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  1. Em says:

    Michael made mention of the TV program My Cat from Hell….. There are a set of parents in Oakland county who purchased a revolver for their 15 year old son to take to school….. 4 are dead and many wounded…. It’s not only cats inspired by Hell, evidently

  2. LInn says:

    Em, I haven’t read that the parents had bought the gun for their son to take to school, but I do know they have been charged with manslaughter for not securing the gun (which any gun owner should do). What concerns me is why anyone would just want to open up and shoot at people when it is nothing to do with self-defense, a police action, or war battle. I find it awful that our society is so deranged that a visit to Walmart, a movie, concert, or school attendance can end up in a mass shooting. I pray often that our society will begin to understand that being armed to the teeth is not the way to solve most of our problems. Every time my school has a lockdown drill, I pray that we will never have a mass shooting on campus.

  3. LInn says:

    On a lighter note, I am going to my first Christmas party in two years-tonight! It is at church with the women from the Spanish congregation I attend. It is a blessing to be able to gather together again in person.

  4. Em says:

    Good observations, Linn. However, I have lived (too long) in a neighborhood with malicious, twisted parents. What motivates them? The devil? Or just twisted minds? I don’t know. One of the mothers was a practicing witch, the others? I just don’t know…..

  5. Em says:

    Linn, the father gave the gun to his son after being told by the school that his son needed counseling. What did these parents think their son would do? Shoot himself? Ughh

  6. Linn says:

    People are a bit out there right now, that’s all I can say. I do think there is more evil in the world. I have a friend who is a practicing witch (I live in California!), but she has never, ever expressed a desire to hurt anyone. As an aside, we have had interesting conversations comparing our belief systems, and I keep praying she comes to the Truth.

    We have learned to tolerate violence (video games, TV shows, movies), as well as cheer those who are violent (think Jan. 6, for example). We promote violence on platforms like Twitter and Facebook. Our days remind me of Rom. 1:31-we are not only a violent nation, but we approve of those who practice violence.

    The church stands by and wrings its hands, or demands “justice” for the perpetrator, but we don’t push for the restoration for the parts of our society where this stiff is coming from. I thought the 60s and 70s were violent, but what I see now really concerns me. I do what I can, working with kids in my church’s Spanish congregation and encouraging my students towards more useful forms of dialog. And, I pray for God’s mercy upon our country.

  7. Em says:

    God’s mercy? Me too, Linn
    Your 1:32 post is – IMHO – VERY insightful
    Good read, thank you

  8. Officerhoppy says:

    Linen
    Can you cover me…I’m going to Walmart!

  9. The New Victor says:

    The “facts” on the Michigan story, are over the place which is typical. People want answers, but the truth will likely come much later. Seems like the parents are on the lam now?

    What’s disturbing to me is that students have said he was bullied.

    When Columbine happened, I was shocked at the implicit sympathy towards those “bullied kids.” My buddy’s dad was a cop at the time and they studied it. Those two kids were evil psychopaths. Yet a a severely bullied kid myself in junior high in the mid 80s who had my own .22LR, it would never have occurred to me to murder. My bullies wanted to meet me by the dumpster after school. I thought to myself, “Good luck, I need to catch the bus for my 18 mile ride home.”

    My kids are 9 and 11. My 11 year old son was punched by a classmate the other week, the kid was suspended. S11 dealt with it OK. It was during group volleyball. It’s literally decades since Columbine and anti-bullying efforts on schools (PeaceBuilders, look it up), yet it seems like kids are all who they are.

    Despite Parkland, a kid in Florida was arrested for making school shooting threats. I wonder if that, though necessary, will result in the kid being worse (lost), or being a wake up call not to be foolish, to say the least, when he should have known better?

  10. Linn says:

    The New Victor,

    Bullying definitely does different things to different people. I was bullied in most of elementary/middle school due to walking issues caused by a birth defect. In my case, it led to my isolating from the bullies and finding other things to do. It also gave me a lot of empathy and I was into all kinds of service projects. I did find my voice in high school, and started telling people that name calling just wasn’t appropriate. But, in high school I wasn’t physically accosted like I was in middle school, so that made it easier to speak up.

    Teachers can only do so much to deal with bullies and exclusion (I mean, you can make kids play together but you can’t make them like each other-cue to the dance scene in West Side Story where the two rival gangs are supposed to be dancing with each other’s groups. It never happens, and the adult in charge seems like a complete idiot). However, the school should have probably suspended the offending student as soon as they were aware he was looking up ammo selections and required counseling before they had him back in. And the parents, no matter what the issues are about the purchase of the gun (although everything I’ve read today said they bought it for their son), should have had it secured.

    i work in a private school. It’s probably a lot safer than a public school, but I still wonder what we would do if “what if” occurred. We practice our lockdown drills every year. We also have discretion about expelling students, which happens very seldom. My personal take, as I expressed in my response to Em above, is that our societal obsession with guns and violence affects everyone, children/youth included. I mean, if you can grab a gun at home and get rid of the people you really hate, why not? You can watch it in the movies and play-act it on video games. I often wonder what parent in their right mind lets their kid play FortNight, for example, but most of the church youth I know play the game with their parents!!!!!

