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  1. Captain Kevin says:

    How ‘bout we just quit lying…period!

  2. Dan from Georgia says:

    if you tell the truth, then you shouldn’t be afraid of fact checking.

  3. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    soon Christoph Heilig’s Paul The Storyteller gets published
    https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802878953/paul-the-storyteller/

    I enjoyed Heilig’s The Apostle and The Empire quite a bit a few years ago. This one should be fun based on what I’ve read from him so far.

    In other news, for those who didn’t catch it, Internet Archive got a DDoS attack and a hack lately. The WayBack Machine was done and Internet Archive was done. Advised not to use it for a while until things get resolved.

    It’s a reminder to me of a pattern I had in my watchdog blog years of putting everything that seemed relevant down in print for the record. For those who presume The WayBack Machine is always around to archive stuff there’s robots.txt to deny access to archiving and Internet Archive itself has been vulnerable to hacks and judicial rulings. If it needs to be spelled out more bluntly and plainly, DO NOT JUST ASSUME IT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE.

    I’d say that people visiting Wenatchee The Hatchet be careful of clicking links to marshill.com sites and archive.org for the moment. I tried to make sure the relevant statements are there to be read both to preserve a record and concede the reality that no resource on the internet is “forever”.

    But back to the Heilig title, I’m excited to start reading it when it’s available later this month.

  4. Michael says:

    WTH,

    I hope they patch it together…I haven’t looked at it in a decade or more and I should move some stuff here…

  5. Michael says:

    Duane,

    Excellent piece…hoping someone puts mine to good use when I’m gone…

  6. jtk says:

    1)
    As an older brother in the church, I contemplate saying something I see as a concern (4/10 concern level, but with the potential to be higher over time) to a fellow believer….

    however 2 others folks of somewhat similar age took comments poorly…1 fairly aggressively, 1 fairly passively….what should I do?!?!

    2)
    As I help young men, I find myself in consternation about 2 local churches that appear to say NOTHING about fornicators in their mega churches….I won’t give names of said churches, let’s just say I want to SKIP that….

    Does this bother anyone else? I
    gotta say, this mega church model where specific sins, especially a biggie like this, are not addressed sure hurts the teenage males that attend those churches….if you can’t say it loud and clear, how will those young men take a stand where and when it’s important?

    3)
    Michael, I gotta keep asking, but this time with a different emphasis….what job DO ex senior pastors caught in sin do to get a paycheck? ANY GUESSES?

    This variant of a previous question doesn’t focus on what they SHOULD do……

    Certainly relevant in on the PP….

  7. Michael says:

    jtk,

    We say what we need to say regardless of the response.

    Preaching against fornication isn’t popular…so popular people don’t want to do it…

    Fallen pastors go into lots of different stuff…sales, sales management, real estate…bars…

  8. jtk says:

    Good stuff…

    i gotta find a study or more anecdotes on what former pastors do….

  9. Muff Potter says:

    Duane Arnold @ 2:12 pm,
    Real books, yeah, and how they’re outta’ fashion these days.
    It’s also kinda’ scary too, makes me think of Bradbury’s ‘Fahrenheit 451′.
    Are we becoming like the Eloi in H.G. Wells’ ‘The Time Machine’?

  10. Michael says:

    jtk,

    Not sure why that subject interests you so much, but I did notice that some become chaplains in hospitals or for emergency services…

  11. bob1 says:

    Thank goodness this was aired out!

    I heard the wife of a former Congressman who’s from Central America say that this is Banana Republic behavior.

  12. jtk says:

    First, I’m interested because I’m a minister, and i serve under a senior pastor and I’m curious for us.
    I don’t see either of us blowing it like other guys featured here, but that could be an unhealthy estimation, no?

    Second, I’ve helped raise up several ministers, and only 40% still serve as ministers….and it’s painful.

    Third, we talk about the pastors who get caught doing bad stuff here….and some of them like Tullian T and whoever the NYC Hillsong guy is just won’t give it up….

    Fourth, I’m so curious and I get lots of answers here…sometimes. And this seems to be a subject not written about.

  13. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    it was ten years ago somebody proved himself the Richard Nixon of megachurch preachers.

    https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2024/10/ten-years-after.html

  14. Captain Kevin says:

    Heard this from Alistair Begg this morning, in a message on idolatry.

    “…I am tired of listening to people speak as if the proclamation of the gospel was to try and get the Western world sorted out. God is not interested in the politics of the Western world, ultimately. God is concerned about his kingdom. And the proclamation of the gospel is not a means to a democratic end. The proclamation of the gospel is so that men and women who are trapped and enslaved in sin may be liberated, because their life is very short, and they’re going to spend eternity somewhere, and they will either spend it with the demons in hell or they will spend it with the saints in glory, and it won’t matter a dime where they lived and how they voted and what else they did.”

  15. bob1 says:

    Excellent quote, CK. He’s right on the money.

  16. Bob Sweat says:

    CK, I just used that quote!

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