Does Holy Water Give You Holy Fingers?

( |o )====::: says:

I think, according to the whole idea of who we are in Jesus, our fingers, indeed our whole bodies, minds, souls & spirits are “holy”, so no additional blessings or incantations are needed

Martin Luther's Disciple says:

There is something wrong when this was allowed to take an anti RCC direction.

Now can’t you see how bad they are? Not only do they steal you money, but they dress like the RCC and do their rituals.

Throckmorton should have stuck to the story.

Martin Luther's Disciple says:

We will see how his commenters play out. Right now there is a lot of catholic mocking going on.

London says:

Holy water gives you wet fingers

Martin Luther's Disciple says:

God’s word added to the water is what makes it Holy Water. This is the case in baptism – no one says the water by itself is anything other than water – but add God’s word to it – well, Voila! Holy Water.

Hey hey, look at all the evangelicals who run to the Jordan to get baptized there as if that is special. LOL

Martin Luther's Disciple says:

“#9-nope, that’s wrong …”
Narrow minded people who are not open to the opinions of others.

However holy water is just plain tap water – mixed with the word of God. But since several hear have expressed that “real” baptism is the dehydrated version – that is understandable and since several of the same do not believe God uses physical elements for any worthy venture, the whole discussion is moot.

But hey, we are just a bunch of people just floating through space.

Steve Wright says:

several hear have expressed that “real” baptism is the dehydrated version
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I have not once seen anyone (including me and I am one of the chief proponents) use the qualifier “real” baptism…not once…not one person…and certainly not several.

Continually misrepresenting those who disagree with you might be a sign of the weakness of your own argument. 🙂

We do say that Spirit baptism should precede water…and that Spirit baptism is the mark of salvation (again, before water). However, that does not make water baptism any less “real” – it is different.

We have a Spiritual birth and a physical birth. The physical birth is hardly not “real” – but one can have the physical birth and never have the Spiritual birth. Just like one can have the water baptism and never have the Spiritual baptism

Martin Luther's Disciple says:

And you can’t say that you haven’t expressed that the spirit baptism isn’t the “real” one. Your claim is that you must have spirit baptism to be saves and although you don’t come out and say it, but you do believe that water baptism is optional in that if you choose not to be water baptized you have not lost anything.

But this should not be about baptism here – it was about whether or not water can be made holy water.

Bob says:

I agree that “holy water” can be just about any drinkable water including tap. I think MLD is making a subtle reference to being “washed by the word” from the text and not baptism.

My question was what makes water, the liquid type, holy or set apart from any other water? There’s no biblical reference to show such an idea.

The water in the desert was purified, made drinkable, by throwing something in it. So was it the something thrown in, the action of obedience, or something else that made it drinkable?

Bob says:

Em

Could faith be nothing more than a mist of idle thoughts until it’s tested by being obedient?

Hmmmm ……

Faith works

Hmmmmm…….

Bob says:

MLD

Who said faith wasn’t good and by your comment it appears you don’t understand the purpose for have faith tested (something clearly mentioned in the scriptures).

Someone did say no works means no, as in dead, faith.

But we’ve been down this path before, haven’t we!

Let’s be clear salvation is through the grace of God alone and always has been from the beginning. Salvation never comes or came via works, is that clear enough so that debate doesn’t go ugly early.

Yes! Thank you!