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  1. dusty says:

    oh my. I don’t understand why someone would keep doing this.

  2. Sister Christian says:

    Joining in prayer

  3. Sister Christian says:


    time for a prayer call

  4. just an idea says:

    I would say you have too many scripts which probably open your site to hacking.

  5. Believe says:

    Hey all…

  6. Michael says:

    Either God wants me to hang it up or we’re kicking Satans butt…

  7. Believe says:

    …”don’t touch God’s anointed”… ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. Believe says:

    Michael said, “Either God wants me to hang it up or weโ€™re kicking Satans buttโ€ฆ”

    …or it’s just a result of the fall.

    Rains on the just and the unjust…

  9. Not Alone says:

    Well, this one comes up a lot faster. The other is so slow on mobiles. TMI

  10. Dusty says:

    my vote…

    “weโ€™re kicking Satans buttโ€ฆ”

  11. ryan couch says:

    Hey Michael,

    Don’t despair…you know that difficulty and hardship is never a reason to quit. If it were then Jesus wouldn’t have gone to the cross and every pastor would quit today.

    I would say a reason to quit would be no fruit…if there were no fruit and it was super tough I would say, hang it up. Not because of the difficulty but because it isn’t worth it…this is worth it. You know it.

  12. Michael says:

    Thanks, Ryan.

    Anytime we encounter a trial, we need to ask God if there a message in it for us.
    My instinct is always to rebuild…but if God wants me to move on I need to hear that too.

  13. Dusty says:

    lets see…the last few posts on PP were prayer requests for iMonk and the Stipes and a Prayer thread…can’t believe it was God…or just rain on the just….

  14. Nonnie says:

    Ryan, that was a good word!

    Let’s all continue to pray for Michael Spenser and family (iMonk) and the Stipes family.

    Praying for you too Michael. Be encouraged. You are loved and appreciated.

  15. beard snolybab says:

    tahW did yeht od? skooL ekil ew evah a melborp. I tog ruoy kcab leahciM. teL em wonk woh I nac pleh. eM dna ym syob lliw yap meht a elttil tisiv fi uoy tnaw su ot.

    yhw uoy raef eht krad bearD

  16. David says:

    I got a headache reading BD’s post.

  17. Please Note says:

    Too funny Dread!!! 8)


    Praying for the Holy Spirit to give you guidance as you yet again assess what god’s plan is for your life, and whether a blog is involved or not.

    Like everyone, I love the community, but I love you as well and will pray for the Spirit to clearly lead you to what God has in store for you these days.

    I count you now as friend and brother, blog or no blog.


  18. ( | o )====::: says:


    Michael, we’re all rooting for ya, so now the prayer support begins. Let us know what other kind of support you need as well.

  19. Please Note says:

    Ooops, didn’t mean for the little ‘g’ on God.

    Sorry everyone…sorry Lord ๐Ÿ˜‰

  20. Bob Sweat says:

    Contact Bentley to interpret what BD SAID.

  21. Dusty says:

    Please Note, how are you feeling friend? how is your recovery coming along?

  22. Dusty says:

    praying for you today Captain Kevin.

  23. centorian says:

    Bob…… 8)

  24. centorian says:

    uh, oh… I said Bob…. But, was referring to Bob’s remark not Bob. So I didn’t say Bob in the Bob sense to shake up london… 8)

  25. Dusty says:

    Centorian, it is starting to get warm out…are you iching to get your bike out?

  26. Glenn says:

    Did anyone watch Glenn Beck today? He didn’t know it, but he was
    giving a pretty good description on the “Moses Model” of government.
    At least that’s my take on it. (I didn’t watch the whole show!) :mrgreen:

  27. Glenn says:

    on = of, oops

  28. A E A says:

    Who is Babylon’s Dreab?

  29. A E A says:

    Or Draeb?

  30. beard snolybab says:

    Beck is a MORMON… and has an AGENDA… go slow with the KOOLAID

  31. A E A says:

    Ok Geek squad, is there any way to trace this back to a culprit?

  32. Xenia says:

    Good thing we have this alternative site.

  33. centorian says:

    Took a 60 loop on Sunday afternoon/evening. It was about 40 degrees…. but the weather has turned cold here again, it snowed last night.

  34. cash says:

    Does anyone know the legality of this (hacking)? Seems a pretty dastardly thing to do. If it’s not illegal, it should be. If it is, then it’d be good to hold whoever is responsible for this accountable.

  35. Believe says:

    Centy you are seriously funny.

