Yes, thank you from here, too, Dan
It took five hours to drive home from Seattle yesterday (Friday get out of town day and road repair in progress)… When we got here the dog had let go all over the upstairs white carpet… There must be something funny in there …. somewhere…?
Yikes! Wife and I are dog lovers, and I have issues with dog messes, but I always remind myself that it’s just a dog and can’t help itself at times. Dogs gonna do what they are gonna do.
Did I just type that?
In all seriousness though, I came home to a similar scenario when I was in my 20s. It was so bad I couldn’t go into the house without nearly gagging!
I was thinking about the potential catalysts for church “movements,” and came across this:
“The twentieth-century church has an impressive array of selective skills at her disposal, and she uses them with an amazing nonchalance. She seems to be unaware of the fact that every gap left by the excision or the suppression or the distortion of the true revelation of God inevitably invites the intrusion of the false and the satanic and becomes the matrix of pseudo revelation. Whether the Christ is overlaid by Mariolatry or is stripped bare by critical operations, the guilt and the effect are the same: the empty, swept, and furbished house is wide open to the homesick hosts of Satan.” – Martin H. Franzmann
No.
Nor did the Roman Catholics and Reformed folks he takes a thinly veiled swipe at.
Reminds me of the prophecy fundies who are always looking to damn somebody…
I think the author makes a good observation regarding how theological problems in the church can be generated. If one looks at contemporary issues, such as clergy abuse, homosexual ordination, certain Pentecostal excesses, and declining birth rates among Christians, they arguably could be traced back to something in a prior church generation that got suppressed or distorted from how it is taught in Scripture.
I don’t consider defending the rest of Christendom against claims of Satanic infiltration bashing.
That stuff may go over on an LCMS blog but the PhxP is bone tired of it.
I think the issue at hand is why there are so many variations of Christian theology.
Some think it’s because they are right and everyone else is deceived by Satan.
I would say it’s because we all see through a glass darkly.
That…is a wide difference in understanding all by itself.
So how is Franzman’s statements different from a Duane blog as he bemoans the ills of the church each week?
If the Anglican Church is not attacked by Satan on a regular basis, you may want to ask why. I know the Lutherans face a constant onslaught by the evil one.
MLD,
It’s Sunday.
I’m not going to fence with the Lutherans today.
In conclusion, Duane is addressing issues in the church universal, not condemning any group as being in the grips of Satan.
Now, we can go back to what we were all doing.
You launched an hour before I did. 🙂
Franzmann did not identify anyone other than high church and low church – meaning all churches – and he referenced scripture – that probably threw you.
It’s all yours today…
Because not everything has to be so d#$@ serious…
“Mirth is God’s medicine” – Henry Ward Beecher
“Familiarity breeds contempt – and children” – Mark Twain
“Good company in a journey makes the way seem shorter” – Izaak Walton
“With the fearful strain that is on me night and day, if I did not laugh I should die” – Abraham Lincoln
Bonus…
“Treat your friends as you do your pictures, and place them in their best light” – Jennie Jerome Churchill
Thank you Dan. I love the Lincoln quote.
Life is so damn overwhelming. Humor is a gift from God.
Thanks, Dan…we need reminded…
Yes, thank you from here, too, Dan
It took five hours to drive home from Seattle yesterday (Friday get out of town day and road repair in progress)… When we got here the dog had let go all over the upstairs white carpet… There must be something funny in there …. somewhere…?
Em,
Yikes! Wife and I are dog lovers, and I have issues with dog messes, but I always remind myself that it’s just a dog and can’t help itself at times. Dogs gonna do what they are gonna do.
Did I just type that?
In all seriousness though, I came home to a similar scenario when I was in my 20s. It was so bad I couldn’t go into the house without nearly gagging!
I was thinking about the potential catalysts for church “movements,” and came across this:
“The twentieth-century church has an impressive array of selective skills at her disposal, and she uses them with an amazing nonchalance. She seems to be unaware of the fact that every gap left by the excision or the suppression or the distortion of the true revelation of God inevitably invites the intrusion of the false and the satanic and becomes the matrix of pseudo revelation. Whether the Christ is overlaid by Mariolatry or is stripped bare by critical operations, the guilt and the effect are the same: the empty, swept, and furbished house is wide open to the homesick hosts of Satan.” – Martin H. Franzmann
Do you see this playing out in our time?
Jean,
No.
Nor did the Roman Catholics and Reformed folks he takes a thinly veiled swipe at.
Reminds me of the prophecy fundies who are always looking to damn somebody…
I think the author makes a good observation regarding how theological problems in the church can be generated. If one looks at contemporary issues, such as clergy abuse, homosexual ordination, certain Pentecostal excesses, and declining birth rates among Christians, they arguably could be traced back to something in a prior church generation that got suppressed or distorted from how it is taught in Scripture.
I think the author was yet another Lutheran bashing Christians who differ from him on some theological point.
They bore me.
and yet, here you are bashing him – a Christian who differs with you. Some might call it odd.
MLD,
I don’t consider defending the rest of Christendom against claims of Satanic infiltration bashing.
That stuff may go over on an LCMS blog but the PhxP is bone tired of it.
I think the issue at hand is why there are so many variations of Christian theology.
Some think it’s because they are right and everyone else is deceived by Satan.
I would say it’s because we all see through a glass darkly.
That…is a wide difference in understanding all by itself.
So how is Franzman’s statements different from a Duane blog as he bemoans the ills of the church each week?
If the Anglican Church is not attacked by Satan on a regular basis, you may want to ask why. I know the Lutherans face a constant onslaught by the evil one.
MLD,
It’s Sunday.
I’m not going to fence with the Lutherans today.
In conclusion, Duane is addressing issues in the church universal, not condemning any group as being in the grips of Satan.
Now, we can go back to what we were all doing.
You launched an hour before I did. 🙂
Franzmann did not identify anyone other than high church and low church – meaning all churches – and he referenced scripture – that probably threw you.
Happy Lord’s day.
Life’s a lot simpler if you plow around the stump
Now its Monday…
Let’s fight!!!
Baptists rule, Lutherans drool!