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  1. Randy Davis says:

    I have stopped commenting on most things on the internet because I figure there are enough opinions post already and what I have to say doesn’t usually add anything to the conversation. But I thought I would common article about “the cult of calling.”

    I believed in a Called ministry. It is arrogant for any of us to believe that we are qualified to lead a church or speak a word from God. I had a call experience when I was 17. I had no desire to go into ministry, in fact, quite the opposite. And I resisted the call for a time. But it was a profound call one summer Sunday night. I would later refer to it as a mystical experience. And that powerful call kept me from walking away from it all on several occasions. I pursued that call until my health gave out.

    I cannot speak for the author but I have suspicions. I know of women missionaries, who were called, and refused to allow even romantic love prevent from following their calling. I know of those who found a man who too felt called. I have also known a lot of young people answered the call for a short time and walk away with good memories and a desire to do something else.

    I do not know if a call has a time limit. I feel finished but I’m an not sure that is all there is for me. Only time will tell.

    In defense of a call, there seems to be two types of call noted in the Bible. A call is something that sits a person aside for a purpose. There are calls like that of the Prophets. There was also, it appears to me, a calling issued by churches and even persons. Paul had the Damascus road experience, but Baranabas called out Paul and so did the church at Antioch. The same can be said of Timothy. So I think there is a biblical basis for a call.

  2. Michael says:

    Great addition to that article…thank you for that.

  3. Em says:

    FWIW – i, too, am glad to read the input above (10:51) there was a period of our Church’s recent history where every young person was counseled to find God’s will for their life…. The Bible makes it pretty clear what God’s will is and, if He has a special call? He will get the message to you as He did with Pastor Davis. If God should speak to you, you’ll know it. It’s not quite the same as an “inclination.”. ?

  4. Babylon's Dread says:

    The lady with the “cult of calling” critique is responding in a normal way to changes in life. Give her grace even though Relevant Mag has its own little taste of smugness. We all do these days. However, the call is more central than ever to this life of mine.

    In 1972 it began to compel my thoughts by the time we married it was settled -1974. After completely miserably failing at a couple things there was an encounter then another with the Spirit that further settled the matter. It is all I have lived for and done these 43 years.

    Her article is fine as an expression of her outworking of life with God’s leading. The problem is the title which is likely editorial click bait and not really part of her message.

    I am called to God’s church and thereby to Jesus Christ and him alone as the builder author and finisher. The call is not a cult. The more people struggle to understand their own sense of call the more likely they do not specifically have it. In our ministry we tell people to do whatever they want that if God has a specific charge for them he is not ambiguous about it nor does he struggle to find you and make it clear.

  5. Jerod says:

    ” ‘ “DR.” ‘ BENNY HINN
    Let the bodies hit the floor!’ ”

    That was hilarious. Song reference:

  6. Jerod says:

    I think there are a number of OT prophets who had a “limited time offer” of a calling. The prophet who opposed Ahab and Jehosophat’s battle plan is one, some of the minor prophets as well?

  7. Dan from Georgia says:

    Wasn’t surprised at most of the names in the “Fake Degrees” article. Was surprised at the rather lengthy list of “accrediting institutions”.

  8. Steve says:

    Regarding calling, I view it in a much broader sense such as fulfilling one’s vocation. How often have you ever heard of one called to be a plumber or called to be a gas station attendant or factory worker. Why do we always assume it has to be church related?

  9. Babylon's Dread says:


    The vocational calling is deeply rooted in theology certainly in the reformed tradition. The woman was writing about calling with a decidedly ministerial view and in her own understanding of her life she shifted much more to the broader meaning.

    Relevant magazine took her article and by editorial license changed her intent into a challenge of the general idea of about calling. It would be an impossible task to try to remove calling from the Biblical narrative. We have too many concrete examples of those called apart from daily life into God’s service as his direct agent in the world. The only place of vulnerability is whether that particular kind of calling can be maintained as a normative part of God’s action in the covenant family here and now.

    It is easy to argue that many have claimed the call and fewer have vindicated that claim by their fruit. The Relevant editors badly overreached in their title of her article and in fact changed her intent dramatically. If she intended that title it is not obvious in her text.

    “Cult of calling” is a pejorative expression intended to diminish the claim. Leslie Verner in her hyperlinked column is reflecting on calling more in the broader terms you (Steve) outlined. She is not assaulting the authenticity of God calling individuals to specific works.

    Relevant has been annoying me for some time with their tone. Their canoe went over the waterfall on this one.

    Rocks in the Dread

  10. Babylon's Dread says:

    As for being afraid of losing everything … Isn’t that the Gospel? What do people who take up crosses have to lose?

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