    Guess that’s an oxymoron… ๐Ÿ™‚

  36. Believe says:

    Cash…there is this law on the books…but it pertains to Government Agency, Financial Institutions and information deemed “Critically Sensitive” to National Security…so it would be a stretch here…

    18 U.S.C. 1030

    However, if you could trace the hacker…there are Civil remedies (and some uncivil ones as well :smile:)

  37. brian says:

    You should call the FBI they take this stuff seriously now because of the potential situation. Also contact your service provider for the blog, they can trace some hacks, when you find the person I would press charges both state and federal.

  38. brian says:

    PS this is typical by the way.

  39. Isaiah56:1 says:

    I for one would really miss the blog, and the community here. In the last few weeks I have been challenged, encouraged and seen some pretty amazing dialog. It’s often a great mix of iron sharpening iron and fellowship.
    Unless the Lord clearly directs otherwise, I say don’t let the ba*****s win!

  40. BrianD says:

    I agree, Michael. But I’m not the one paying the price for this thing.

    It could be a sign from God, but it could also be part of living in a broken world…hackers and software both…or it could be the enemy trying to discourage you. The Holy Spirit will guide you, trust Him.

  41. Erunner says:

    This stinks! This has to be discouraging based on how often it happens. We have an awesome community of folks here who gather to learn, exchange ideas, to pray, and to ask for prayer. I saw 41 folks online earlier today. That’s awesome. My bias shows, doesn’t it?! Thanks for everything Michael.

  42. BrianD says:

    I tried to post everything since Sunday in order as they were posted on the PP. Linkathon would have been the latest post. Michael beat me to moving this thread to the top.

  43. BrianD says:

    Just trying to help.

  44. BrianD says:

    Well, in that case…

    I would like to give credit to our brothers, and buddies in Christ, Mark Driscoll, Scott Thomas and Jamie Munson.

    I figured a little sucking up might be helpful to us someday ๐Ÿ™‚

  45. Michael says:


    I’m amazed and honestly…finding a lot of comfort in seeing this.

    Thank you much!

  46. Dusty says:

    Ebrother, he is so adorable.

  47. Linnea says:

    ERunner…wow… having a grandchild changes your perspective, huh?

  48. Erunner says:

    Thanks Dusty and Linnea. Being a Grandparent is better than advertised!

  49. Dusty says:

    Ebrother, even better than chocolate- cherry blizzards? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  50. Erunner says:

    Dusty, He doesn’t make me gain weight! When I’m holding him and he smiles I’m in Heaven. But those Blizzards…. ๐Ÿ™‚

  51. Dusty says:

    “He doesnโ€™t make me gain weight!”

    lol….only a man can say that. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  52. Erunner says:

    Okay…. maybe I make me gain weight. Maybe….. but those delicious, satisfying, impeccable blizzards don’t help!

  53. filberts says:

    just checking in…be of good cheer.

  54. BrianD says:

    You’ll notice on the side that the recent posts and recent comments have been expanded, from 5 to 15 on the posts and 5 to 10 on the comments.

    This should make it easier to track things like the prayer thread, without having to move it up constantly for people to find it.

  55. Rob Murphy says:

    E runner – have you heard the song “The Saving One” by Starfield? I thought of your encouraging the family with worship songs, and that’s one that has really touched me over the last couple weeks. I got it on iTunes . . . I don’t know where else it’s available, just a thought, God brought you to mind this afternoon while I was playing it. Back to work, bye bye

  56. Believe says:

    I kind of like it in here…nice work BrianD and Michael…

  57. Glenn says:


    I don’t drink koolade – I prefer sweet tea.
    I also try to know the bias that people are
    coming from – I know Beck is LDS
    Greta Van Susteran is a Scientologist,
    Huckabee is Baptist and Shep Smith is
    an alum of Ole Miss……….. ๐Ÿ˜€

  58. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I thought just watching FOX was ‘drinking the koolaid.’

  59. Erunner says:

    Thanks Rob. Every Saturday I post music on my blog and this will be one of them this coming weekend. If you’ve never visited here’s a link to the music from this past week. I am always looking for nice music to share so feel free to suggest stuff any time you want.

  60. jlo says:

    Erunner, those pics are amazing, God is good. congrates on your new addition.

  61. Lutheran says:

    Glenn Beck is a complete and utter moron. He would’ve made a fine SS Storm Trooper.

    I would guess 70-80% of the American church believes in pursuing social justice issues in one form or another.

    I can’t believe anyone would take anything he says seriously, especially about religion.

    I like one headline: “Glenn Beck to Jesus: Drop Dead”!

  62. Glenn says:

    I can tell who’s Erunner’s best buddy. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  63. Glenn says:

    MLD – the real koolaid is on Coast to Coast AM with
    George Noory or Art Bell – but just some of the time. :mrgreen:

  64. Erunner says:

    There are times when I visit a website that it has moved to a different place. What happens is that after a few seconds I’m automatically sent to the new site. Is that a possibility with and Hope things can be resolved soon.