  11. Em says:

    Memory jog….
    When we moved to Kansas, we rented a house on a corner. Working at my kitchen sink I could look down the intersecting street. At dinner time I would see our newspaper boy walking down that street trying to deliver his papers while the kids on the block followed him, taunting and throwing rocks at him.
    One time they followed him around the corner. I went out, scolded them and sent them packing.
    One day a woman rang the doorbell and said she was collecting for our newsboy as he was giving up the route.
    I said, “You must be very proud of your son.”
    She answered, “He’s not my son. He’s a foster child and we’re returning him as he is a trouble maker.”
    I told her what I’d observed and said that since he never retaliated, she should be proud.
    She said, “I’m so glad you told me this as the parents on that street had complained to the newspaper.”
    Turns out those kids had told their parents that the news boy had started it and they were just “responding” to his hostilities.
    She said that she and her husband would reconsider in light of what I’d told her. I hope it turned out well for that boy.
    Bullying isn’t a new phenomena.

  12. Em says:

    Yes,Michael, this blog site has much to offer humble, God fearing and thoughtful people! ! !
    Hebrews 5 was my morning reading – mentions teachers needing to be taught…… I think this site can wake up the students!
    God keep

  13. Em says:

    Global warming and abortion are hogging the news today…
    Global warming ( drought)’seems I read something about that in the book of Revelation…
    abortion – the fetus, not being a living soul feels no pain? Not true. Do puppies and kittens have souls? I don’t know, but if you start cutting them up in pieces, THEY FEEL PAIN ! ! !
    True I am old, but it does seem that this world is on a downhill slide of rationalizing and false justifications….
    Can man stop global warming? Some think so…… Dunno
    Guess I am the only one snowed in today… 😇

  14. Just one of His Lambs says:

    Just saw that CNN fired Chris Cuomo. I have had little respect for CNN for the past few years, with their bias and shoddy reporting, but today I applaud them. They are certainly doing better, in this respect, than many evangelical churches who continue to allow adulterous and abusive pastors and leaders to earn a pay check . Even when you, Michael, publish a story, with all the evidence of an abusive or adulterous pastor/leader, there will be those who will scream about having grace. I’m all for grace, repentance and forgiveness, but kick their butts to the curb . In the church there should be men and women of integrity serving/leading.. Bravo, CNN!

  15. Em says:

    Just one of His Lambs,
    WELL SAID! ! ! 👍 👍

  16. The New Victor says:

    Linn, I had a similar issue having ectodermyl dysplasia. I looked different. We all look vaguely similar like kids with Downs Syndrome look similar to each other. Bullying stopped by sophomore year. The last time it overtly happened was by some 6th grade kids in a taco bell when I was 19. I wanted to ignore it and let it go but my buddies didn’t. Their mother was doing nothing. My buddies confronted them and we all ended up parting ways friendly after we all sat down and talked. Bless my friends… I defaulted into ignore and retreat mode.

  17. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    CT ep 12 dropped and it’s 2.5 hours long. Sadly it’s more worthwhile than WW84. : (

    It also became clear hearing former members and staff share things that an accurate distillation of Driscoll’s problem was that every time we could’ve gotten christus exemplar we got Driscoll exemplar instead.

    https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2021/12/aftermath-and-problem-of-mark-driscolls.html

    There’s some stories of disastrous pastoral counseling of the sort I privately warned seemed hard to avoid on my way out. it’s not going to be something for everyone is how I’d delicately put it.

  18. Em says:

    Mourning today
    Bob Dole – so resembled, mind and body – one of my uncles
    There are career politician s and there are career public servants – Dole was a public servant – like my uncle, an honorable man with principles…… IMHO, of course

  19. bob1 says:

    Except for many or all of those on the current loony Right (today’s Repubs), there’s a consensus that Dole was a good man with strong principles.

    “Dole’s death prompts nostalgia for a bygone era sullied by Trump’s GOP”

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/06/politics/bob-dole-republicans-trump-debt-ceiling/index.html

  20. bob1 says:

    More wisdom from the late, great statesman Bob Dole (he wrote this a few months ago):

    “I always served my country best when I did so first and foremost as an American. I fought for veterans benefits not as a Republican but as someone who witnessed the heroism of our service members firsthand.

    I advocated for those with disabilities not as a member of the GOP but as someone who personally understood the limitations of a world without basic accommodations.

    I stood up for those going hungry not as a leader in my party but as someone who had seen too many folks sweat through a hard day’s work without being able to put dinner on the table.

    “When we prioritize principles over party and humanity over personal legacy, we accomplish far more as a nation. By leading with a shared faith in each other, we become America at its best: a beacon of hope, a source of comfort in crisis, a shield against those who threaten freedom.”

  21. Dan from Georgia says:

    Thanks bob1 for those Dole quotes. Now THAT is a politician I would’ve voted for! A true servant of the people.

  22. bob1 says:

    DFG,

    Yes. Me, too. For most of my life I haven’t been a conservative, but Dole was one you could reason with, and vice versa.

