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  1. Dan from Georgia says:

    I think the second link (Warren Throckmorton) is broken..links to your Calvin’s Corner page.

  2. Michael says:

    Thanks…fixed it.

  3. descended says:

    Well, Jerusalem…

    Awful perplexity. To bless Israel or not? To support the Pretrib and kingdom-now aspirations of the evangelicals however misguided or to succumb, again, to the block of Islamist nations? Whatever happens from here is prophetically significant, though it’s not ” this is that which is spoken of”. If these pronouncements have a massive effect on the way things are, it will make me wonder anew who or what John saw as Rome in his Revelation.

    I wonder if, in some respects, we are repeating the dilemma of Balaam?

  4. Michael says:

    I am compelled again to note that I’m a huge fan of Russell Moore.
    Evangelicals should declare him bishop of all things evangelical…he exemplifies the best of what evangelicalism can be.

  5. Michael says:

    The link about younger Christians attitudes about Israel is telling.
    I’ve said it before…I believe the younger generations are rejecting the whole eschatological scheme that has dominated American evangelicalism for the last fifty years.

  6. bob1 says:

    Looks like Moore should take over the mantle of the late John Stott. The NY Times declared him the “pope of evangelicalism.”

  7. John 20:29 says:

    #3 – “Whatever happens from here is prophetically significant……”
    humanly speaking one could argue that the Jews abandoned Jerusalem when they fled the country (for a number of reasons IMV) some 2,000 years ago… but what one cannot deny is that the nation has re-formed there and that Jerusalem was the capitol of their historic claim to the land… one can sympathize with the Palestinians, not only for their loss of turf, but also for the recent historical exploitation of their plight by their Arab neighbors – will the U.S. build that embassy in Jerusalem? from here i doubt it as what i see is such determination to remove Trump from the office of president by some power brokers (the unknown “they”) that, i think if all else fails he will be assassinated or incapacitated… as was Kennedy… i am naive enough to believe that there are unseen powers behind the thrones of the world…
    can the Christian make a case for the re-establishment of the Jewish nation as prophetic and indicative of the world moving into its final drama? i think that is a sustainable argument, but can we be adamant? NO… in such a time as you think not, Christ returns… my late husband speculated that could be interpreted as a time when no one was thinking such a thing possible
    God turns and overturns and a 1,000 years are a day on His clock… that said, if one believes as i do in an extreme tribulation period before Christ’s return, the removal of the Church before the wrath of God described in our Scriptures… one can certainly make the case… granted it’s a simple minded view, not as nuanced an interpretation as some previous Biblical scholars have constructed…
    just sayin and pondering things spiritual and things political – things way over my head and above my pay grade this cold morning 🙂

  8. John 20:29 says:

    loved John Stott – will have to look into Russell Moore

  9. Michael says:

    I was going to comment on Trump, but thought better of it.
    I want him gone, but only through the vote.

  10. Duane Arnold says:

    #9 Michael

    Very fascinating… here I am trying to write about heresy, and you just have to toss a bright shiny object in front of me…

  11. Muff Potter says:

    “I was going to comment on Trump, but thought better of it.
    I want him gone, but only through the vote.”

    Impeachment is looming on the horizon Michael.
    And it will likely be a bi-partisan affair.

  12. Jean says:

    Repeating error one hundred times, or every day, is still error. Error is never correct, no matter how often one tries to slip it into every discussion.

  13. Michael says:


    What error?

  14. Michael says:


    I think impeachment will not only not happen, but that it would create something akin to civil war if it did.

    The man was duly elected by the people of this country and that has to be respected.

    He needs to be removed in the same fashion.

  15. The New Victor says:

    The desire for impeachment is more of an emotional response. My ex said, “he needs to be impeached!” I asked, “for what?” “Because of the things he says!”

    They are feeding the hoi polloi, same as usual.

  16. The New Victor says:

    I’m not sure what the motivation was to rewrite Proverbs 31, other than from an SJW point-of-view. I don’t see where Proverbs 31 is demeaning to woman; quite the opposite, and was spoken to King Lemuel by his mother.

    “29“Many women do noble things,
    but you surpass them all.”
    30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
    but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised.”

    The re-write substitutes “noble character” and “noble” for being “wise?” No wonder verse 30 wasn’t even rewritten, but removed altogether.

  17. John 20:29 says:

    #9 – fascinating stuff indeed… but there’s a voice in my head that keeps asking, “when in your life has the majority ever been right about anything?”

    somewhere in the past – dunno when, but long passed – this nation took a turn that, even though we think we have government of, by and for the people, i don’t think we do… perhaps, it is due to the size of the nation now? dunno… i do have a solution to the Federal income tax problem, tho – quit taxing the citizens as individuals and start taxing the 50 States 🙂

    pray for the nation, for those in authority over us… even when we don’t trust them, eh?

  18. John 20:29 says:

    point of fact (i think) impeachment is not removal from office… remember Bill?

  19. The New Victor says:

    Think of “impeachment” as an “indictment.”

    Years ago, the San Jose Mercury News used to print letters to the editor by a man who fancied himself smart. I remember seeing two previous letters. His last letter, which the Merc printed, he argued that Clinton was shafted by the Republican Chief Justice (if I recall how his reasoning went). I wrote a letter in reply that since Renhquist was the judge who presided over the very short trial in the Senate [after impeachment by The House] that it was actually correct to say that the so-called “Republican” or “Conversative” justice presided over Clinton’s aquittal.

    The LTTE section editor must have done his or her fact checking, because they printed my reply.

  20. descended says:

    The nation was actively being divided under Obama long before Trump. Nice try on the part of Lifeway, though.

  21. The problem is looking for a savior when we already have one. Dare I say idolatry over first Obama and now Trump? What are we in for next? What’s coming after the baby boomer presidents?

  22. descended says:

    A situation where were begging someone to lead because no one wants to expose themselves or their families to hypocritical public shame?

  23. CM says:

    A few thoughts here:

    Regarding Impeachment:

    In the history of the US, there have been 19 impeachments (i.e., impeachment articles passed in the House for a trial in the Senate). Of those, 8 were convicted and removed from office. The impeachment in the House is akin to a criminal indictment, while the trial in the Senate is akin to the trial. Bill Clinton was acquitted in the trial and served out the rest of his term.

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