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  1. Kevin H says:

    Get yourself prepared again this week for your Vikings to lose. 🙂

  2. Kevin H says:

    Of course, I will be doing the same with my Eagles. Our heartbreaks haven’t been much different. 🙂

  3. filbertz says:

    regarding #10, your comment rings true. I wonder if we will eventually reflect that our experience in the church was being taught not to sin instead of how to live.

  4. filbertz says:

    and as to your #7, the treatment of the Saint’s safety Williams, who missed the tackle on Diggs has been savaged by people from both sides and viewers in general. It is difficult enough to deal with an error of that degree committed in public, but I pray the piling on doesn’t make it impossible.

  5. Xenia says:

    Vikings vs Saints? Sounds like the raid on Lindesfarne.

  6. Michael says:

    “I wonder if we will eventually reflect that our experience in the church was being taught not to sin instead of how to live.”

    That is worth thinking about…

  7. Michael says:


    I need to learn to hope again, so we’ll have to clip Eagle wings.. 🙂

  8. John 20:29 says:

    thinking on the thinking above – Michael’s and the commenters… #10 reminds me that fear always lurks in the background of most people and we go to great lengths to run from it… but perhaps, it has its good side? dunno

    as to the missed tackle yesterday… here’s what i heard from a football player – FWIW… the Saints were expecting the receiver to run out of bounds and the main concern was to not get called for pass interference (moving the ball even closer for the field goal kick, if the clock didn’t run out – either way they’d won the game in their minds)… it was totally unexpected that Diggs would be able to pivot around his arm planted in the turf, not step out of bounds and continue on
    no, i didn’t watch the whole game, but saw the last few minutes – WOW – personally, i think this win was God’s gift to Michael, who did not desert his post yesterday 🙂

  9. John 20:29 says:

    i think the Saints are named after those who go marching in, not those who are devoted to prayer LOL … but #5 was funny and i learned something…
    for $4,400 double occupancy i can take a six day walking tour of the beautiful location… and it does sound beautiful, but at my age and stage, however, somebody telling me every morning to get up and start walking would not be something i’d pay money to do 🙂

  10. Michael says:

    personally, i think this win was God’s gift to Michael, who did not desert his post yesterday ?

    Well, not completely.

    I was sneaking peeks on my phone…turned it off when the Saints took the lead with 25 seconds left.

    A couple minutes later I couldn’t understand why my phone was blowing up… 🙂

  11. bob1 says:

    The last 2-3 minutes of that game was unlike anything I’ve seen in a long time. What a finish!

  12. dusty says:

    Good thoughts today Michael. Your not alone.

  13. John 20:29 says:

    #10 – well then, maybe God was punishing you for peeking. ?
    Anybody who has an interest in football was “blessed” to catch the end of yesterday’s game – did I hear correctly that the Vikings were playing with a back up QB? (I’ll check it out online)
    Pondering #5 in the thinking list… ? …. Why is it better to have to plow through hundreds of pages of printed material when doing research? Is this in a theological context?

  14. JoelG says:

    Em yes I’m sure it’s theological. I’m guilty of this. But at the same time I think as long as you trust the author of the 4 paragraphs on any particular subject it’s better than nothing.

    In addition, I think “research” entails life experiences in addition to diving into 400 page books.

  15. Michael says:


    I have a decent understanding of one issue that is pressing on us as a society today.

    I’ve read over a hundred books on the topic and as many white papers.

    I still would not call myself an expert…and I get damn weary of arguing with people who get all their info from partisan web sites.

  16. Dan from Georgia says:

    Re #5, we folks today (many of us anyways) seem to have little patience in thorough study of a subject. The web makes it so much more easier and quick to counter someone with a very short counterpoint, as well as a zinger or two. However, and we know this full well, the web is largely opposed to research papers and journals…we’ve all heard the phrase “I saw it on the internet, so it must be true…” All kinds of crap can be had on the internet, and all kinds of people can be had…

    A co-worker is absolutely convinced of many conspiracy theories (eg., 911 was an inside job, the Illuminati, vaccines are horrible, etc etc etc). She’s smart, but I just can’t understand why there is such a lack of respect for research using qualified materials, and a lack of discernment in research. I know more than a few people who are flat out gullible when it comes to “easy” data found on the internet and popular books/magazines.

  17. Dan from Georgia says:

    Not to say that I’m all that in regards to research using well-qualified materials…just an observation and venting moment for me there…

    I work in a field that is heavily based on refereed research (atmospheric sciences), and I certainly won’t claim to be an expert on issues like climate change, but I do get bothered when people use “talking points” from Fox News or MSNBC or Al Gore to back up their opinions. Besides, a photo of a polar bear stranded on an ice chunk is no more proof of global warming as is the idea that it’s cold in your neighborhood is proof that no global warming is taking place (both of those are examples of arguments for/against global warming that populate so much discussion today).

    diatribe done…

    Go Vikes!

  18. JoelG says:

    I admit to having the attention span of a nat. But I don’t claim to be an expert on anything. When it comes to theology, though, I think the Holy Spirit gives us discernment whether we have a PhD or GED. And this discernment allows us to “stand on the shoulders” of more knowledgeable / experienced folks we trust.

  19. bob1 says:


    I’ve found this little book to be very helpful in wading through and making sound judgments about what’s being offered…

  20. JoelG says:

    Thanks Bob. I will take a look.

    I think it’s easy to forget that the majority of Jesus’ original 12 disciples fishermen… simple blue collar guys. Not exactly scholars….

  21. JoelG says:

    Oops…. I meant WERE fishermen

  22. Dan from Georgia says:

    Good points JoelG!

  23. Eric says:

    Righteous Lot – like the Heb 11 hall of fame including such dodgy guys as Samson and Jephthah.

  24. David eikelbarner says:

    Michael says:
    January 15, 2018 at 10:09 am

    “I wonder if we will eventually reflect that our experience in the church was being taught not to sin instead of how to live.”

    That is worth thinking about.

    #6 post Michael is awesome!

    A book should be written on that subject.


  25. John 20:29 says:

    Joel and Michael, thanks for the input on research and yes, it is true if one is going to take a stand on an issue, rather than just a passing interest, one had better have as much knowledge of it as the issue demands…
    all i can say for certain about the climate is that it’s changing, BTW … i lean towards cycles rather than man made weather disasters (we may be doing that, too)

    when it comes to the Faith there is so much to learn if one is a teacher, but still i think God purposely made the basics simple and straightforward for the pew sitters

  26. Babylon's Dread says:

    Remember Lot’s wife… used to be my favorite verse…

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