“The instability of your question leaves me with several contradictorily layered responses whose interconnectivity cannot express the logocentric coherency you seek. I can only say that reality is more uneven and its (mis)representations more untrustworthy than we have time here to explore”.
Of course someone actually said this, “I do believe; help my unbelief.”
Is the second pre-postmoderism?
As far as Putin goes he understands perfect the idea where, what people perceive is far more important than what really is.
Except for those who are in reality looking down the barrel of a real gun.
For a guy getting older you’re ok in a phallogentric sort of way.
This linguistically challenged syntax could take some practice, but I do like cheese and crackers. Everything is good on a Ritz.
Serendipity, nothing more as I was responding to Derek’s highly amusing PoMo post.
Interesting related article on why the guy doesn’t speak in tongues anymore.
Also interesting article on “the emergent church”.
…oh, just noticed my NOOMA DVD is finally queued up.
I’m done from recording the latest of my new charismatic worship songs, “Shandala Kyrie”, where I used a loop pedal to take the repetition to whole new level. When my wife and I visit our favorite local community of followers of Jesus (http://theeffect.org/) tomorrow morning we will join with Chris Falson and raise our hands and sway and I might introduce the melody, if The Holy Spirit leads.
I’ve always wanted to be a graphic novel artist, love the style, especially the lines and inking.
Graphic novels evolved from comics, which were printed on pulp low quality paper, usually with a glossy cover. The cover art is what catches the eye, then the story boarding was usually below par. I will look up and post a link to an artist who was one of the first who dramatically changed the look and feel of graphic art in comics.
Hey G,
“When my wife and I visit our favorite local community of followers of Jesus ”
Are you postmodern, emergent types allowed to specify “favorite”? Is that not passing judgement on those left behind as “not your favorite” or those who might be “less than your favorite.” 😉
If we could count dust we would know how many sons of Abraham there are.
I can’t count dust.
G – guy, enjoy NOOMA. Over 30 years ago I was wearing these really nice flannel pants and the fellow I was with kidded me about them. They were tan colored and comfortable.
#2… no wonder I don’t get a lot of what is said and written these days. I always kind of feel stupid and lost. I feel better now.
#1– cool Derek, now this is on my to-read list.
#7 MLD…. yeah, that gave me a good laugh yesterday and today. And then I was just left a little sad
I tried to buy a comic a couple of weeks ago. it was sold out. I even went to the nerd store…. I felt like I walked in to nerdvana….. a whole wall of Doctor Who junk, (unheard of when I was watching it in the 80’s) and now they have comics for every fandom and faction of said fandoms…. Nerd life is becoming big business (not unlike the way the church as become big business, and all the sub factions within!)
And since it is open blogging….
Michael, how do I know that when I am on amazon that you are getting credit for it? I was just going to look for the above mentioned comic, (which btw is this… http://www.darkhorse.com/Search/serenity)
how do I know that you are getting credit, and do you see what we purcahse? (not that I have much to hide, but I do shop on amazon quite a bit)
thanks
I only get credit when you access Amazon from the ads on the left or the PhxP bookstore.
I don’t see names or any information about the persons making a purchase.
What I get is a list of items sold and how much I made from the sale.
This is kind of what it looks like.
I couldn’t get it to transfer properly.
We sold a few of these when this book came out.
My profit was $1.76…which is a lot on Amazon.
God’s Forever Family: The Jesus People Movement in America Amazon.com $29.32 6.00% 1 $29.32 $1.76
I finished “Church and State” story arc and got halfway through “Jaka’s Story” when the comic store went out of business.
I really need to buy the graphic novels and pick that story back up.
I was DC as a kid and owned all of the various heroes comics. Wish I’d kept them! But Marvel has done so much better bringing their heroes to the big screen. I’ll grow up eventually!! 🙂
I wanted to get that “Gods Forever Family”, thanks for the reminder Michael.
Speaking of comics:
I did some interior painting for a guy in the early 90’s. A decorator had hired me to do the work. I didn’t know who the client was until I was on the job. This was the man whose home I was painting in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_McFarlane
I used to get an ice cream shake and curl up on the floor of Pinks drugs in Costa Mesa CA when i was a kid and read comics for free back in the 60’s. There was a back room with bookie activities going on at that time, that I didn’t know about until Hank of Hank’s electric told me of just a few years ago. Pinks no longer exist.
There was a used book store that I could trade three comics in for a new one around the corner. Nick Fury was one of my favorites along with Superman and Batman. I don’t know what it was about comics but I was an insatiable reader of them in my youth.
