Memorial Day

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  1. centorian says:

    I remember a father who fought in two wars, obviously had a bad effect on him. Uncles who also served. Fathers of my friends while growing up. The slanted personalities were no doubt distinguishable.. Those of my own generation who were a few years older who didn’t come back, some who did that wished they hadn’t. A generation that was too outspoken about love and too demonstrative of their hate toward those who served. Supervisors and coworkers who were tasked to do their duty yet have trouble finding recognition in the ceremonies of the day. Friends who’s sons are not coming back…. and those who do struggle with reconciling the balance sheets of their experience.

    The costs of war go so far beyond our understanding.

  2. Nonnie says:

    I was against the war as I feared it would be another Viet Nam and yet wanted to trust our leaders that they were making a righteous decision and not a decision based on economics/oil…….., BUT
    Politics aside, I thank God for the men and women who love their country and are willing to lay their lives down for our freedoms here. Lord, keep them safe and bring them home.

  3. Em says:

    Centorian,”The costs of war go so far beyond our understanding.” AMEN

    our leaders (exploiters) are arrogant and stupid for the most part, but our men and women are heroes by heritage IMO

    God bless the men and women “who will march into hell for a heavenly cause…” and God be merciful to us as we scramble to hold onto what “America” is about…

    this time last year i started writing an unplanned book for my grandchildren (it seemed to take on a life of its own); an attempt to explain my views about an absolute God and the way He was honored by the generation(s) before mine in the USA. Patriotism didn’t stir in their bones as an ephemeral emotion about duty, honor and country…
    ‘These were the people of a generation who were called by God to address a righteous cause. A generation then blessed with a history making prosperity. A final call of God? A Divine display? Or just another data point in the time-line of history? Perhaps it was both.”

  4. Na'amah says:

    #1 Centorian “the costs of war go so far beyond our understanding.” amen

    #2 Nonnie …wanted to trust our leaders that they were making a righteous decision and not a decision based on economics/oil..

    unfortunately man’s history has always included warfare and at various levels economics, whether it be oil or some other resource, contributes to the decision to improve one group of peoples’ quality of life over another… those w/out choose to attack those who have and people have the right to protect what is theirs

    sometimes the ‘resource’ is ideological such as the concept of The Republic of the United States of America, where man is endowed with rights by his CREATOR and the government serves the citizen

    the unknown costs… and let us not forget what those costs purchased us freedom from tyranny opportunity for the next generation to continue to live free

  5. BrianD says:

    Linkathon will post late Wednesday. Until then here is this to tide you over:

  6. Rob Murphy says:

    I am thankful for the warriors I have in my family; for my Grandfather, for my Grandmother’s five brothers, all World War II vets; for my uncles and my Dad, for my Father in Law and his two brothers. For my dear friends from my church family, some thirty in all yesterday stood up so we could applaud them.
    I think of the tribute video we showed yesterday, one veteran said “I crawled like a worm in the mud for your dignity . . . and I would do it again”.
    For those who have made our freedom today, words are not enough – and I pray that all our words would respect the cost paid for the freedom we enjoy.
    I am thankful for the warrior and I hope my life honors the sacrifice.

  7. Em says:

    re: BriainD’s link above – IMO, Glenn Beck is an emotional patriot and shouldn’t be denigrated for that stand, but a teacher of the Faith, he is not.

  8. Believe says:

    Beck was raised RCC and later a Jesuit…his journey has taken him into Mormonism…but his journey is not yet over…

    Like any semi-political leader / investigative journalist…he is a man and fallible…he is not Jesus our Christ. He has some things to be admired…his courage to take on Sacred Cows and to act as one of the few legitimate 5th Estate checks against this current administration and corrupt two-party system and corporate-wall street-banker-FED establishment.

    Like with anything…his rhetoric requires Critical Thinking…his Belief System is questionable…and much needs to be tested and filtered through a matrix of other voices and the Word of God…HOWEVER…to dismiss him entirely is a mistake. He has been raised up and is influential in our Vapor…and is opening a dialogue in areas that are outside of the carefully administered propaganda that is regurgitated by the bulk of the Main Stream Media and Closed System Administration and corrupt bought and paid for Two-Party System.

  9. Believe says:

    Agreeing with much of what Centy and Em are saying…also admiring and appreciating Tom Stipe’s worship leader Kory…well done!

    Regardless of your political affiliation…or if you are agnostic politically…our men and women…brothers and sisters…fathers and mothers…friends and neighbors in our Military deserve our prayers and encouragement…today is a good day to remember them.

  10. Luth says:


    Beck an investigative journaliist?

    I spewed my coffee on that one.

    Come on. The guy is a lying propagandist.

    And that’s being charitable.

  11. Captain Kevin says:

    Pastor Tom, you have much for which to be proud! Glad to see you poke your head in at the Ol’ PP! God bless you.