  65. Michael says:


    I’m not sure.

    I have every intention of getting the .com fixed.

    What happens when we get hacked is that it gives us the opportunity to make needed changes to better serve our purposes.

    The .coms database is huge…and in reality, WordPress software isn’t equipped to handle it.

    I have an early doctors appt this morning, then I’ll be back to see what I want to do with everything.

  66. Not Alone says:

    Best wishes to you Michael. Lots of work ahead.

  67. Jerry F says:

    Took me a while…oh, there you are! Glad there’s this second site. Ah, it’s good to know you’re buggin’ the enemy. Shows it’s working—HAA! Atta baby, Jesus. Gunna be almost 50 today. Time for a bike ride and some pedal praise. OOO-HOOO!

  68. Bob Sweat says:

    I’m having a “pity party” this morning. Maybe you Calvary pastors can help me. A little background…………..As you know, I spend my pastoral years in a non Calvary Church. Consequently, I taught each Sunday for 30-40 minutes. In the 10 years that I have been attending CC churches, the pastors have taught from 45-60 minutes. In fact, I have, at time, detected a hint that anything less than 45 minutes in not a good teaching. Now, there have been times where I have been blessed by 45+ minutes of teaching, but there have also been times when I have felt that the pastor could have landed the plane 15-20 minutes earlier.

    I don’t often get to speak in cc churches, but last night I had the opportunity to teach at the Wednesday night study. My pastor asked me to take up where he left of last week, so the Scripture was not my choice, but nevertheless I studied and taught. I felt good after I closed in prayer. I stepped down from the platform and the first comment I received was, “You quit too early”. You know, in my 22 years of teaching the Scriptures I have often times been criticized, most of the time it didn’t bother me, but that comment last night made me feel like a stick had been driven in my heart. I told my wife afterward that I would never agree to fill the pulpit at another CC. If 35 minutes wasn’t good enough, then they won’t have to worry about hearing me again!

    Now, I feel better. ๐Ÿ™‚ Sorry for the rant. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  69. paigemom says:

    Bob, in the words of Paul on the island of Malta : ‘shake it off and keep building the fire’.
    have a nice/r day

  70. Lutheran says:


    I’m not a Calvary pastor…

    But my heart goes out to you. The Calvary system sounds just as rigid as any other
    “religious” system.

    Would it have been so tough for the first comment to be, “Thanks for filling in”? Sheesh.

    45 minutes? Is that in the Bible? A Lutheran seminary prof. I know who teaches future pastors advises 20 minutes. In Luther’s time, an hour to an hour and a half was common.

    I don’t see why it has to be so friggin’ rigid.

    Sounds like this is one of those unwritten “rules of men” that CC leaders love to whine about.

    In a dysfunctional church system, these unwritten rules have a lot more power than the visible ones.

  71. paigemom says:

    Michael, I believe you already know MrFixit’s opinion about WordPress…. time to move to a dif platform he says. Hacks on WP blogs are common.
    Hope you are ok….
    Thanks for all you do. You’ve definitely blessed me/us.

  72. Believe says:

    Bob S…you didn’t fill the time slot they had for you properly. You threw off the show. The first rule of programming is “no dead air…ever!” Get it together man! (sarc)

    Was this a pew sitter that said this to you…or pastoral staff / elder / board member (leadership) that said this?

    …and it’s better to let it out than to hold it in, IMO. You should express these thoughts to the individual…unless it was a pew sitter…then just suck it up and move on after venting (IMO).

    I can see how that would be very frustrating…to put your heart into that message…and have the focus be on “time”…

  73. ( | o )====::: says:

    Break the bloody Calvary Chapel mold! BE YOURSELF and ignore the idiotic criticism about length and turn it back around and make it about :: depth, content and application:: . If you have a blessed 10 min of unfilled time then immediately go INTERACTIVE with the group. Ask for “one word impact statements”, then as each person says their word write it down on your notes so when they’re done you can wrap up into “things to pray about, and be sure to come up and talk with me a little more…”. You will have made immediate heart connections with those who speak those words and emboldened the more timid ones to seek you out so you can personally love on them.

  74. BrianD says:

    I would have just blown it off, like a stream of pee-pee pouring out of somebody’s mouth…you know it’s no good.

    But I understand the part about the dagger in your heart. If I had your experiences, and given that I would be hoping to make a good impression and bless the people there, I would have been hurt, bitter, angry, crushed myself.

    Don’t worry about it. It’s one person’s opinion. The devil likes to use stuff like that to discourage you. Don’t let him take you down. Be led by the Father. His say is the one that counts.

