Our hospitals are on overflow and the National Guard has been called in to help with setting and maintaining Covid field hospitals.
At the same time a large demonstration is planned in front of the main hospital to protest against mask mandates and the vaccines.
A large Facebook thread of locals indicates that much of the community does not believe our own doctors and nurses and will refuse to comply with any guidance or mandate.
Tomorrow large churches will flaunt their opposition to the mask mandate for indoor gatherings.
Our ability to communicate has outpaced our morality and negated our capability for wisdom and the society we once knew will soon burn and be gone.
The kingdom of God will endure…
Michael,
I’m so sorry and I will be praying. What do they think all those people are ill with-late summer flu? Or do they think they’re all paid actors? I think a certain sector of our society has lost its mind.
Some relatives think all the doctors, nurses, government people, etc. are either lying or deliberately exaggerating the virus, and that those of us who took the shot have been duped and swallowed the flavor-aide, etc. *They* are perceptive independent thinkers who hear from God and us shot-takers are dumb sheep who will fall for the Mark of the Beast when the time comes.
Now the whole world, especially our enemies, the Achilles heal of the super power known as America. Who would have imagined that our greatest strength may very well become our greatest weakness and undoing? Do think for a minute that our enemies are not watching.
To believe the virus and the vaccine are part of a vast, global conspiracy plot to take away our rights is to hold in disdain over half the people you meet everywhere, in the grocery store, etc. It causes you to be suspicious of everyone. I can’t live my life in Christ if I am suspicious of practically everyone and everything.
I just found out that my sister and brother-in-law aren’t vaccinated. They live in rural northwest Arizona where the virus is very busy and hospitals are filling up. Reasons: we’re thinking about it, we already had COVID (never officially confirmed), we don’t know what the vaccine will do to us…in the same breath mentioning a good friend who recently died from the virus. Huh? They both have numerous comorbidities and I don’t understand. I did what I could, but the conversation went nowhere.
I attended 7th-12th grades there. The unnamed principal was 2 years behind me in high school and I took a class with her at the CC on Stockton. Her mom was my bus driver.
The teacher sent to the hospital is the teacher of my high school friend’s daughter. The later bloodied teacher stepped in after the parent was verbally assaulting (which can be a crime) the principal. Unsure, even from my sources, why the parent isn’t in jail, but it’s being investigated.
The county is a mix of old rural blood (ranchers and those whose families have roots going back to the gold rush), flatlander immigrants who embrace the rural lifestyle, and flatlander gentrifiers from the central valley and bay area. Sutter Creek has about 2500 people within the city limits, but the school serves a good portion of the small county which only has 2 main high schools. It’s shocking, but sadly not surprising.
Don’t be too quick to scorn those who worry about the side effects of this vaccine….
We have a man whose kidneys had failed and he was at the top of the list for a transplant, BUT
they told him you must be vaccinated or we won’t give you the kidney. He complied and is now in a Seattle hospital with myocarditis and they are not sure if he’ll live.
Right now I am trying to decide whether to risk it. At my age, my family thinks I should. Somehow dying of covid seems preferable to living the rest of my days with an on-going side effect from the vaccine….
Yes, I’ll pray and be sensible, but forcing/mandating the vaccine goes against my sense of responsibility for my own health.
Nurses and others here in the know are opting out. They’ll be fired and cannot collect unemployment….
It just seems to me that this should be an individual’s right to choose…
But what do I know 🙂
the vaccine is not 100% anything, nor is it touted as such. It has a 90+ percent effectiveness for preventing serious covid illness, hospitalization, and death. Of course there will be effects that fall into the 10%–reactions, illness, hospitalization, even death. Those anecdotal effects are to be expected and understood as such. Of course those complications are difficult and perhaps even devastating for those who experience them. I know as one of my close colleagues is struggling with serious side effects. A patient died yesterday, locally, who was vaccinated. What I am trying to say is the exceptions don’t negate the positives. It is a matter for individuals to decide in view of truthful information, not religious, political, or social manipulation. I don’t think anyone has the corner on truth when it comes to what Jesus would do, or how the Holy Spirit would lead.
That being said, I support a person’s individual right to choose in this matter without fear of retaliation or shame. It is ridiculous that medical professionals are being forced to choose or be drummed out of their jobs. This whole pandemic has been poorly handled by politicians from the start, but also by the majority of religious leaders as well. We can do better. We must do better.
