I haven’t gotten to the Russ Moore article, but that one from the Atlantic was amazing! I’ve tried having some similar conversations with members of the CC I used to Assistant Pastor at (while I was still there, of course), but ultimately it was to no avail.
addendum:/Correction: I erred in my post (apologies, for what it’s worth)…I was only 1/2way through it when I posted (lesson reinforced, again. Hopefully I’ve finally learned my lesson.). The basis of my conversations with folks at our old CC was that the message of the Church was Jesus and living a life as a disciple of His..no matter what the political/social climate was at the time.
This message was always received…poorly. While I personally agree with Brown’s sentiments, they do need to be left outside of the church walls.
“ I fully expect that the United States is resilient enough to overcome its present divisions and to conserve democracy for generations to come. ”
I don’t share his confidence. I don’t see how the breach between American Christians and Americans in general, can be mended.
Our Democratic government was founded on compromise. These days we don’t even talk to those who may have a different perspective much less compromise. Instead of the U.S.A. We are the D.S.A (divided states of America)
Just a funny observation. In my spiritual journey, I was confirmed a Lutheran, made a personal commitment to Christ in a Pentecostal church, became a CC pastor for 20 years, and now am sorta attending a Presbyterian church.
With all the debate about election or choice it’s interesting to me that Calvinist (only elects will be saved) preachers preach like they are Arminian. “All can Come to Jesus”. And the Arminian pastors (who believe you can lose your salvation) preach like they are Calvinists “your secure”.
I was confirmed Lutheran, baptized and ordained Southern Baptist and became nondenominational charismatic with a slant toward idea not that you can lose your salvation but that you can leave it.
It’s all yours today…
Important piece from Russell Moore…
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/september-web-only/russell-moore-sbc-baptist-church-splits-dividing-america.html?utm_source=CT+Daily+Briefing+Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_term=229321&utm_content=10704&utm_campaign=email
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/06/evangelical-church-pastors-political-radicalization/629631/
I haven’t gotten to the Russ Moore article, but that one from the Atlantic was amazing! I’ve tried having some similar conversations with members of the CC I used to Assistant Pastor at (while I was still there, of course), but ultimately it was to no avail.
I so “feel” Pastor Browns sentiments…and mourn.
addendum:/Correction: I erred in my post (apologies, for what it’s worth)…I was only 1/2way through it when I posted (lesson reinforced, again. Hopefully I’ve finally learned my lesson.). The basis of my conversations with folks at our old CC was that the message of the Church was Jesus and living a life as a disciple of His..no matter what the political/social climate was at the time.
This message was always received…poorly. While I personally agree with Brown’s sentiments, they do need to be left outside of the church walls.
“ I fully expect that the United States is resilient enough to overcome its present divisions and to conserve democracy for generations to come. ”
I don’t share his confidence. I don’t see how the breach between American Christians and Americans in general, can be mended.
Our Democratic government was founded on compromise. These days we don’t even talk to those who may have a different perspective much less compromise. Instead of the U.S.A. We are the D.S.A (divided states of America)
Ted Gioia has an essay at his substack on how Duke Ellington wrote a suite for Queen Elizabeth.
https://tedgioia.substack.com/p/when-duke-ellington-made-a-record
Just a funny observation. In my spiritual journey, I was confirmed a Lutheran, made a personal commitment to Christ in a Pentecostal church, became a CC pastor for 20 years, and now am sorta attending a Presbyterian church.
With all the debate about election or choice it’s interesting to me that Calvinist (only elects will be saved) preachers preach like they are Arminian. “All can Come to Jesus”. And the Arminian pastors (who believe you can lose your salvation) preach like they are Calvinists “your secure”.
Just kinda funny
That is funny Hoppy
I was confirmed Lutheran, baptized and ordained Southern Baptist and became nondenominational charismatic with a slant toward idea not that you can lose your salvation but that you can leave it.