The Weekend Word

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  1. Em ... again says:

    7 And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.

    what exactly is our Lord saying to the Pharisees (the Jerusalem KGB 🙂 ) the disciples were guilty of breaking the law, were they not? it is possible to gain real spiritual depth meditating here, but isn’t it is also possible to go to seed on “judge not?”

    MLD is teaching from a VERY meaty passage – IMO

  2. Michael says:

    For me, this is one of the most critical and difficult passages in the NT.
    It states that the Law is good…as long as it is interpreted through the lens of love and mercy.

    Here is the answer to the old question about whether Rahab sinned when she lied to save the Israeli spies…the answer his no,because she acted in love and mercy to do the will of God even though it was a technical violation of the Law.

    The question before the house should be how far such an application can go…

  3. Jean says:

    “Here is the answer to the old question about whether Rahab sinned when she lied to save the Israeli spies…the answer his no,because she acted in love and mercy to do the will of God even though it was a technical violation of the Law.

    The question before the house should be how far such an application can go…”

    It is very difficult to find much of an application here for us. In the case of Rahab, you have her treason against her own government against an invading army who’s government was God himself. It was God himself directing the invasion.

    I don’t think any orthodox Christian would give legitimacy to someone claiming divine revelation to commit an act of violence against another country, much less his/her own.

  4. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Em,
    Let me see if I can help you clear up the mystery. Note that I said help you clear it up.

    Whenever Jesus speaks he is always telling us something about himself. He is a pretty self centered guy if I must say so myself. (the reason for this is that Jesus is here to reveal himself to mankind – or if I don’t want to go to jail in today’s PC world – humankind 😉 )

    So, none of this is about the Sabbath, eating wheat or show bread – designating which day you can pull your animals out of a ditch etc.

    See if that helps you when you re read the passage. Also, we need to remember, the Pharisees are not the bad guys – they may be the foils Jesus uses in his stories but if you read the law, they are following exactly what has been laid out to do — even to tithing their mint and whatever else it was.

  5. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Since so much of this centers around the Sabbath I think it would be a good venture to discuss the questions I have laid out in v. 8. Here you can see 2 things.
    1.) The way I teach in my class – I do not just download information – I expect interaction – so I ask these questions there and here.
    2.) Again, Jesus is telling us about himself – (a) he is the Son of Man and (2) he is the Lord of the Sabbath.

    So it would be good to know what is this Sabbath that he lords over.

    I need to take my 10 yr old grandson out for so basketball shoes – he has tryouts on Tuesday. 4 feet tall and 52 pounds – not quite Kobe yet.

  6. Em ... again says:

    “It states that the Law is good…as long as it is interpreted through the lens of love and mercy.”
    with due respect to the teachers here, that is the best insight (and there’s some good ones) i’ve gotten so far…

    if Rahab sinned, it was against the government, not against God… her instincts were correct as to whom to give respect in this case … it also hints as to which sins are the most egregious in God’s eyes… a forgiven harlot? well, i never ! ! ! 🙂
    question: if she’d lied to protect a customer in her back room from his wife’s suspicious family, would that have been a “good” lie in God’s eyes? probably good business… but…
    ?

    is the Sabbath Law or Gospel? it seems as i track here that it is the Good News of the Law, so isn’t it where the Law and Gospel meet?

    in my grandparents’ house Sunday was a day of rest from weekly chores, i.e., no laundry, no mowing the grass, no house cleaning or working on the car etc. . . didn’t mean that there wasn’t a nice Sunday dinner, of course so …? …

    little squirts playing basketball are too cute for words… IMHO

  7. Michael says:

    Jean,

    The application is that Jesus here established an interpretive principle regarding the Law…that being that in the New Covenant it is to be filtered through love and mercy.

    It was intended for such in the OT, but as with much, they missed it.

  8. Michael says:

    Technically the Sabbath was a covenant sign to Israel…

  9. Jean says:

    MLD wrote: “So it would be good to know what is this Sabbath that he lords over.”

    Let’s begin with the command:

    “Observe the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you. 13 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 14 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter or your male servant or your female servant, or your ox or your donkey or any of your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates, that your male servant and your female servant may rest as well as you. 15 You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the Sabbath day.”

    God established the Sabbath and made it a holy day for his covenant people. It is “to the Lord”. It is a day of rest and of “remember[ance] that you were a slave in the land of Egypt.”

    For the average Jew, this was pure gospel. It is a gift; it is rest.

    Here’s the interesting thing about Jesus being the Lord of the Sabbath: Just like God set the Jews free from slavery, Jesus sets the lame free on the Sabbath. He is keeping the Sabbath by doing miracles on the Sabbath; He is setting captives free. The Pharisees did not get it. Do we?

  10. dusty says:

    Jean, Well said .

  11. JD says:

    Jesus kept the Sabbath when he rested from creating everything, showing himself to be the Creator and God.

  12. John 20:29 says:

    can an unbeliever “keep” the Sabbath? i don’t think so…
    they can rest from their labors to stay alive and to prosper themselves, but what they can’t do as they set aside a time for rest, is remember God, to think on the reality of Him, of His mercies and His history with the human race…
    yet – perhaps, they may discover Him as they “rest” dunno …
    somehow, the earlier times in this nation when Sunday was set aside as a day of rest for almost all was a good thing, i think – even though it was inconvenient to not be able to buy a pair of shoes on Sunday, the commercial part of life was just one aspect of it, not the sum total

  13. Jean says:

    Concerning the Sabbath:

    “For the Word of God is the sanctuary above all sanctuaries, yea, the only one which we Christians know and have…. God’s Word is the treasure which sanctifies everything, and by which even all the saints themselves were sanctified. At whatever hour, then, God’s Word is taught, preached, heard, read or meditated upon, there the person, day, and work are sanctified thereby, not because of the external work, but because of the Word, which makes saints of us all.” (Martin Luther, Large Catechism)

  14. My take on the passage is that Jesus is changing the Sabbath law right there as he is confronted by the Pharisees. Kind of like, “you don’t like how I handle Sabbath, well take this – poof! I just changed it.
    He did similar in Mark 7 when being confronted, he said “OK, Now their is no dietary laws for you to bitch about.” (MLD short paraphrase) 😉

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