When I was 10 we lived in Mt Shasta and I would clean tables at my Dad’s restaurant and would be very thorough cleaning the booths, which were a treasure trove of change. If I had $1, I had a king’s ransom . . . back in 1977. I could get a Pepsi at the bottling plant, a couple candy bars and either 2 comics or 1 Mad Magazine, ride my bike to the City Park, find a tree to sit under and have a perfect day. Comics always remind me of those amazing days when a bicycle, a couple quarters and the sun shining meant perfect freedom.
Spider Man, Iron Man, Mad Magazine, or if I was totally flush, Famous Monsters or Starlog. Great memories.
I really liked this one. There was a “rock opera” version too, It would have been fun to see. Stephen Lawhead is on of my favorite authors. The novelization is great too.
oh and Derek… got the book, started reading last night. thanks
The Super Café is reliably funny and the Villains Pub is off to a promising start. How it Should Have Ended has some funny Superman/Batman repartee. The knock-knock joke is as funny as it is stupid. And Batman freaking out that Dr. Who didn’t save Amy is funny, too.
Tangential to comics and cartoons, Miyazaki’s new film is a kick in the face compared to his other films and I think that the mainstream movie critic who would have most gotten what’s going on in the film (the late Roger Ebert) is no longer around. A pity, since we’ve got Ebert’s advocacy for foreign and niche films at least partly to thank for some great anime and animated films getting some more exposure.
@51 – Wen. T. Hatch – I saw it on Friday with my daughter and I’m wondering if Miyazaki views the dreamer as being responsible if the pursuit of his dream leads to destruction? Should the creative type hide his gift if the development of the gift leads to such destruction?
I have not seen any of his other works in whole but have only glanced at his artwork, my daughter has viewed more than I have. It was almost an “Agony and Ecstasy” view of aerial engineering, in my thinking. Amazing color palette.
Rob, it’s a complex film, and I think a lot hinges on understanding the nature of the question, “Would you choose to live in a world with or without the pyramids?” The answer is moot in the sense that we already live in a world with pyramids. So the question is somewhat rhetorical. We know humanity keeps building pyramids, we know that there’s always some generational tower on the plain of Shinar where people build a monument to themselves. The question is how that gets rationalized and, not to be too subtle about it, engineered. 🙂 Or as Film Crit Hulk put it in a review of the film, people get so hung up on the “what” they wonder the film is getting at that they don’t realize the message of the film is about “how”.
Collecting more thoughts about the film for ,ideally, something that will show up in some other setting.
It’s all yours today…
How the Gospel Brings Us All the Way Home by Derek Thomas. Free on Amazon today.
http://www.amazon.com/How-Gospel-Brings-All-Home-ebook/dp/B0062XJVBS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393689699&sr=8-1&keywords=how+the+gospel+brings+us+all+the+way+home
Found this to be lulz worthy this morning.
http://thepaperthinhymn.com/2010/01/26/how-to-speak-post-modernism/
Thanks for the book, Derek!
Great article Derek – now I know why I don’t understand G anymore. 🙂
meh
Record response time – I think I am being stalked. 😉
I am an old Cold Warrior – I have been telling people since the fall of the USSR you can’t trust the Russians.
I love the play – Putin sends in some troops, Obama makes a threat and Putin goes and gets his government’s permission to invade.
This is better than playing the old battle game RISK.
MLD:
“The instability of your question leaves me with several contradictorily layered responses whose interconnectivity cannot express the logocentric coherency you seek. I can only say that reality is more uneven and its (mis)representations more untrustworthy than we have time here to explore”.
Of course someone actually said this, “I do believe; help my unbelief.”
Is the second pre-postmoderism?
As far as Putin goes he understands perfect the idea where, what people perceive is far more important than what really is.
Except for those who are in reality looking down the barrel of a real gun.
For a guy getting older you’re ok in a phallogentric sort of way.
This linguistically challenged syntax could take some practice, but I do like cheese and crackers. Everything is good on a Ritz.
Serendipity, nothing more as I was responding to Derek’s highly amusing PoMo post.
Interesting related article on why the guy doesn’t speak in tongues anymore.
Also interesting article on “the emergent church”.
…oh, just noticed my NOOMA DVD is finally queued up.
I’m done from recording the latest of my new charismatic worship songs, “Shandala Kyrie”, where I used a loop pedal to take the repetition to whole new level. When my wife and I visit our favorite local community of followers of Jesus (http://theeffect.org/) tomorrow morning we will join with Chris Falson and raise our hands and sway and I might introduce the melody, if The Holy Spirit leads.
What’s even more interesting than all this other stuff, to me, is a digital painting I’m going to work on today. The artist I’m taking my inspiration from is http://francesco-francavilla.blogspot.com/2013/05/batman-for-oklahoma.html
I’ve always wanted to be a graphic novel artist, love the style, especially the lines and inking.
