Amazing Stupidity

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  1. Nomans says:

    This would be really funny if it weren’t so sad…

  2. Drew says:

    I think this blog is above the “King James Only” debate.

    Why aren’t the ODMs going after this guy?

  3. that guy over there says:

    anybody that groups swindoll with wescott and hort will catch my eye.

    but what surprised me was that their scriptural backing was kind of well… biblical. they just don’t have the common sense God gave my hairbrush to know what to do with it.

  4. Xenia says:

    I had a feeling this article was going to make an appearance here today. This “minister” might find himself up close and personal with some flames himself for committing the great sin of desecrating copies of the Holy Bible and slandering Christians. He is an idolator, a bibliolator, no better than the Mexican grandmas who “worship” St. Mary.

    Speaking of ODMs, LHT today posted an article by a guy who admires the writings of Alexander Hislop. Talk about stupidity.

    Crankily yours,

  5. Tim says:

    “We will be serving Bar-b-Que Chicken, fried chicken, and all the sides.”

    Shouldn’t they be serving fire-grilled burgers & s’mores? 😉

  6. Michael says:

    This guy only has 14 members in his almost cult.

    The food sounds great, though!

  7. Tim says:

    Sorry…I couldn’t resist.

    We need to pray for this guy & his church. They desperately need to know what the grace of Jesus Christ is.

  8. Glenn says:

    Whew, I’m sure glad that bluegrass music isn’t on that list.
    I always have been suspicious of Southern Gospel. 😀

  9. Glenn says:

    Hmmmm 😎

  10. Rob Murphy says:

    “The Amazing Grace Baptist Church.”

    Well, I’m amazed.

    “Oh, irony! Oh, no, no, we don’t get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony’s not really a high priority. We haven’t had any irony here since about 1983, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was getting tired of being stared at.”

    Can anyone guess the movie?

    Back to regularly scheduled programming.

    Cringe inducing moment of the day for Michael, ironically would be “cringing” itself. Raises interesting philosophical questions, don’t you think? If a man cringes in post op, do you hear the screams in the woods? Do the trees?

    What kind of “cringe factor” does it take to make a man who was kinda cut in half and glued/stapled/duct taped back together actually want to cringe? Maybe I should stop writing the “cringe” and avoid thinking of sneezing, sit ups, coughing and belly laughs.

    I. can’t. stop. myself.

  11. Nomans says:

    I love Steve Martin….

  12. Michael says:

    Cringing is not allowed for 2 weeks… 🙂

  13. centorian says:

    I would to quote the Master Sergeant that I once worked for, but too many of you would be offended. This is ridiculous. There is nothing in this that has the fragrance of Christ. It is not christian.

  14. Papias says:

    I saw this “pastor” on a clip yesterday. In that clip, he was wearing overalls, which I thought meshed well with the “We is gonna burn books that are satanik in origin.”
    And I heard that he only had 13 members.
    Their sign outside the church said that “3 people saved from the fires of hell this week.”
    KJV only…(sigh)

  15. kevinleroy says:

    centy – good to see you here. I would definitely agree…dude is a crackpot. Once again, we see full well the inadequecy of the TR/KJV. We’re dealing with people who had books (or better Scrolls) of magic/sorcery. So when they became believers in/followers of Jesus they burned their scrolls of magic spells, etc. What an imbicile…

  16. Bob Sweat says:

    A little music for the show.

  17. Bob Sweat says:

    Film from last year.

  18. Patrick says:

    Here you all go, enjoy this 🙂

  19. A E A says:

    What are folks in that outfit (can’t call it a church) allowed to listen to music wise?
    What are they allowed to read? Any encyclopedias? Any fiction?
    Do they speak in Old King James English?

    Poor folks, this is just sad.

  20. Dusty says:

    Speaking of Old King James )…did you know that Thee, Thou, Thy…these pronouns were the familiar form and not the formal form of you. Kind of puts a new light on how I thought of KJ text.

  21. Sister Christian says:

    You know, this is amazingly sad…
    How can someone think this is right?

