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  1. Dan from Georgia says:

    Falwell and Trump. We’ve come a LONG way from the 1990s when the Christian right was warning us against moral relativism (see Dobson et al).

  2. Xenia says:

    Falwell said: ” A poor person never gave anybody charity, not of any real volume.”

    Jesus said: “”I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others. “

  3. Em says:

    ☺ i recall, long years ago… Pat Boone was on a TBN program – probably a fund raiser – and stated something to the effect that the little old ladies who send in their $20 contributions cannot keep an operation like TBN on the air… Jan Crouch just about fell off her chair, “Don’t say that; it is all those little contributions that keep us going!” ?
    i’ve often wondered if God gives more credit to the heart’s intent than the brain’s acuity…

  4. Em says:

    Steve Brown hates change? I do too. I didn’t even see the value of changing from dial phones to push button – the dial’s rotation gave me time to think. – i need time to do that. LOL

  5. Em says:

    Falwell jr’s observation on Christian’s who don’t support Trump is out of line… IMHO
    If he’d said that it is immoral for Christians not to pray for him, i think i’d agree

  6. Babylon's Dread says:

    We begin the year with another progressive critique of ‘the church’ which I understood very well being familiar with the author and having a fairly good acquaintance with the milieu from which he is taking the ‘we.’ Eventually we will tie that witch to a post and burn her out of our conscience.

  7. j2theperson says:

    John Piper is such a dork. Does he actively work on making his statements as cringeworthy as possible or do they just come out that way naturally?

  8. j2theperson says:

    I don’t really buy the BioLogos article about the true meaning of the long lives of people in the Bible pre-flood. Even if their interpretation is correct, people who go through a lot of gymnastics to show what the real significance in certain numbers are always come off sounding like Art Bell types.

  9. EricL says:

    Marry the Bible? Since Piper also tells us to submit to the Bible, I assume then that the Bible is male… but wouldn’t that mean I’m marrying another male? Is Piper saying that same-sex marriage is okay as long as it’s also inter-species? Can books be consider a species? This is getting very confusing.

    Profound Piper at his best. 🙂

  10. EricL says:

    The article calling contemporary worship music “orgasmic” comes across as the grumpy old man upset with the young whipper-snappers and wants the return of organ music, just like they had in Jesus’ day. Sigh.

    I’m no great fan of the “worship experience” extolled in many large evangelical churches, but to insult what others find uplifting by comparing it to something erotic seems rather rude.

  11. Dan from Georgia says:

    EricL hit upon some good stuff there! Also notice the “extremes” some will go through to get their point across…

    “Marry the Bible”
    “Orgasmic worship”


  12. Jean says:

    I’m not a music aficionado, and I do not wish to argue, but some of the music coming out of IHOP, for example by Misty Edwards, Bethel, and Hillsong United, IMO blurs the line between worship music and erotic music. Furthermore, the effect of the music on the worshipers, if you observe their videos, appears similar to the response that you see of fans entranced at a rock concert.

    I wouldn’t paint all contemporary worship music with the same brush.

  13. Babylon's Dread says:

    The top twenty articles proved how Billy Graham towered above us all and how desperately we miss him. The contrast in Missio Alliance and Christianity Today is palpable. Honor is so completely absent.

    Orgasmic worship? oh dear …

    Almost every article tells us what we need, what we don’t need, what’s wrong with this or that, how much we need to repent and how messed up we are … This Linkathon makes us glad 2018 is over and sure that 19 will be more of the same. The information age is making us sicker by the day.

    Most of the writers of the articles should probably reconsider their lives. There are happier pursuits and more ennobling enterprises. Once in a awhile they ought to actually write about Jesus and some of the people who know and follow him. There are many.

    Dr Graham we honor you but we don’t think you are the only true one out there.

  14. Em says:

    “…..Once in a awhile they ought to actually write about Jesus and some of the people who know and follow him. There are many.

    Dr Graham we honor you but we don’t think you are the only true one out there.”

    amen, Pastor Dread, amen … was just thinking about the really dear, honest Christ loving, redeemed souls that i have been blessed by over my life… not one of them was a celebrity Christian….

  15. Jtk says:

    Michael, Mexico is #39/50 on CT’s list of the most persecuted countries for Christians. Can you explain that?

    What a thorough link a thon. Thanks.

  16. Jtk says:

    Along Dreadly point, there are so many men of God I meet with weekly or slightly less often across a wide theological spectrum that all love Jesus, His Word and are doing amazing things, worthy of Heaven’s attention and/or ours as well.

    The beast of anxiety and the media really distort the true picture, don’t they?

  17. Michael says:


    Cartels have been known to kill priests who preach against their activities.
    Priests that are bought off by cartels often are murdered when the territory changes hands.
    Roman Catholic priests have persecuted evangelical followers and some of the regional cults persecute anyone not in their sects.
    Mexico is a beautiful, broken place…

  18. Babylon's Dread says:

    There is a conflict brewing in Canada that has been stewing for two years over free speech. Canada’s laws protecting minorities are headed in a direction that is concerning. They have already codified laws that limit religious speech and now have moved toward actually prescribing speech.

    The interesting thing is that social liberals (meaning historically tolerant) are being caught up in the crossfire. In 2016 Jordan Peterson began his protest against prescribed speech that launched him into worldwide celebrity. In 2017 Wilfred Laurier university professors and staff called a grad student instructor into account for showing a clip of a Peterson debate that was on their public broadcasting network. The professors intended to rebuke her for showing the professor’s ‘forbidden’ speech to a class without censoring and excoriating him. The student Lindsay Shepherd recorded their meeting with her. Then she released it to the press. Now she too has a huge public presence as a free speech advocate. A cause she considered a red herring before her encounters with the authorities.

    Shepherd subsequently has sued Wilfred Laurier later Peterson also sued the university for defamation of character as they, among other things, equated him to Hilter. Ironically, Peterson rejects the legal limits on speech precisely because he considers such things a prelude to marxist atrocity. Last week the professors of Wilf (the school’s unfortunate nickname) launched a suit against Shepherd. They are accusing her of violating their rights by posting their accusations against her. Yeah … it gets worse by the second.

    The progressive agenda is clearly focused on the first amendment in the US and free speech especially religious speech is now fully in the crosshairs.

    This stuff has me stirred and may reintroduce me to my social media presence. I’ve been frothing inside for a while but this gives me fresh impetus.

    Dreading the Night When No One Can Speak

  19. Michael says:


    Please write on this topic…it is crucial.

  20. Em says:

    Correct me, if i am wrong – please…. I am under the impression that there are lawyers on the government payroll, lots of them, who can bring a lawsuit against us, if we violate some pretty twisted views of what constitutes religious civil liberty right here in the U.S. ? ? ?

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