Graphic novels evolved from comics, which were printed on pulp low quality paper, usually with a glossy cover. The cover art is what catches the eye, then the story boarding was usually below par. I will look up and post a link to an artist who was one of the first who dramatically changed the look and feel of graphic art in comics.
Bob,
I am a pre postmodern kinda guy who thinks we need to return to a more phallogentric society. 😉
Here’s the artist, Jim Steranko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nickfuryshield.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Steranko
Hey G,
“When my wife and I visit our favorite local community of followers of Jesus ”
Are you postmodern, emergent types allowed to specify “favorite”? Is that not passing judgement on those left behind as “not your favorite” or those who might be “less than your favorite.” 😉
Here’s a recent graphic novel that I bought while in a bookstore in Laguna Beach…
http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Superman_Secret-Identity_Art1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Secret_Identity
MLD
The good new is this,
If we could count dust we would know how many sons of Abraham there are.
I can’t count dust.
G – guy, enjoy NOOMA. Over 30 years ago I was wearing these really nice flannel pants and the fellow I was with kidded me about them. They were tan colored and comfortable.
Ya all have a blessed last day of the week!
Here’s more on the artist, love his artistic style
http://www.busiek.com/
Here’s the illustrator,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Immonen
Gman,
I loved graphic novels…and yes, I love comic books.
Very cool stuff.
http://immonen.ca/image/73560555565
Michael,
I’ll post links for you and those interested. Nice to find another thing of which we share an appreciation. =)
Gotta fire up Photoshop and my Wacom Tablet and get drawing!
Have a great day.
#2… no wonder I don’t get a lot of what is said and written these days. I always kind of feel stupid and lost. I feel better now.
#1– cool Derek, now this is on my to-read list.
#7 MLD…. yeah, that gave me a good laugh yesterday and today. And then I was just left a little sad
I tried to buy a comic a couple of weeks ago. it was sold out. I even went to the nerd store…. I felt like I walked in to nerdvana….. a whole wall of Doctor Who junk, (unheard of when I was watching it in the 80’s) and now they have comics for every fandom and faction of said fandoms…. Nerd life is becoming big business (not unlike the way the church as become big business, and all the sub factions within!)
I am fond of Archie & Jughead myself.
And since it is open blogging….
Michael, how do I know that when I am on amazon that you are getting credit for it? I was just going to look for the above mentioned comic, (which btw is this… http://www.darkhorse.com/Search/serenity)
how do I know that you are getting credit, and do you see what we purcahse? (not that I have much to hide, but I do shop on amazon quite a bit)
thanks
GG,
I only get credit when you access Amazon from the ads on the left or the PhxP bookstore.
I don’t see names or any information about the persons making a purchase.
What I get is a list of items sold and how much I made from the sale.
Cool will do that…. 🙂
This is kind of what it looks like.
I couldn’t get it to transfer properly.
We sold a few of these when this book came out.
My profit was $1.76…which is a lot on Amazon.
God’s Forever Family: The Jesus People Movement in America Amazon.com $29.32 6.00% 1 $29.32 $1.76
Thank you!
This was a favorite comic for me as a kid. Notice the 12 cents price!!
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/World%27s_Finest_Vol_1_140
I have always liked Marvel better.
If you want some funny stuff to watch based on comics go here and watch the Super Cafe episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHCph-_jLba_9atyCZJPLQQ
All the videos on here are hilarious, but the Super Cafe takes the cake in my opinion.
My favorite comic is this though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus_the_Aardvark
I finished “Church and State” story arc and got halfway through “Jaka’s Story” when the comic store went out of business.
I really need to buy the graphic novels and pick that story back up.
I lean DC, but I like both.
I was DC as a kid and owned all of the various heroes comics. Wish I’d kept them! But Marvel has done so much better bringing their heroes to the big screen. I’ll grow up eventually!! 🙂
I refuse to grow up if I have leave Batman behind… 🙂
I wanted to get that “Gods Forever Family”, thanks for the reminder Michael.
Speaking of comics:
I did some interior painting for a guy in the early 90’s. A decorator had hired me to do the work. I didn’t know who the client was until I was on the job. This was the man whose home I was painting in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_McFarlane
I used to get an ice cream shake and curl up on the floor of Pinks drugs in Costa Mesa CA when i was a kid and read comics for free back in the 60’s. There was a back room with bookie activities going on at that time, that I didn’t know about until Hank of Hank’s electric told me of just a few years ago. Pinks no longer exist.
There was a used book store that I could trade three comics in for a new one around the corner. Nick Fury was one of my favorites along with Superman and Batman. I don’t know what it was about comics but I was an insatiable reader of them in my youth.
