashton says:

    Can you guys check this blog out and tell me what you think about it?

    It’s by a 62 year old PhD in Hebrew Studies, George Bowker. He’s a pastor from Redlands who has left “institutional religion.”

    His primary thesis is that “truth is a person” and therefore it’s arrogant (and operating out of fear) to argue over what is right, and because his journey has led him to learn and grow, that to be certain about things is antithetical toward Love.

    If we are to Love people, we need to be squishy with the Truth… basically.

    It’s a common argument from Bethel types (and George hangs out with Bill Johnson occassionally).

    This is a paradigm/perspective that I am increasingly confronting, and one that irks me.

    First, it’s pretty postmodern in its assertion that to make assertions is akin to arrogance.

    Second, not only did Jesus say He “IS” the truth (John 14) but Ephesians 4:21 says “the truth is IN Jesus.” We also know the Holy Spirit is a “spirit of truth” and that [God’s] “word is truth.”

    Third, those who use this argument are implying propositional statements are wrong, and to relate to truth as a “person” makes facts, exactitude, certainty, and rightness more fungible. Yet truth is anything if not consistent. It doesn’t contradict itself. People who use this argument do so when they’re pressed on a point of doctrine.

    On on the issue of doctrine, if “truth is a person” and “certainty is wrong” and we should all just Love each other more and not worry about facts, what of the Gospel, the Apostle’s Creed, the Nicene Creed, any of the heresies that have cropped up over the centuries, the Reformation itself (which crystallized when one man literally stood for the truth — specifically of salvation by faith alone). What of the martyrs who were burned at the stake under Mary? If “truth is a person” and we shouldn’t argue about ideas, then when push comes to shove, we shouldn’t have ANY convictions about ANYTHING at all, now should we?

    In matters of justice and equality, when fighting against slavery or racial segregation, it is interesting that activism is done from a place of “knowing right from wrong.” If “truth is a person” and “being right” isn’t “loving,” then no one should be activists. No one should take a stand for anything.

    Instead we should just be pushovers, doormats, and allow people to treat us any way they want and rely on God — who seems extremely slow to act — to change situations.

    Part of me is glad Martin Luther King Jr didn’t take George Bowker’s approach. If he did, the Civil Rights Movement would never have happened.

    But… those are my thoughts.

    What are yours?

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