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  1. jtk says:

    timely question: what should senior pastors who send enough to be removed from ministry Due for a job after they leave?

    Are there any commonalities and what they usually do for a job?

    just really curious…

  2. Michael says:

    jtk,

    I keep seeing this question and it baffles me why.
    They do whatever someone will hire them to do.

  3. Uncle Buck says:

    I finished the book of Deuteronomy early this morning. Because of God’s glorious grace, Moses was allowed to view the Promised land from Pisgah Peak on Mount Nebo (Dt.33). God graciously allowed Moses to view the Promised land because due to his transgression of striking the Rock instead of speaking to the Rock (Numbers 20) God had decreed that he would not be allowed to enter the Promised land due to his disobedience. Moses entreated the Lord on the matter but the Lord would hear none of it. Moses’s transgression of God’s specific command would result in Moses’s death just prior to the children of Israel entering the Promised land. As I though about it, I wondered why it is that Christians have such a hard time with banning from formal ministry those “Pastors” that sin in such horribly harmful ways. It seems that each day another “Pastor” is exposed for some moral failure (typically some sort of sexual sin involving sisters in their care) and it seems that Christians are completely ok with said pastor taking a bit of time off to go through some bogus “restoration” process so that the “Pastor can jump right back into the huddle. Candidly, it makes me sick to my stomach while simultaneously making so angry that I have a hard time properly processing it. On top of all of that there is the sadness I feel for the victims of such criminal activity and I continue to ask myself why? Why do we have such a hard time dealing with these things in a manner that honors the Lord, gently handles with much grace, compassion and love the victims and truly seeks to deal with the perpetrator who oftentimes sin in such a way that there standing as a fellow believer must be called into question. I am sure that God was grieved by what Moses did and it gave God no pleasure to ban him from the Promised land but He did it. God couldn’t allow Moses’s disobedience to go unchecked. If God didn’t allow Moses to enter the Promised land due to what Moses did I see absolutely nothing at all wrong with removing for good a “Pastor” that sins in some of the ways that we have seen in the last while. I do not mean to be ungracious, God allowed Moses to see the Promised land and stand in it at the Transfiguration (Mt. 17)…Our God is truly gracious. Having said that, God exercised strong discipline while at the same time extending great grace. By allowing men to continue in these roles we are not protecting our sisters from predatorial wolves in sheep’s clothing. We are not helping the “Pastor” by not dealing decisively with his sin and we give the watching world reason to call the faith into question.

    Rant over.

    Grace and peace to you all.

  4. Uncle Buck says:

    Forgive me for the long post.

  5. Michael says:

    Uncle Buck,

    I share your disgust…idolatry is at the root and idolatry is always the scourge of true faith…

  6. Uncle Buck says:

    Michael,

    Amen…well said!

  7. The New Victor says:

    Uncle Buck, great example. Also, numerous examples of Kings and Prophets (and Eli the priest)… Pride.

  8. Linn says:

    Jtk,

    Retired pastors and missionaries I have known have taught, done pulpit supply, worked as chaplains, taken sales positions…Others have retired, enjoyed their families and done volunteer work in their communities.

  9. Reuben says:

    Pete Rose died

  10. Dan from Georgia says:

    John Amos just passed away (“Good Times”, “Roots”).

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