I think at this point the evidence says that vaccinated people infect as many as unvaxed people…so the choice now is about whether you want to possibly die from this or just get sick for while…
I am all for mask mandates…simply to train people to show concern for others while getting whatever benefit they offer.
Just a thought, but when you become ill and are unvaccinated, you are much sicker than a vaccinated person who gets COVID. That means you may be occupying an ICU bed needed by a stroke, cardiac or cancer patient.
Been to ER twice this weekend. What I saw..
-medics couldn’t offload normally. They called private transport to solvel problem. It worked. Had a window seat.
-both times I was brought behind faster then others. Brought back does not mean a room. You get a chair in a hallway or equipment parking area . I had a wonderful but slightly broken recliner .
-was immediately outside the last ICU room. These are obviously covid patients. A person who whispers a covid/vac question is likely covid.
-couple patients examined in lobby.
-traffic flow is helped by all the people who get mad and leave.
-nurse told me the talk of a collapsing hospital system is media hype.
-overheard talk of staffing as shortage.
-security sat at triage counter. Bet there’s been tension.
-sitting in lobby or hallways unvacinated is nuts.
My takeaway was serious unvacinated people do not regret their decision, even if in serious condition. I detected frustration among staff.
COVID Vaccinations are no different than the hardhat or safety shoes at a construction site. They reduce the risk of a workplace injury and the chances of a severe injury or death. I find is fascinating that all these people who advocate that medical personnel should be able refuse vaccinations as a condition for employment are OK with requiring hardhats as a condition for employment on construction sites. In both cases, if you refuse, the employer has a right to fire your a*s and should. If you don’t like the workplace requirements, you are free to work somewhere else. Don’t let the door hit you in the a*s on the way out.
Sure you have a right to refuse to be vaccinated, a right to be stupid, and a right to be a selfish, narcissist as*hole. But then employers have the right to NOT employ you either. And it does NOT absolve or give you a free pass for your stupidity or its consequences. A people have a right to not give a s*it about you because you are stupid either. They also have a right to nominate you for a Darwin Award because you died of your stupidity.
I hereby nominate EVERY person who died of COVID that refused to be vaccinated and wear a mask for the Darwin Award.
CM. All those medical personnel worked in the face of Covid the entire pandemic BEFORE the vaccine was available when they were considered heroes. Now they are narcissist assholes? Talk about the kettle being called black! Most hardhats and steel toed shoes didn’t cause side effects that could be disabling. Many of those with objections to the vaccines have well-reasoned, science-based conclusions that have dictated their decision, not stupidity. Your rant was ungracious and lacking any empathy for the complicated issue before us. By the way, vaccinated individuals are getting sick, hospitalized, and dying–just as a hardhat doesn’t save your life from all workplace accidents.
You can take off a hard hat when the day is done.
I have family members who cannot receive the vaccination…I assure you that they are not stupid and if you’d like to speak to them in this fashion in person, I would be more than willing to give you a hard hat…because you’re going to need some form of protection.
ivermectin (we have a supply of that – the doctor who prescribed it lost his license to practice in WA state)
*
but that isn’t why i stopped by here
a devout atheist was relating, drought, wildfires, covid, Afghanistan debacle, etc. and remarked that it felt to him like the “end of the world was near…”
what does a Christian – a real one – respond to that remark?
It’s all yours today…
Our hospitals are on overflow and the National Guard has been called in to help with setting and maintaining Covid field hospitals.
At the same time a large demonstration is planned in front of the main hospital to protest against mask mandates and the vaccines.
A large Facebook thread of locals indicates that much of the community does not believe our own doctors and nurses and will refuse to comply with any guidance or mandate.
Tomorrow large churches will flaunt their opposition to the mask mandate for indoor gatherings.
Our ability to communicate has outpaced our morality and negated our capability for wisdom and the society we once knew will soon burn and be gone.
The kingdom of God will endure…
Michael,
I’m so sorry and I will be praying. What do they think all those people are ill with-late summer flu? Or do they think they’re all paid actors? I think a certain sector of our society has lost its mind.
Linn,
Thanks.
It’s not just my valley…this is the reality in most places…and it’s not a sustainable reality.
