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  1. Josh the Baptist says:

    Haven’t read Jacobs prophecy yet, but I’m betting it is blessings and higher levels of anointing. Just a sneaking suspicion, but I’ll read and see if I am wrong.

  2. Josh the Baptist says:

    I was close.

  3. Michael says:

    Religious flatulence…

  4. Josh the Baptist says:


  5. Michael says:

    “On the Hebrew calendar, 2018 is the year 5778 and, if we see the pictorial emphasis from this, 5778 forms a gate. In fact, this gate can look kind of like a bridal canopy. So, as I was asking the Lord what is going to happen in 2018, I felt the Holy Spirit saying, “It’s the year to possess the gates of your future.”

    Now, that took some imagination and a whole bag of beans…

  6. Josh the Baptist says:

    Yeah, and then the whole thing is based of the undeniable truth that 5778 looks like a gate?!?

    Which has nothing to do with Hebrew numerology, by the way.

  7. Michael says:

    Face it, Josh..we’re mockers.

    The gate of suddenness will not swing open for our kind…

  8. Josh the Baptist says:

    I can live with that.

  9. Anne says:

    Kudos to CT for printing the Ed Seltzer unambiguous response to situations surrounding Andy Savage and Hightower Church. May his words resound clearly and powerfully throughout the hearts of all who claim to follow Jesus.

  10. Babylon's Dread says:

    Cindy is my good friend. I do love her, as her ministry in my life in 1997 was life changing. She is weird and odd and offensive to many. Thanks for the link. I usually do not care much for her political ramblings but the woman I know is fabulous and interesting and so passionate for Christ and his people. Of course it is known here that I am a very un-zionistic charismatic so some of her prophetic ramblings just sound like prevarications to me.

    I will say this… the charismatic prophets told us about Trump’s election and about what kind of leader he would be … they were right that time.

    We all have odd family members.

    The times are here in which we need our family, because in an ever-rapid way Christians are becoming a hate group — even in our evaluations of each other. I think I will bless the smells and bells, the fundies, the whatever it means to be evangelicals, the high/low church, the house church and the un-house-trained church.

    Jesus Tent Dread

  11. Michael says:


    “The times are here in which we need our family, because in an ever-rapid way Christians are becoming a hate group — even in our evaluations of each other. ”

    This is truth…even though i have no clue how you defend the nonsense these people spout, I do not hold you accountable for it.

  12. Babylon's Dread says:

    I think America should be on this list of countries that … Cause Christian persecution.

    Our policies in the Middle East drive radical Islam and everywhere Islam is radicalized it is hard to be a Christian. Further, we destabilize nation after nation Bush and Obama were horrible in this regard, and those destabilized nations become deathbeds for our family.

    Pressuring countries to stop persecution is not enough. We have to stop creating states that are impossible for Christians.

    I would love to see some serious research on this.

  13. Josh the Baptist says:

    Stetzer has been on-point lately.

  14. Babylon's Dread says:


    I know, on both counts.

    I sometimes hold my nose in my own family gatherings.

  15. JoelG says:

    “even in our evaluations of each other.”

    Amen, BD

  16. Xenia says:

    Some people believe in the Rapture
    Some people believe in the Sacraments
    Some people believe in Inerrancy….

    It’s all good, right? God wants these differences.


    On this blog there are certain kinds of Christians that may be targeted for insults.

  17. Michael says:


    The intervention of the U.S. that destabilizes other nations goes way back before Bush.

    We ignore the calamities we created in Latin America, then demand our own borders be sacred….

  18. Babylon's Dread says:


    You are correct. In the name of our national security we have become the most violent aggressive uncaring power on the planet and we have lost all claim of moral high ground in this regard.

    I am so often embarrassed at what we justify in the name of our own safety

  19. Michael says:


    I don’t believe any of us have empirical evidence to support our doctrinal differences.
    We all claim the Bible, many of us claim tradition and the Bible, but our differences still exist.

    We can empirically judge published prophecies…they are either true or false.

    The percentage of false and the lack of accountability for that makes the practice worthy of insult.

  20. Michael says:


    Thank you for # 18…

  21. Josh the Baptist says:

    Robert Jeffress is SBC and I hate the stuff he says worse than any of the “prophetic” group. So, there’s that.

  22. Michael says:


    I will amen that…but you also have Russell Moore, whom I loveth…

  23. Josh the Baptist says:

    Yep. I can’t condemn a whole group over one person’s problems. We all know Dread is good folks.

  24. Duane Arnold says:

    “The world is going to hell. There are false teachers everywhere. Our enemies are getting ready to stream across our borders. The government has lost any virtue it might have had in the past. The young don’t respect their elders…”

    Yep, you guessed it… I’m reading Augustine again.