    Solus Christus keeps coming to my mind when i think of this situation
    and I wonder if she would be encouraging Michael and the other pastors,
    not to ridicule this man publicly,
    instead: to write him in love, privately and explain to him the error of his ways
    Im sure most would think it wouldnt do any good,
    but what if it did?

  22. Babylon's Dread says:

    Well he got noticed and that was the goal…

  23. Sister Christian says:


    are you up for a prayer and praise night soon?
    singing songs and making melodies in our hearts to the Lord
    song s and hymns and spiritual songs!

    How great is our God!

    ooh heres a new one:

    walking in sunlight
    all of my journey,
    over the mountains and through the deep vale

    Jesus has said,
    “Ill never forsake thee”
    a promise divine that never can fail

    heavenly sunlight, heavenly sunlight
    flooding my soul with Glory divine
    hallelujah, I am rejoicing!
    singing his praises
    Jesus is mine!

  24. Psalm62 says:

    well, no one said it, “are they barbequeing their chicken over that fire?

    I actually had a copy of some Shakespeare as a kid and very little to do, so I like the King James Bible – no problem (mostly)

    I’m beginning to appreciate the Muslim protestation: “We’re not all like **that**”

    God does have a refining fire and all the dross (whatever that is) will be burned off – but that’s His job, isn’t it?

  25. Dusty says:

    Sis, always up for a prayer and praise night.

  26. Psalm62 says:

    SC – absolutely right! This man needs prayer. And, maybe, some Christian man to man communication, too.

    love the hymn “Hallelujah, I am rejoicing singing His praises. Jeus in mine” by mutual agreement, but it was His idea first 😉

  27. Psalm62 says:

    Anybody notice this man has some loose bricks? In his fireplace…

  28. Sister Christian says:

    Psalm 62,
    now that you mention it,
    the bricks in his fireplace are a bit wonky

  29. Psalm62 says:

    As I ponder here… avoiding what I should be doing…
    This man has a point. If we let the emotions expressed in secular music supercede our knowledge of what is Truth (&, boy, do people do that), then we may need to turn off the music and refocus…
    I used to turn on rock n roll when driving in heavy traffic as I didn’t dance well with cars – but, once I was parked I couldn’t stand the stuff, it scrambled my thot processing…

  30. Sister Christian says:

    so good to hearest thou sayest that!
    we shall have to do one soon 8)

  31. James Downing says:

    Just another reason i am proud to be from North Carolina!

  32. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    “And, maybe, some Christian man to man communication, too.” Is that like a kick in the butt? 😉

  33. Babylon's Dread says:

    So young to have stopped learning… He will never progress past this moment… dead while he lives…

  34. philbertz says:

    any idiot can gather a following of greater fools.


  35. Psalm62 says:

    MLD 🙂

    not sure just what it is he needs – a least some prayer ❓

  36. Nomans says:

    Urgent prayer.
    On our way out of the hospital, Max (five year old) got his hand stuck in the elevator door. We’re in the ER waiting to see the doctor and get an Xray. Sam, Seth and Jack are in the van because Seth can’t be exposed to any …disease. He hasn’t an immune system right now because of his anti-rejection med. Thanks

  37. bishopdave says:

    Well, the KJV originally was an attempt at being in the language of common men.

  38. Xenia says:

    The thee’s and thou’s and the “eth” endings were already becoming archaic by 1611 but were used to give the translation a lofty feel.

  39. Ken says:

    I feel lofty and light and gay! (as in happy) Like a six year old soaring high above the bright blue Colorado sky.

  40. Cash says:

    Mmm..that food sounds tasty. I wonder if they’d mind if I bring my Ipod?

  41. centorian says:

    nomans…. praying…..

  42. Nomans says:

    Thank you, Centy.

  43. Tim says:

    Praying here for Max.

  44. Linnea says:

    Oy-vey! Maybe this is what happened to the .com PP site! 😆

  45. Linnea says:

    Nomans…also prayed for Seth. Oden and his family have sure been through it lately.