Some relatives think all the doctors, nurses, government people, etc. are either lying or deliberately exaggerating the virus, and that those of us who took the shot have been duped and swallowed the flavor-aide, etc. *They* are perceptive independent thinkers who hear from God and us shot-takers are dumb sheep who will fall for the Mark of the Beast when the time comes.
I’ve heard that preached almost word for word…
Now the whole world, especially our enemies, the Achilles heal of the super power known as America. Who would have imagined that our greatest strength may very well become our greatest weakness and undoing? Do think for a minute that our enemies are not watching.
This father’s 1-year-old boy is hospitalized with Covid-19. He’s pleading for you to get vaccinated
Father: “There’s nothing you can do to help me…the only thing we can do…is to get your vaccine, so another child doesn’t have to do this.”
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/us/baby-hospitalized-covid-19-father/index.html?utm_content=2021-08-13T22%3A31%3A07&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_term=link&fbclid=IwAR2dVxqj_WTLbnpJ_IFgtrqJbjme0fZjs5vr1KMXLifBOVLqc96MrkKtcTA
To believe the virus and the vaccine are part of a vast, global conspiracy plot to take away our rights is to hold in disdain over half the people you meet everywhere, in the grocery store, etc. It causes you to be suspicious of everyone. I can’t live my life in Christ if I am suspicious of practically everyone and everything.
How can you love your neighbor if:
1. You don’t care if they catch the virus from you;
2. You think they are idiots for believing the virus is real and for taking precautions
Love matters little…it’s about “rights” and ‘freedom”…
I just found out that my sister and brother-in-law aren’t vaccinated. They live in rural northwest Arizona where the virus is very busy and hospitals are filling up. Reasons: we’re thinking about it, we already had COVID (never officially confirmed), we don’t know what the vaccine will do to us…in the same breath mentioning a good friend who recently died from the virus. Huh? They both have numerous comorbidities and I don’t understand. I did what I could, but the conversation went nowhere.
This is national news:
https://www.kcra.com/article/sutter-creek-parent-assaults-teacher-over-mask-dispute-at-amador-county-school-superintendent/37295267
I attended 7th-12th grades there. The unnamed principal was 2 years behind me in high school and I took a class with her at the CC on Stockton. Her mom was my bus driver.
The teacher sent to the hospital is the teacher of my high school friend’s daughter. The later bloodied teacher stepped in after the parent was verbally assaulting (which can be a crime) the principal. Unsure, even from my sources, why the parent isn’t in jail, but it’s being investigated.
The county is a mix of old rural blood (ranchers and those whose families have roots going back to the gold rush), flatlander immigrants who embrace the rural lifestyle, and flatlander gentrifiers from the central valley and bay area. Sutter Creek has about 2500 people within the city limits, but the school serves a good portion of the small county which only has 2 main high schools. It’s shocking, but sadly not surprising.
Don’t be too quick to scorn those who worry about the side effects of this vaccine….
We have a man whose kidneys had failed and he was at the top of the list for a transplant, BUT
they told him you must be vaccinated or we won’t give you the kidney. He complied and is now in a Seattle hospital with myocarditis and they are not sure if he’ll live.
Right now I am trying to decide whether to risk it. At my age, my family thinks I should. Somehow dying of covid seems preferable to living the rest of my days with an on-going side effect from the vaccine….
Yes, I’ll pray and be sensible, but forcing/mandating the vaccine goes against my sense of responsibility for my own health.
Nurses and others here in the know are opting out. They’ll be fired and cannot collect unemployment….
It just seems to me that this should be an individual’s right to choose…
But what do I know 🙂
Em- you know a lot and I personally appreciate your standing strong on your beliefs on the vaccine issue! You have the Holy Spirit to guide you PTL
the vaccine is not 100% anything, nor is it touted as such. It has a 90+ percent effectiveness for preventing serious covid illness, hospitalization, and death. Of course there will be effects that fall into the 10%–reactions, illness, hospitalization, even death. Those anecdotal effects are to be expected and understood as such. Of course those complications are difficult and perhaps even devastating for those who experience them. I know as one of my close colleagues is struggling with serious side effects. A patient died yesterday, locally, who was vaccinated. What I am trying to say is the exceptions don’t negate the positives. It is a matter for individuals to decide in view of truthful information, not religious, political, or social manipulation. I don’t think anyone has the corner on truth when it comes to what Jesus would do, or how the Holy Spirit would lead.