  12. Captain Kevin says:

    We sang “America the Beautiful” at church yesterday, and people stood spontaneously. It was nice to see that respect for our homeland still exists. On the other hand, whenever I ask folks to stand as we read the scriptures, or stand to honor the Lord as we sing, you can almost feel the collective groaning. What gives?!!

  13. Captain Kevin says:

    “The guy is a lying propagandist.”
    Luth, how so?

  14. Scott says:

    “A lying propagandist.” At first, I thought Luth was referring to Obama, then realized he was spewing some of that good ole’ fair & balanced PBS hatred towards b€ck 🙂

  15. Buster says:

    Capt. Kevin,
    I guess the muslims are more of a unifying force than the demons…

  16. Isaiah56:1 says:

    A HUGE thank you to all who defend our freedom and our land!

    I wish I could express my thoughts and gratitude as well as Kory did in that song – but I can’t, so I’ll just say “dittos” to what Kory sang!

  17. Believe says:

    Luth…name an “investigative journalist” who has uncovered more than Beck has in the last year…

    You’re a very intelligent person…the “leakers” are using Beck to get information out that the infatuated “media” consistently passes on or intentionally passes on.

    Olbermann was a credible source during the Bush admin…like him or not…he received info because of his firm stand against that administration.

    Olbermann is in love with this administration…and has lost his “saltiness”…journalistically speaking…as has most of the MSM this past year or so.

    Journalism is dead…so what we are left with is sifting through the noise coming via special interest groups…PR firms…government staffers…political operatives and spinmeisters…to find fragments of truth…Beck provides some pieces…whether you like him or not. To deny him completely only limits you…and IMO isn’t wise.

    However, you are certainly entitled to your opinions…and Beck is certainly not the end-all be-all…and there are some voices in the MSM that are worth consideration.

  18. Believe says:

    My opinion is that the political landscape is really controlled by the FED, wall street, large corporations, most of the two-party politicians…in a group I will call the “Elites” or the “Haves” for referential purposes.

    Beck is challenging that establishment to a degree…though a lot of the info he receives is from the minority party…as they want to wrest figure-head power from the majority party.

    The truth, IMO, is that until we bring along a third and fourth party into the “System”…we will not dilute the consolidated power of the “Elites/Haves”…and the regular person will be a slave to the “System”…and many will be (and become) wards of the State.

  19. Believe says:

    40 million families are now dependent on Food Stamps…that’s 1 in 8 families in the U.S…and counting.

    Only 50% of the people in the U.S. pay any income tax…and the trajectory of that number is falling fast.

    Our National Debt and pending Social Security/Medicare crisis is a ticking fiscal time-bomb. $13 Trillion U.S. Debt, plus Fannie/Freddie balance guaranteed balance sheet of $6 Trillion in debt and counting…plus a whopping $107 TRILLION in today’s dollars…in unfunded Social Security/Medicare obligations…tick, tick, tick.

    Our largest states are bankrupt…California and New York…which are like small countries in an of themselves…cannot fund their pension liabilities…and must increase taxes…which drives out more business and drives down property values…and is a vicious cycle that feeds on itself….much like our National situation.

    Banks, wall street and corporations will adjust at the top…handing the losses and cost-cuts to the regular working man and woman. Outsourcing to avoid higher wages, setting up corporations overseas…doing strategies like the “Double Irish” to avoid already high U.S. Corporate taxes…and receiving tax payer bailouts ad infinitum which privatizes corporate and bank gains…while socializing the losses and putting them on the taxpayer’s balance sheet.

    Unemployment is here to stay at elevated levels for a very long uncomfortable time…unless we change course.

  20. Em says:

    as the old timer here, i must say that it isn’t too hard to see what we’ve accomplished in the last 60 years… the Gulf oil gusher is very symbolic of what arrogance and greed can accomplish in an instant… we have a hydra that is, more than likely, unstoppable…

    but our Lord told Cain ‘your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.’ He is the God of history and He knows and He will repay … may He have mercy on us all …

    God keep all close and comforted in the sure knowledge of His Truths this night

  21. Scott says:

    Unfortunately, the conditions are ripening for another world war.

  22. Dusty says:

    Cash, thinking about you and praying for you today. Thank you for your service to our country for our freedom. (((hugs)))

  23. Captain Kevin says:

    Anybody know why all the comments disappeared on the Weekend Word thread? I was replying to something MB posted and “POOF!” I’ve killed threads once or twice in my 6 plus years on the PP, but not usually that quickly. 🙂

  24. Dusty says:

    captain, not sure what happened.

  25. Emily says:

    Anybody know why all the comments disappeared on the Weekend Word thread? I was replying to something MB posted and “POOF!” I’ve killed threads once or twice in my 6 plus years on the PP, but not usually that quickly. 🙂

  26. Captain Kevin says:

    OK…uh…well…I do sometimes exhibit drastically different personality traits, but I’m pretty sure that the Captain Kevin of comment 25 and the Emily of comment 27 are not the same person. In fact, I’m sure of it.

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