    Good to know the Church will survive… even in our day.

  25. Anne says:

    When it comes to prophets, I’m always glad the bar is lower than it was in OT times for their rates of reliability & accountability. That applies to a lot of OT prescriptives which is why I’m loathe to see legislators try to use it as a standard for general law making ?

  26. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Cindy Jacobs is a part of the Apostolic Counsel of Prophetic Elders where they sit around and pool their ideas of what God has to say for the coming year – probably by a show of hands.

  27. DavidM says:

    Amen to Ed Stetzer.

    I am glad that you put “prophet” Cindy in quotation marks. There is nothing prophetic about her nonsense.

  28. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Speaking of lady prophets, I have always held a fancy to this one;

  29. Dan from Georgia says:

    Boy If that doesn’t exemplify true historic Christianity, then I don’t know what does…


  30. The New Victor says:

    MLD, I can’t unsee that 8^0

    When I was a teen, a couple took me to a local small Pentecostal church. At one service, they were slaying people in the spirit. They kept trying to get me. I didn’t feel it. The guy kept pushing on my forehead harder and I thought, “I’m going down if nothing other than to end this.”

  31. Dan form Georgia says:

    Went to a local community church a few years back and similar crap was taking place…first the “worship team” played the same song for close to an hour (no, it wasn’t “I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever”, but might as well have been)…did I mention that they dimmed the lights and closed the blinds on the windows in the sanctuary?….then after close to an hour some woman got up on stage and started testifying…

    And then the screaming ensued from said woman.

    That was more than enough.

    We walked out.

    Wife nearly got a migraine in that service…said migraine went away when we were outside.

    On the way out one usher said to me..”leaving so soon?”

    Boy if there was one time I REALLY wish I had a zinger on hand…

  32. CM says:

    But how about this…

    5778 converted into binary yields 0001011010010010. There are 6 ones in that number which add up to 6, which is the number of man not God. Which means man is striving to open the gates….

    You get the idea….

  33. bob1 says:

    Honey Boo-Boo for prophet.

    Say her name 3 times quickly without laughing.

  34. bob1 says:

    Also, Winky Pratney

  35. John 20:29 says:

    The link to the article on the Branch Davidian holocaust is worth a ponder… why did the government and the FBI think they had a license to do what they did to this sorry cult? Should all of Christianity worry about such a threat? Or maybe just us evangelicals. LOL…

  36. John 20:29 says:

    Believe it or not I saw the #35 link on – gasp – Fox and the report was sympathetic … I think we need to fear mindless bureaucracy more than we realize…

  37. Dan from Georgia says:

    Michael..that is way more than not ok…on Martin Luther King, JR day no less.

    I wonder if millstones are being prepared…

  38. Muff Potter says:

    Michael @ #35:

    Even the heathen with what’s written on their hearts will know that this is just plain wrong.

    I can’t wait to hear Robert Jeffress (mega-biggie-pastor-in-Dallas and one of Trump’s spiritual advisors) try to defend it and make it right.

  39. Dan from Georgia says:

    Muff Potter…

    RJ is one of those I was thinking about in #38

  40. John 20:29 says:

    Muff, what they will probably use as a defense is that the man went on the list during the Obama admin’ which is true, but what the political machinations are doing in all sides is inexcusable. …. What is so complicated about a plan to put the children who came here and have grown up here (Jorge came in at age 10) on a plan to citizenship?
    Or do it seems from here… dunno

  41. brian says:

    Jeffress and Jacobs are working the business and business is really good. Of course, that is all that matters, whatever damage they do to people is completely irrelevant if the fact of a continuing and growing revenue stream. That is “holy”, I guess.

  42. Outside T. Fold says:

    Glad for the inclusion of the Kings Method link. For the past year, I’ve been attending monthly nonviolence workshops in L.A. held by Rev. James Lawson, a contemporary of Dr. King. Lawson brought the benefit of his study in India on Gandhi’s non-violence love-in-action to the movement led by Rosa Parks and Dr. King. Lawson also was the organizer of the Nashville lunch counter sit-ins that resulted in desegregating downtown Nashville.

    At a recent workshop, we watched a movie about the bus boycott. (“Boycott,” available on streaming HBO.) The list displayed at the linked article is remarkable for its discipline. The movie showed acts in retaliation against the boycotters — Dr. King’s house was bombed, a man’s separate garage was on fire, and the white firefighters on scene stood and watched it burn; no intervention.

    So that list of how to behave in victory impressed me deeply.

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