  46. Drew says:

    This is of subject but I saw a new mega-church/multi site video pastor tonight and I was wondering what any of you have heard.

    His name Bil Cornelius and you can’t miss it. There is Bil Cornelius TV, Ministries, Blog, and such.

    He is the Pastor of Bay Area Fellowship in TX and is on video at several off-site campuses.

    As far as an internet search I can only find everyone thinks he is, a nice guy, you just like him, a gifted leader… basically no one says a bad thing about him or his teachings.

    Him and his wife are a perfect looking “surfer dude” couple with children.

    Oh and as far as his teaching just so so. I happened to watch his teaching on tithing, which basically said Christians need to give 10% cash to the church. Not very studious kind of manipulative.

    What I am curious about is where did this dude come from? Another SBC Ed Young type guy?

  47. Nene says:

    Just saw the prayer request for Max..oh Normans, if you find out anything, let us know..Praying for peace, healing, and a good sleep tonight…

  48. London says:

    Flip, I’m reading that book too.
    The big read and all that…

  49. JimB says:

    Wow, there are an awfully lot of good men, books, and Bibles in that bag that they say is from Satan. A verse comes to my mind (NASB version):

    1 John 2:19: “They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.”

  50. Joe Marino says:

    All parts of the body are necessary… this guy just happens to be the butt

  51. Jessica Menn says:

    The guy looks like a young Coleman Francis, but it seems he is not impacting the world in as positive a way.

  52. Tim says:

    Drew –
    I just happened to look up Bil Cornelius from your post. Neither his blog nor the church website says too much about him. But I did think it was interesting that one of his multi-site campuses is “Bay Area San Marcos.” If you know Texas geography, San Marcos is pretty far away from anything looking like a bay! I gotta think people gave some pretty funny looks when they put up their sign there.

  53. Reuben says:

    I like the ESV, NIV, NKJV, AMP, etc…

    …it was not until a couple of days ago that I realized that I was going to hell for it. I told him so, but apparently he counted that as one of his three saved from hell…

    …so theres that.

  54. brian says:

    I was thinking on the balloon baby, some say it may be a hoax, there seems to be some anger conversing this, if it is true. I dont get it, if it is a hoax the parents were working a unique angel and should be praised for such creativity. If it is not a hoax and the parents were not involved in the hoax, then I understand the anger, not taking the apologetic and cheap sound byte rhetoric. I always found this rather strange in my evangelical experience ” the ends always justifies the needs, always”. I do understand that, it is one reason I do not get totally ticked at TB and other such folks. They are working the business, that is always what matters. Always. I would add, it matters even to a pathological sense, we should always seek to be effective, efficient, etc. I know I lack spiritual understanding, but I have never understood that.

  55. brian says:

    “Well he got noticed and that was the goal…”

    That is always the goal, this phrase wraps up my 29 years of being a Christian. I do struggle with that, but I am sure I am deceived in some way.

  56. Captain Kevin says:

    “Amazing Grace? Baptist Church”

    Wonder if this guy knows the origin of the original melody of Amazing Grace.

  57. Mary Mary says:

    There are a few authors in there that I wouldn’t mind resigning to the rubbish, but bibles other than the AV…how ridiculous. Does he know the bible was written in Hebrew and Greek and not King James English??!!

    I’m glad he doesn’t have access to our music collection – the bonfire would last all night – and I hate to think of those toxic fumes!!

  58. Augustine says:

    Oh, the irony of the “Amazing Grace” Baptist Church adhering to rampant legalism. Whenever I read of this type of thing I wonder to which version of the KJV they adhere and whether they consider my Reina-Valera to be as Satanic as my ESV’s.

  59. Augustine says:

    “Wonder if this guy knows the origin of the original melody of Amazing Grace.”

    Not likely. Or that the spirit and the lyrical content make it a worship song, not the style of music. If you take the original musical arrangement of “Come Thou Fount” and add lyrics about picking up girls in a bar is it still anointed? If you take the lyric from the same song and arrange it as a rock song, does it lose its anointing?

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