Kingdoms Fall: Duane W.H. Arnold, PhD

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15 Responses

  1. greg says:

    Excellent piece Duane

  2. Duane Arnold says:


    Many thanks…

  3. Michael says:

    The more we live as citizens of another kingdom, the more this one appears like it.

    Unfortunately, most prefer this one to the one to come…

  4. Duane Arnold says:


    “That city is not only our destination, it should also be a present reality…” That we don’t grasp it as our present reality is the problem…

  5. Steve says:

    Duane, I love this but I have a question. What do you mean by present reality? We cannot see, touch, taste, hear or smell this City of God or can we? Yes, it’s a destination and our hope but when you say it should be our present reality I’m scratching my head. The only thing that keeps me going is hope in the future because unless you are on some kind of acid trip the present reality doesn’t look very appealing. Am I missing something?

  6. Duane Arnold says:


    “In contrast, the City of God has God himself as the object of its love. The citizens of the City of God live not to dominate but to live lives of charity and of service towards all. They live with the hope of pilgrims traversing a world that is not theirs.”

    That is for the here and now… it’s how we can (to paraphrase) see, touch, taste, hear and smell this City of God…

  7. Linn says:

    When the church (local and universal) demonstrates the love of God on earth, we are demonstrating what the City of God looks like. At least, that is how I understand it. God works abundantly in our lives as we are loving and serving others. It’s the idea of being in the world and not of the world, I believe.

  8. Tim says:

    Amen Duane. Excellent.
    American Christian’s need this eternal, biblical perspective hammered into them. It seems to me this is the ‘natural’ way for Spirit filled people to think.

  9. Duane Arnold says:


    That’s it… if we can learn to do it.

  10. Duane Arnold says:


    Many thanks…

  11. Kevin H says:

    Very well said, Duane. We should be charitable, serving, and grieving with those in our city, and by doing so we are living in the City.

  12. Duane Arnold says:

    Kevin H

    The proof of our “citizenship”…

  13. Shawn says:

    The way I perceive it is that the City of Man is almost exclusively focused in the immediate and temporal. This might be why power plays such a prominent role in its overall structure, ethos, and perpetuation.

    This does not mean that the City of God is a powerless one either it is just that it’s true power is counterintuitive to the City of Man. The city of God while never ignoring the immediate and temporal forever has its gaze set, heart fastened, and will affixed to that which is eternal. It takes place in what I will call punctuated abbreviated anomalies. It is when the City of God manifests itself within the City of Man through the service and sacrifice of those who have caught a glimpse of that eternal, abiding City.

    We do well to note that while these two kingdoms can run concurrently it is wise to be on guard from the slow and subtle draw of the City of Man to mar and distract the City of Man from its true and highest purpose.

    Since these are my waking thoughts for the day please forgive any heresy, whether grammatical or spiritual, but a I offer a hearty thanks for getting my rusty cogs moving upwards to start the day.

  14. Shawn says:

    The last sentence to the 2nd to last paragraph should read *the City of God from its true and highest purpose.

  15. Duane Arnold says:


    “…the slow and subtle draw of the City of Man to mar and distract the City of God from its true and highest purpose…”

    That, indeed, is the danger…

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