That being said, I support a person’s individual right to choose in this matter without fear of retaliation or shame. It is ridiculous that medical professionals are being forced to choose or be drummed out of their jobs. This whole pandemic has been poorly handled by politicians from the start, but also by the majority of religious leaders as well. We can do better. We must do better.
It just seems to me that this should be an individual’s right to choose…<<<
But your choice may affect other people, that's the problem.
I think at this point the evidence says that vaccinated people infect as many as unvaxed people…so the choice now is about whether you want to possibly die from this or just get sick for while…
I am all for mask mandates…simply to train people to show concern for others while getting whatever benefit they offer.
Michael and Xenia,
Just a thought, but when you become ill and are unvaccinated, you are much sicker than a vaccinated person who gets COVID. That means you may be occupying an ICU bed needed by a stroke, cardiac or cancer patient.
“I am all for mask mandates”….. ME TOO
Been to ER twice this weekend. What I saw..
-medics couldn’t offload normally. They called private transport to solvel problem. It worked. Had a window seat.
-both times I was brought behind faster then others. Brought back does not mean a room. You get a chair in a hallway or equipment parking area . I had a wonderful but slightly broken recliner .
-was immediately outside the last ICU room. These are obviously covid patients. A person who whispers a covid/vac question is likely covid.
-couple patients examined in lobby.
-traffic flow is helped by all the people who get mad and leave.
-nurse told me the talk of a collapsing hospital system is media hype.
-overheard talk of staffing as shortage.
-security sat at triage counter. Bet there’s been tension.
-sitting in lobby or hallways unvacinated is nuts.
My takeaway was serious unvacinated people do not regret their decision, even if in serious condition. I detected frustration among staff.
A few thoughts.
COVID Vaccinations are no different than the hardhat or safety shoes at a construction site. They reduce the risk of a workplace injury and the chances of a severe injury or death. I find is fascinating that all these people who advocate that medical personnel should be able refuse vaccinations as a condition for employment are OK with requiring hardhats as a condition for employment on construction sites. In both cases, if you refuse, the employer has a right to fire your a*s and should. If you don’t like the workplace requirements, you are free to work somewhere else. Don’t let the door hit you in the a*s on the way out.
Sure you have a right to refuse to be vaccinated, a right to be stupid, and a right to be a selfish, narcissist as*hole. But then employers have the right to NOT employ you either. And it does NOT absolve or give you a free pass for your stupidity or its consequences. A people have a right to not give a s*it about you because you are stupid either. They also have a right to nominate you for a Darwin Award because you died of your stupidity.
I hereby nominate EVERY person who died of COVID that refused to be vaccinated and wear a mask for the Darwin Award.
>>Off SoapBox.
CM. All those medical personnel worked in the face of Covid the entire pandemic BEFORE the vaccine was available when they were considered heroes. Now they are narcissist assholes? Talk about the kettle being called black! Most hardhats and steel toed shoes didn’t cause side effects that could be disabling. Many of those with objections to the vaccines have well-reasoned, science-based conclusions that have dictated their decision, not stupidity. Your rant was ungracious and lacking any empathy for the complicated issue before us. By the way, vaccinated individuals are getting sick, hospitalized, and dying–just as a hardhat doesn’t save your life from all workplace accidents.
CM,
You can take off a hard hat when the day is done.
I have family members who cannot receive the vaccination…I assure you that they are not stupid and if you’d like to speak to them in this fashion in person, I would be more than willing to give you a hard hat…because you’re going to need some form of protection.
Fil,
My apologies for allowing that rant.
We have too many in this culture infected with certainty about uncertain things and the end will not be good.
One of the reasons people have hesitancy about the narrative is the lack of interest in thereputics for Covid.
There seems to be anecdotal evidence about ivermectin, though the studies have been inconclusive.
This seems like it should be a bigger story…
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/a-readily-available-drug-may-help-fight-covid-19
ivermectin (we have a supply of that – the doctor who prescribed it lost his license to practice in WA state)
*
but that isn’t why i stopped by here
a devout atheist was relating, drought, wildfires, covid, Afghanistan debacle, etc. and remarked that it felt to him like the “end of the world was near…”
what does a Christian – a real one – respond to that remark?
I just tell people that the world is going to end for all of us some day…even if things in the world are going well.
good ponder, Michael – thank you