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  1. Babylon's Dread says:

    Well, I will need #1 fleshed out a bit because it is definitely part of my realized eschatology that in the Spirit we are already tasting the good things that are to come. I am not troubled by having that view challenged but by having it labeled as “great apostasy.”

  2. Michael says:

    First, let me acknowledge the weakness of this weeks column and my own poor writing today.

    The “apostasy” I speak of is the belief that the country one dwells in is favored by God above all others, almost to the point of attributing theocratic qualities to the preferred leaders.

    I have huge problems with “realized eschatology” as well, but that will have to wait until I’m awake… 🙂

  3. Babylon's Dread says:


    Nationalisms are all definitely demonic apostasy.

  4. KrisH says:

    #6…. LOL!!!! my recent pet peeve. Or being on IG and farming for likes.

  5. Josh the Baptist says:

    Yeah #6 is a doozy. I hope not, because if so, I know someone who is about to be in trouble.

  6. Michael says:

    KrisH…it’s obnoxious as hell to me…especially because the church is paying for those…

  7. filbertz says:

    instead of telling people what to read (or not) pastors should be begging their people simply to read…it would have a profound effect both on them and the next generation.

    I have a puppy-potty-training hangover…DST was nary a blip on the radar.

    in order for the church to be effected by women like Rachel Denhollander, they first must be given a voice and a hearing…

  8. filbertz says:

    your third observation both comforts and unsettles me.

  9. Michael says:


    I don’t think Rachel is going to ask permission…may her tribe increase…

    As to #3…it comforts me if it unsettles and comforts you…

  10. Corbatron says:

    #3 – this is where I am most of the time, and quite honestly, it seems to make me unpopular in both camps. I don’t know if that means I’m doing it right or wrong. I’m told that I am less influential (in both camps) because of my occasional concern/angst/frustration/desire-to-see-things-be-better in both directions, even though I do my best to provide positive solutions. I feel like I’m actually going crazy sometimes because few others seem to express the same things. I love the church. It is terribly broken in my neck of the woods but few seem to see if because they have different working definitions of broken and working.

    This is why I’m so psyched about Karl Vaters new book “Small Church Essentials.” It’s not a gimmick book, it’s not a church grown book, it’s a church health book and the best I’ve seen so far. if you’re interested.

    As for #6, I’ve had to do a tremendous about of blocking to avoid these kinds of ads in my feeds. They still get through, but, barf.

  11. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    What are the ads pastors are buying?

  12. Michael says:

    Ads about themselves… 🙂 They’re the product…

  13. John 20:29 says:

    1 … Never lose hope, but never forget until Christ returns, this world is entropic pole to pole in every direction until Christ returns…
    along that line is the Church falling short where end times education is concerned? Are we too much concerned with touting our interpretation of Revelation chapter by chapter to the neglect of equipping Saints with a solid grasp of Christ v false christs and teachers? Is it enough to just say, “well, if He doesnt come all at once within everyone’s view, it isnt the real Christ?” Are our churches really Christ centered or more religion centered?
    only on the first “thing” and ive already got a day’s worth of ponder… ?

  14. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Em, I am handling the teaching of Rev chapter by chapter. Since I think that Rev is the telling of the church history past, present and future between the advents (over and over again) I would say that is teaching / equipping a solid grasp of “Christ v false christs and teachers.” At least that was the method chosen by the Apostle John.

    So what would you substitute in place of teaching scripture?

  15. Muff Potter says:

    @ #2:
    This one strikes a chord with regard to “Daylight Savings Time”.

    Only a white man would cut a foot off of his blanket, sew it onto the other end, and then claim he has a longer blanket…
    — Attributed to a Lakota Medicine Man —

  16. John 20:29 says:

    MLD, you read my #13 as directed at your teachimng here? It wasnt

    I have only found one justification for setting clicks ahead and back again today… This far north it allows kids to get to and from school and activities in dayliight, but…
    Why not just change schedules for the kids?

  17. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    em, I didn’t take your post as aimed at me – but I did want to explain that Rev contains exactly what you stated as missing – so I asked what you would substitute for Bible teaching.

    In AZ, we do not do DST

  18. Nathan Priddis says:

    #1. I would say that most of what we are told of the end of the age, is incorrect, if not outright lies. Starting with an end times, one world government. A European Anti-Christ in tailored designer suits.

  19. John 20:29 says:

    We do requuire a grasp of what God has revealed of how history from the ascension of His Son back to the Throne room of God to His return to earth, but the “lying signs and wonders” our Lord pointed to in His overview in Matt. 24 are much less apt to cause us to get sidetracked IF we have really been taught to appreciate a Holy God, His Son and His unrelenting, unwavering plan…
    We are not to be running after phenomena – if God does a miracle, once in a while He sees fit to do so, just praise Him and move on smiling…
    So, it is pretty hard to declare what is a correct teaching of the end… At best we speculate, and thats okay to a point, but its pretty certain when it comes it will be crystal clear… Tread lightly, tho, cuz we aint seen nothin yet… ?

  20. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Em, some of us are not speculating about the end at all. My entire end time scenario is what Jesus (Matt 25) and the creeds say. Jesus will return to judge the living and the dead – dispatch each to their appropriate eternity and bring down the New Heaven and the New Earth.
    All that other stuff is speculation.
    If you wish to continue we should go to Weekend Word where it became a topic today, so we can keep Michael’s article clean.

  21. David H says:

    #8 I’ll read whatever I want. In my past, whilst in a CC, we were contantly told what was “edifying” to read, to listen to, to watch, etc. Well, I’m too old to have some “pastor” tell me what to do.

  22. John 20:29 says:

    MLD, my first comment was prompted by Michael’s 1st thot this a.m… as much as i love thus nation and the progress we’ve made, it is a fact that ultimately progress erodes and the Church should not think that we can reform a corrupted planet without Jesus Christ here running the show in person, but do church folk avoid living in Christ by looking for signs etc? a bit of a rabbit trail……
    I’m done

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