I have a comic book about the Bible story of Genesis by R. Crumb (Link is through PP amazon ad)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_19?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the%20book%20of%20genesis%20illustrated%20by%20r.%20crumb&sprefix=The+Book+Of+Genesis%2Caps%2C276
McFarlane is the bomb…Spawn!
My favorite character from Cerebus. Lord Julius of Palnu
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/2/28245/635172-lordjulius.jpg
Pretty much Groucho Marx, but Dave Sims always had his Groucho dialogue down pat.
When I was 10 we lived in Mt Shasta and I would clean tables at my Dad’s restaurant and would be very thorough cleaning the booths, which were a treasure trove of change. If I had $1, I had a king’s ransom . . . back in 1977. I could get a Pepsi at the bottling plant, a couple candy bars and either 2 comics or 1 Mad Magazine, ride my bike to the City Park, find a tree to sit under and have a perfect day. Comics always remind me of those amazing days when a bicycle, a couple quarters and the sun shining meant perfect freedom.
Spider Man, Iron Man, Mad Magazine, or if I was totally flush, Famous Monsters or Starlog. Great memories.
Ahh…Rob…you understand! An ice cream soda and the comics rack was pure bliss.
I really liked this one. There was a “rock opera” version too, It would have been fun to see. Stephen Lawhead is on of my favorite authors. The novelization is great too.
oh and Derek… got the book, started reading last night. thanks
A thought for Lent
http://thebarebulb.com/2014/03/02/pre-lent-piss-christ/
A less pissy thought about Lent…
http://faithnfrivolity.tumblr.com/post/78377842573
A typical G World – no one observes Lent? LOL 🙂
Everyone in my world observes Lent!
Orthodox Lent is rather rigorous:
99% Vegan
Extra prayers
Extra church services
Many prostrations
Backing off on entertainment
Lasts 47 days
Boot camp for Christians.
And it starts at midnight tonight!
So, this is as good a time as any to bid you all a temporary adieu. See you all after Pascha!
(I’ll continue participating on the Church History threads, though.)
We just include the 40 days – or should I say we exclude the Sunday’s during Lent as we see Sundays as Feast Days to honor the Resurrection.
as we see Sundays as Feast Days to honor the Resurrection.<<<
We do too, normally.
“A typical G World – no one observes Lent?”
Hardly. Just found a more uplifting visual than a crucifix submerged in urine.
Interesting link about the world’s largest church having a failed leadership:
http://www.charismamag.com/blogs/fire-in-my-bones/19870-6-ways-to-prevent-an-embarrassing-ministry-scandal
In reading about various churches and other things I keep coming upon the word “intentional.”
Here’s an example.
“Knocking is the process of Serving with an intentional attitude of love.”
Why is the word attitude necessary as used above? How about serving with an attitude of love?
I guess I’m not as hip as I thought I was!
In closing I’ll say I made an intentional decision not to watch the Oscars this evening! 🙂
I don’t know about intentional, but I do tell people that I am a Lutheran on purpose. 🙂
The Super Café is reliably funny and the Villains Pub is off to a promising start. How it Should Have Ended has some funny Superman/Batman repartee. The knock-knock joke is as funny as it is stupid. And Batman freaking out that Dr. Who didn’t save Amy is funny, too.
Tangential to comics and cartoons, Miyazaki’s new film is a kick in the face compared to his other films and I think that the mainstream movie critic who would have most gotten what’s going on in the film (the late Roger Ebert) is no longer around. A pity, since we’ve got Ebert’s advocacy for foreign and niche films at least partly to thank for some great anime and animated films getting some more exposure.
Bip’s article on number 48 is very good.
@51 – Wen. T. Hatch – I saw it on Friday with my daughter and I’m wondering if Miyazaki views the dreamer as being responsible if the pursuit of his dream leads to destruction? Should the creative type hide his gift if the development of the gift leads to such destruction?
I have not seen any of his other works in whole but have only glanced at his artwork, my daughter has viewed more than I have. It was almost an “Agony and Ecstasy” view of aerial engineering, in my thinking. Amazing color palette.
Rob, it’s a complex film, and I think a lot hinges on understanding the nature of the question, “Would you choose to live in a world with or without the pyramids?” The answer is moot in the sense that we already live in a world with pyramids. So the question is somewhat rhetorical. We know humanity keeps building pyramids, we know that there’s always some generational tower on the plain of Shinar where people build a monument to themselves. The question is how that gets rationalized and, not to be too subtle about it, engineered. 🙂 Or as Film Crit Hulk put it in a review of the film, people get so hung up on the “what” they wonder the film is getting at that they don’t realize the message of the film is about “how”.
Collecting more thoughts about the film for ,ideally, something that will show up in some other setting.
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