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  1. Captain Kevin says:

    First (There used to be something so satisfying about that).

  2. Terry says:

    Praying for the situation in Israel. The spin and narratives are already in full force in my X feed. Its significant that neither Israel or US intelligence knew this was coming. Literally “that escalated quickly”.

  3. Michael says:

    I’ve so far avoided the temptation to inform folks that the current state of Israel has nothing in common with covenant Israel but geography…I need to stay distracted…

  4. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    at 22.5k it’s not for everybody, or even most people, but I was thinking about how co-founding pastor Lief Moi died last year and only recently discovered that the other co-founding pastor of Mars Hill, Mike Gunn, went on record about why he didn’t go on record for Mike Cosper’s podcast. He talked about his time in the early MH and A29, mentioning there were a lot of positive memories for him yet he also looked back on it all and concluded “We were arrogant fools.” With Driscoll being in the one-day-only event movie The Domino Revival (whatever that is), I have been thinking about how the three men I met decades ago weren’t the guys they have become. Fame was bad for Driscoll and Moi and Gunn providentially missed out on that by planting his own church and being okay with it never being more than about 200 people. When asked if Driscoll said Gunn would never pastor a church bigger than 200 people Gunn said, yeah, and he’s okay with that. The spiritual fruit and faithfulness of the people who are in your church is ultimately more important than how big it gets.

    I thought, “Yeah, that IS the Mike Gunn I met decades ago.” He was also the one guy of the three co-founding pastors of MH who had an M Div (Talbot School of Theology).

    Been reckoning with growing up in a family where I got told I was called to be a prophet and it’s a rough thing for a parent to put on a kid. So when I see Driscoll claims everyone in his family is an Elijah in New Days, Old Demons, I feel bad for his kids. Being told you’re a prophet set apart from birth is a lot of expectation to dump on a kid and I spent a big part of my life studying biblical literature and history related to prophets in scripture and the ANE in contrast to the stupid Rapture Ready dispensationalist stuff I got. I didn’t want to be some End Times prophet so when I say I feel bad for the Driscoll kids I say that as someone who has spent my life distancing myself from what I regarded as spiritual delusions of grandeur harbored on my behalf by someone close to me.

    Jesus taught that the peacemakers are blessed and will be called children of God. He didn’t say “Blessed are the culture warriors for they will outbreed their enemies.” There’s a lot about my life and family history I avoid getting into at the blog but, however many issues there have been, I have become more grateful over the course of my life that my exposure to Calvinist and Reformed thought was through the Native American side of my ancestry rather than the Okie transplant side of my family.

    https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2023/10/on-lives-and-deaths-and-mars-hill-year.html

    There’s such a big difference between Mark saying “Oh I started too young” when it’s easy to see him say decades ago that if he wasn’t gonna be allowed at the big table for Thanksgiving he would make his own table, and Mike Gunn looking back and saying “We were arrogant fools”. Gunn’s reservations about Cosper’s CT podcast are not exactly my own but his point that anything and everything the podcast was supposed to do could have been done in two tightly written episodes instead of the day’s worth of sprawl we got is a fair point.

  5. Captain Kevin says:

    W, I can’t imagine the pressure of being told at a young age that you’re a prophet. I can’t saying something ridiculous and dangerous like that to my own kids.

    “Blessed are the culture warriors for they will outbreed their enemies.” That sure is how a lot of people act and talk. Ugh!

  6. JTK says:

    I need some help. Someone please use small words.

    How IN THE WORLD does the modern events in Israel have ANYTHING to do with the end times?

  7. Michael says:

    Some Christians believe that the current state of Israel is covenant Israel.

    Thus, it fits in with dispensational teachings about the end.

    I would say that all the conflicts are part of a possible end times scenario…but not because secular Israel is involved.

  8. Michael says:

    Dispensationalism says that Israel is “Gods time clock”…I think God wears an Apple Watch…

  9. The New Victor says:

    All times are end times. My Marine (former, but you never call them that) contractor and I were discussing the alliance between Russia and North Korea this past week before the Iran/Hamas attacks. How close at might be to WW3.

  10. Michael says:

    TNV,

    Probably closer than we think…

  11. Officerhoppy says:

    The CC prophecy update guys will have a field day with this

  12. jtk says:

    Maybe i’ll respond on the other topic…

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