    I’m not too cynical to believe this could happen again.

  23. Just one of His Lambs says:

    My aunt worked at a coffee shop across from the Kansas state capital building. Senator Dole was a regular and, of course everyone knew him and would greet him as “Senator Dole.” Not my Aunt Julie. She loved people and everyone was a friend to her. When the senator would walk in , Julie would (in her slow Kansas drawl) say “Hi Bob!” Others were shocked but Bob loved it!

  24. bob1 says:

    Lambs,

    Doesn’t surprise me one bit. Thanks for sharing!

    I also like that he appreciated the late Norm MacDonald’s imitation of him on SNL.

  25. Dan from Georgia says:

    Lambs and bob1…nice to see a politician with a self-deprecating sense of humor! And the late Norm MacDonald’s impression was fantastic (as was his impression of the late Burt Reynolds).

    It would be great to see more people in office who were humble servants of the people and had a good head on their shoulders (that comment wasn’t directed at anyone in particular).

  26. Officerhoppy says:

    I think Bob dole the last of the politicians who were statesmen. I can’t say that many today, regardless which side of the aisle they sit, are statesmen.

  27. Nathan Priddis says:

    CT episode.

    I finally got around to the Nov 12th episode. Took a podcast break for quite a while there. Still upset about Demon Hunting and the unexpected support from some quarters.

    I’m curious what others think the longterm outcome, if any will be? And, is there and effect on the afterlife?

  28. Nathan Priddis says:

    Bob Dole

    If I recall correctly ( a big if ) Roger Stone was Campaign Manager for Dole/96. He was fired because both Stone and spouse, where public swingers. I believe they publicly advertised for potential partners.

    Times and acceptable norms have changed a bit since then. Evangelicalism would swallow a camel, so to speak.

  29. Em says:

    Lived in Kansas for six years – had the privilege of voting for Dole. His war wound left him with a paralyzed right arm but the the man didn’t go off in a corner and suck his (left) thumb as so many seem to do today

  30. bob1 says:

    Roger Stone — Yecchhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Good on Dole for dumping his a*s.

  31. Em says:

    OREGON! ! !
    you’re experiencing a cluster of earthquakes magnitude 5+ off your coast
    Hang on

  32. Michael says:

    Happens all the time out there…

  33. Em says:

    Random thoughts – taking advantage of Michael… 😘
    I grew up in So. California and was 5 1/2 when Pearl Harbor was attacked.
    I’m a little tired of hearing my parents and grandparents generations denigrated.
    They all, through the Depression and WW2, stepped up to the plate, sucked it up and got the job done. My children and grandchildren know the facts, but too many today are trying to reconstruct history to fit their nefarious agenda.
    Of course black lives matter, have some great blacks in my family now. People who didn’t sit in a corner, sucking their thumbs and claiming victimhood. ALL lives matter and we are in desperate need of some honest history lessons – don’t know when we turned the corner, sucking up lies, but there is a BIG gap in this nation today. Favors delusions
    IMNSHO
    I am hearing some grim stories of Christians persecuted in the middle east – PRAY and
    God keep

  34. Em says:

    Reading an observation on another blog here and realizing that grief can color one’s thinking….
    Left me with a ponder, can one who doesn’t know Christ, show Christ’s love? ? ?
    Nevertheless, showing love to one who is grieving is as it should be…..

  35. Xenia says:

    can one who doesn’t know Christ, show Christ’s love? ? ?<<<

    Yes. God can use all kinds of people to accomplish His purposes, and He will use a loving unbeliever to show love to one who needs it. He definitely used that Muslim chaplain, even if she didn't realize she was doing the work of Christ. Everyone is God's servant, whether they realize it or not.

  36. Em says:

    Xenia, praying here for God’s mercies in this terrible grief period… God keep
    Will ponder your thoughts @ 8:20

  37. Dan from Georgia says:

    My co-worker next to me, who is a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, just said that the trash can next to me could put on a more exciting performance on the field than the one that the Steelers are currently showing to NFL nation…

  38. Michael says:

    I spent 20 minutes on Phil’s podcast talking about how bad the Vikings were going to lose…

  39. Dan from Georgia says:

    Michael…you were almost prophetic there…

  40. Em says:

    “God bless the USA…”
    TV just played that song. The first time I heard it I was sitting on my patio looking out over a little town called Wenatchee and wondering why the FBI higher ups had ignored the reports from the field regarding middle eastern men taking flying lessons here without learning to land the plane…. The twin towers had just been destroyed…. Next door they were building a house and the carpenters had a radio turned up high enough that I could hear it where I sat.
    I confess the lyrics brought tears as I realized that our nation was changing…. Could God bless the USA?
    Perhaps you have to be an old person to see the changes … to mourn the loss of respect for the Christians that was a viable part of my growing up
    Come soon, Lord Jesus. Father, They kingdom come soon….
    If we aren’t praying, we should be… IMNSHO

  41. Em says:

    Spell that “THY” – not they – auto. correct will be the death of me! ! !

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