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  1. Duane Arnold says:


    “… praying that the last shred of credibility and moral authority the church might have had in this country isn’t counted among the dead.”

    I’m terribly afraid that you are going to need a really thick prayer rug for that one…

  2. Michael says:

    Duane…sadly agreed.

  3. Captain Kevin says:

    I honestly don’t know who to believe anymore.

  4. Em says:

    We’ve been spinning things ever since Adam told God that the woman God gave him made him do it….. 😔

  5. pstrmike says:

    the more things change, the more they stay the same.

  6. Owen says:

    “Open the businesses, pack the churches, and let the devil have the hindmost.

    Allow everyone to take the advice and counsel of their favorite conspiracy theorist, even if it kills them.

    We need “herd immunity” even if it thins the “herd”…so they say”

    I’m waiting for someone to rail at you for saying these things, even though they are at least half tongue in cheek…..

    And sadly, even if/when we do all that, the ones wanting it won’t learn anything……

  7. Michael says:


    This is so divisive that even inside my own sphere I’m a pariah…just to the point where I don’t care.

  8. Babylon's Dread says:

    Even the people I pastor who believe the conspiracy theories are not acting irrationally. People believe all kinds of things that they don’t act on. They want to make sense of what doesn’t make sense. It is really something like the modern day version of arguing God’s sovereignty in the midst of a flood or a plague. People want to make sense of it. So they postulate God. Then they ask what should they do about it? Should we build the dykes or trust God? Should we fight the muslim invaders from Turkey or should we lay down arms. Meta-narratives soothe people.

    I am hearing radical things but seeing ordinary behavior. And I am not hearing either/or ideas from my people about opening everything or staying home. Most of them are content to stay home and try to endure the economic problem hoping the Federal Reserve/Congress will kick the problems down the road.

    The online noise is high, even my own, but most people are living well with neighbor concern.

    And I grieve with you – though I have a bit of fight in me too – more than my closest ones like.

    Babylonian Captivity Dread

  9. Michael says:


    Good points to consider…thank you.
    I have a bit of fight in me as well, but too many enemies for a man my age to handle.
    Staying home with the cats makes more sense these days…

  10. London says:

    Hear! Hear!

  11. Jean says:

    There is a new dynamic in play in the battle for reason and truth. Within the last 48 hours, two White House personnel have tested positive.

    While the President is encouraging States and our citizenry to “open up” and “testing is good enough” and “wear a mask if it makes you feel better,” watch what the White House does. Don’t just listen to the political propaganda, but learn what they are actually practicing. You will find that they are now daily testing everyone, mandating masks, and treating the cononavirus as a serious threat. If you were invited to the White House, and when you get there, you say, “My freedom and liberty do not permit me to wear a mask,” you will hear the door shut in your face. But, when will we get access to affordable testing on demand?

  12. Em says:

    Ask your Governor, Jean…. 😇
    It is not a one man task

  13. Dan from Georgia says:

    Georgia (where I live) is practically giving away tests now. At first you needed a doctor’s orders/permission. Many/most urgent care facilities will now test you if you show up and a tech determines that your symptoms need to be followed up on, and you can be tested on the spot that moment. There are even community events where testing takes place. Georgia has a high number of cases centered on Atlanta and the Albany area, so I am glad to see that testing is pretty much available to everyone. I know that in other states it takes more time and effort to get tested.

  14. bob1 says:

    No, it’s not a one man task…but with Trump, it’s a zero man task — he’s already given up on helping out. Plus, according to him, it’s always someone else’s fault. Count him out.

    Many state governors are the leaders and the heroes here…and their ratings with the public are 20 points or so higher than you-know-who. It’s really sad, the lack of leadership at the federal level. So much more could’ve been done to ameliorate this virus’s crippling effects on people.

  15. bob1 says:

    Jean, that’s great advice — look to see what people do, not what they say.

    Actions still speak louder than words. Beware the smooth talker/BSer. Read Proverbs!

  16. Jean says:

    Thanks Bob. From what I’ve heard from the stable genius, the answer to the testing question ranges, depending on the day, among these three:

    Anyone who wants a test can get one; or

    It’s your governor’s responsibility; the Federal government is only a back up; or

    There are experts who say widespread testing is not necessary.

    What you will never hear is: We need to do better.

  17. bob1 says:



    What about…the coronavirus will (magically) disappear when the weather warms up.

  18. Em says:

    Jean and bob1, it is always interesting to read your posts. 😁

  19. CM says:

    A few thoughts about coronavirus testing:

    1) The test is a snapshot of a person at at particular instant.
    2) The US population is approximately 330 million people, so only 5% test sample size requires 16.5 million tests (we are currently around 1/4th to 1/3rd that.
    3) Interestingly non hot zones one may need a larger sample sizer percent to determine the amount of infection.
    4) Only widespread antibody testing will help determine the exposure map.
    5) With #4 and increased testing, then one can do contact tracing.

    In short, despite all the bragging of Trump and his useful idiots, the amount of testing is still woefully short to determine the scope of the outbreak.

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