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  1. Kevin H says:

    Okay, you all know which link I have to comment on. 🙂

    The author of the second to last link on the list is most definitely right. The Eagles are an idol for many in Philadelphia. In many ways, the Eagles do bring together the community and culture in our city and surrounding areas, and that is a good thing. But as the author points out in the article via Tim Keller, idols are often good things that become the ultimate thing.

    The Eagles are most definitely the ultimate thing to many fans in Philadelphia. Sadly so, actions would seem to indicate this is even the case with some Christians. I have to fight off the temptations myself at times (even more so when it comes to the Phillies for me.)

    So in Philadelphia, it’s the Eagles. In many other cultures it is a myriad of other things that become idols. Often good things that become the ultimate thing. Can even happen in the church. Lord, open our eyes to such.

  2. Michael says:


    You got a shout out on the podcast this week… 🙂

    I can see the authors point…but I also wonder if it’s plucking low hanging fruit.

    I didn’t worship Keenum…but came close with Tarkenton… 🙂

  3. Kevin H says:

    Oh, it was definitely low hanging fruit.

    My bigger concern, which the author didn’t really address much is when those idols enter into the church. Those who aren’t in the church or even have any strong religious affiliation of any kind I would almost expect to latch on to something else. The Eagles are an easy thing to latch onto here. Those in the church should be able to identify the dangers of latching on to something else through words and action as highest priority. Unfortunately, we can sometimes be blind to it.

    I’ll have to listen for that shout-out to find out if it’s good or bad. 🙂

  4. Steve says:

    The Eagles in the Superbowl is a wonderful thing! Go Eagles! I’m no football fan but this has finally got me to finally watch a football game. I have no idol here but this is exciting and its just great for our community.

  5. John 20:29 says:

    Steve Brown’s don’t waste your sin is a must read – period… He’s a bit optomistic, but…. ?

  6. John 20:29 says:

    Does something/someone become your idol when it/they have your total unquestioning support?

    FWIW – I suspect those poor Patriots are going to find most of the country rooting for them to be “taken down a peg or two” … we are a vicious nation…. lol

  7. Babylon's Dread says:

    Olsen’s post about slain in the Spirit is a good read. I love his boundaries on what is allowed in the comments.

  8. Babylon's Dread says:

    Sorry, Olson not Olsen … I hate doing that

  9. Babylon's Dread says:

    Craig Keener is brilliant, his little article is not much but his writings stand out. He is a first rate scholar, a lover of Jesus, a very eccentric person and you definitely would want to be in his space if he is extolling a matter. The only really difficult thing is that his scholarship makes simple declarative statements impossible. So he can be illusive to follow.

    Keen on Craig Dread

  10. Michael says:

    Olson’s piece is worth the read…

  11. John 20:29 says:

    The Keener article linked was an easy read… having gone thru the period he is addressing in the Seattle suburbs i thought (still do) that the hostility towards black folk was a suburban phenomena… I saw little R.C. darlings throwing and hitting a girl with native American roots as she tried to walk the cul d’sac … my daughter’s friend’s father – black man – sat at the pump of the local gas station that hadn’t gone self serve while the attendants (Lutes, as I recall) ignored him until he finally gave up and drove off… if our churches that are evangelical are guilty, well, I guess some other church goers just ignored their teachers?I
    IMO – we will get past our color prejudice when we realize that every race has good and bad …. something about the content of their character, not the color of their skin… it comes out in different manifestations, perhaps, but evil is there in every race and tribulation brings out the best – more than prosperity does it seems

  12. descended says:

    The piece on Pelagius has so many similarities to Chomsky vs Skinner.

  13. descended says:

    For me, freewill is only exercised after one is saved. Adam was in this state before the fall. I think Pelagius confuses spirit and soul as well.

  14. descended says:

    Not that I’m an expert on him, btw. Just the face value I perceive.

  15. John 20:29 says:

    Read Olson’s piece… came away thinking “but why?”
    As a pre-schooler I was taken to the Angeles Temple and I remember that I didn’t much like that lady up front – Aimee Semple sure didn’t seem holy to me then… maybe she was…. dunno…. a product of the time and place, matbe….
    I recall leaving a service with our three year old – she asked the pastor, “Are you God?” I would never have asked Simple Aimee that…. but then no one was expecting me to turn out to be a Believer back then… ?

  16. filbertz says:

    keener’s article was worthwhile and thought provoking. I appreciated the broader view. Further, the ethics/story article was helpful–I think it helps promote the understanding of the Bible as more than a theological tome, but ethics conveyed in context of human interaction and narrative–story. As a lit guy, I think it is a worthwhile perspective to promote.

  17. John 20:29 says:

    Re-read my 11 have to smile the boys threw rocks at the girl with native American heritage — they didn’t throw native American roots at her…. this tablet constantly substitutes words that I have to correct and it’s hard to think… wish I knew how to disable its spelll check

  18. brian says:

    I worked with folks that had severe self-injurious behavior it broke my heart, I tried to pray it away. That failed utterly miserable. The medical/psychological interventions did help but, well that is of Satan but well whatever. If Satan can help give rest to those I work with fine. I don’t care I want those I work/worked with to find peace, that has always been my only goal, ever. I could go on, it would serve no purpose at all. It just broke my heart and rebuilt it at the same time. God is often so confusing and healing at the same time. I know I am supposed to hate God, but I can’t seem to do that, to my shame. I have tried to repent of loving God but I cant, I can’t even do that right. I thank God I cant do that right.

  19. descended says:


    Psychology and philosophy are not of Satan.
    If you read Proverbs and Ecclesiastes you’ll see what I mean. Men and or Satan have taken what God meant for good and twisted it.

  20. Scooter Jones says:

    John 20:29, most of the time the autocorrect setting is in the “Language & input” setting.

    If you go to “Settings” on your tablet screen and open it, you can scroll down & find the Language & input tab. Tap on it and it will give you a few options, one of them is to turn off predictive or autocorrect typing.

  21. John 20:29 says:

    Scooter J. THANK YOU !!!! I had searched thru settings, never thot to look in language. – as dusty would say: (( hugs )). ?

  22. Scooter Jones says:

    You’re quite welcome 😉 Probably the most useful contribution I’ve made here in years! LOL

  23. John 20:29 says:

    ethics without stories… sounded odd, but Russell Moore’s article was surprisingly good food for thot… IMNSHO 🙂

    Scooter J, don’t know about that, but some of my pontificating comments may make a little more sense to anyone bothering to read them… again, maybe not… dunno… but you’ve made my life easier… now then, do you know any way to make a foot of slushy snow go away – without leaving us ankle deep in mud?

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