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  1. victorious says:

    Michael, Amen to all of this. If we are to some degree responding to His here and now presence and trying to translate that gift into some measure of good for our neighbor than we are abiding in Christ and will always be ready to meet and be greeted by Him whether by rapture, the acts of the anti-christ or arriving at the end of our days in our 1.0 bodies.

    And you have become an overcomer and will persevere to the end for having remained a faithful Vikings fan in spite of the trauma of Fran Tarkenton. Lol!

  2. Michael says:

    vic,

    Thank you, well said…and that’s St. Francis here… 🙂

  3. Xenia says:

    The reason I get annoyed by this is because it shows a lack of gratitude for all the God has given us. How many times have I heard people, when experiencing a mild, when compared to most things, inconvenience say they wish the Lord would come back and save them from the duress. It’s childish.

    Now I myself am anticipating the Lord’s return with joy, but I am also thankful for all the good gifts He has given me. When I think of all the miseries humanity has endured over the millennia, wishing the Lord would return to rescue me from some minor discomfort such as we experience in the West seems whiney.

    Again, when the Lord comes it will be great. I am not anti-anticipation of the Lord’s return, but I hope it will be for the joy in seeing my Lord and not because the price of gas has risen and it’s more than I can bear.

  4. Michael says:

    Xenia,

    Well said, my friend.

    Like you, I am looking forward eagerly to His return…but I suspect I’ll go to Him before He comes for all…

  5. Duane Arnold says:

    I confess the Lord’s return every Sunday: “He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.” I say it right before confessing that the Holy Spirit gives life, that we are to worship, and that the Church is central to our faith…

    Makes sense to me…

  6. JTK says:

    “Awful” is a matter of perspective…and people get very upset when I note that historically, this is one of the most comfortable, prosperous, healthy times in human history“

    YESSSS!

    I want to shout this from the roof tops!

    See, Michael, your ideas DO have influence

  7. Michael says:

    JTK,

    Thank you for always being an encourager…it matters.

  8. jtk says:

    “No”
    “I don’t know”
    “I doubt it”

    I wonder if any of those phrases are more effective than the next.

    I have relatives who are huge rapture ready fans.
    In 22 years, I’ve yet to figure out anything that works in even getting through to them.

    The last time I tried discussing evidence, they said the matter was settled for them.

    It’s kinda like Qanon…which they’re sympathetic for.

    And they keep sending the stuff.

    My latest attempt: These guys who’ve predicted stuff that doesn’t happen I won’t listen to.

    I just scratch my head.

    Maybe I’ll just go back to “We aren’t going to talk about this for awhile…”

  9. jtk says:

    And I’ll keep TRYING with you….😂

  10. Dread says:

    Jesus came back soon…

    On the third day

    In a heaven and earth body…

    They did not recognize him until he broke bread

    He had promised he would do that with them ‘in the kingdom”

    He came and so did his kingdom… but we have to have revelation to see him

    and yes he will yet come again… we who know him have work to do… more bread to break

  11. Shawn says:

    I am debating whether or not your response to these matters is better than my gracious nod and saying something insincere like, “thats interesting.”
    However, I guess being born into the kingdom a mere two years before the whole Y2K debacle and living through the Left Behind craze has left me somewhat jaded in these matters. I don’t understand how those who went whole hog into Y2K latch unto the next wave of speculative nonsense. Also I find that at the core of most people I know who hold to a pre-trib rapture their belief in it is more existential and political than Theological or Biblical. Also as a side note it is never the best idea to build a system of Doctrine around an isolated passage of Scripture like 1 Thessalonians 4:18. Or maybe it’s just this pounding migraine talking for me.

  12. Michael says:

    Shawn,

    These beliefs became identity markers for people…and provided a sense of superiority for them.
    they give me a headache too…hope you feel better soon…

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