  75. Dave Rolph says:


    I would consider it a compliment that someone wished you had gone longer. I’d rather have everyone wish I’d said more than to have people who wished I’d quit earlier. By the way, this isn’t really a Calvary thing. Look how long Driscoll preaches. Longer sermons are becoming the norm. On Sunday mornings, for the last 40 years or more, Pastor Chuck has preached a half hour or less.

  76. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I like grendal’s comment “Ask for โ€œone word impact statementsโ€, then as each person says their word write it down on your notes…” except I would change one thing – after they shout out their one word ‘impact statement’ I would say – “no, you’re wrong!” ๐Ÿ™‚

    Bob, don’t fret too much. We need to look at these things more like a dog – “if you can’t eat it or hump it, just piss on it and walk away.”

    Sorry if it sounds offensive to any tender ears, but it had to be said. ๐Ÿ™‚

  77. Jeff Stewart says:


    Quit too early?, man now i have heard everything, I am assuming by your reaction to the comment that it wasn’t delivered in a we wanted more sort of a way? …… any case, I would love to have someone fill my pulpit who was done early, as opposed to droning on without an end in sight, which by the way is what I fear I often do…..keep your head up, I would be honored to have you fill my pulpit

    and it is an interesting point you bring up as to whether the length of the message is prized in some CC circles……my experience maybe and if so it probably comes from the sr pastor telling everyone how the “seekers” will only tolerate “mini sermons” thus implying if you want to be a “mature Christian” you should love tedious bible teaching:)

  78. centorian says:

    you quite too early…. much I could say about that, but I’ll pass.

    One of my favorite pastors seemed to end his message and closing prayer right at the 1 1/2 hour mark. I thought there were times when God had moved and spoken to us and continuing past that was like closing the damper on a woodstove. None the less, this man taught me well and I was willing to endure his ruts. There are times when I have had another fifteen minutes and felt the Lord had spoken and finished…

    For your pastor to tell you to pick up where he left of is in my opinion, and expression of great trust by him to you. I know of guys who won’t let someone touch the text that they will be teaching out of…. Consider it an honor.

    What I have found about people is that they don’t like there rhythm disrupted. If the purpose is to minister the word to a group of people (and I know that is your heart) better to acquiesce to what they are used to than be a potential barrier to them receiving from God. Yes there are times to break a mold, but those decisions must be made with great care and conviction. This isn’t about you and your self expression, it is about feeding the flock… and I know you know that too.

    One other thing to consider is the more the people hear you share, the more comfortable they will be. They will learn what to expect. People don’t like their boat rocked. The comment you received was misspoken and inappropriate…… typical of church people…
    I never cease to be amazed by the objections I hear about things that are of little importance. People will miss the whole message because I’ve told them a story and not named the individuals and they can’t wait to ask me who they were. I don’t tell them.

  79. Bob Sweat says:

    You guys have made me smile and laugh! Thanks for the encouragement. It was just a rough night. I thought that I had really nailed the passage, and then those words. Anyway, my wife told me it was the best teaching that she had ever heard from me. But she’s my wife. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Thanks again, love you guys!

  80. Jerry F says:

    Yeah, but 40 people were glad because they got to go home and watch the last 30 minutes of American Idol. I wish I’d been there cause I’ll be it was the best 35 minute bible study they have heard in quite some time. Someone else (not you) was missing out–and not just the message.

  81. Tim says:

    Bob –
    Be encouraged. If God gave you 35 minutes worth of teaching, then why feel the need to go beyond it? I’d rather have 30 minutes of solid teaching straight from the Bible lifting up Jesus Christ than 50 minutes of filler.

    For what it’s worth, it’s rare that I go over 45 minutes in teaching. If I’ve gone past 50 minutes, it’s either an unusual circumstance, or I think I should have split up the teaching into 2 parts.

  82. Sister Christian says:

    Bob Sweat,

    Dave Rolph speaks well saying;
    I would consider it a compliment that someone wished you had gone longer.
    Be blessed and encouraged!


    It seems from past history that the site has been taken down just before some wonderful breakthroughs.

    As Dusty and I were praying last night for you, this site and the people here;
    I realized that this is one of the few sites where people from all denominations and non denominations of the Christian Faith can meet together and discuss important topics regarding Doctrine, Church polity, praises, prayers for each other, and speak of a host of other key issues.

    Also, a bridge is being formed between the pastoral and the laity of the church…
    a bridge of communication, open and honest, of light and truth, and understanding.
    We a s a community have been developing the art of conflict resolution instead of the typical “shut out” and “cut off” practices we have sadly seen exemplified in the churches.

    This is a small, yet, grand step in motion towards unity in love and caring for the best interest of others, to learn and grow together in the grace and knowledge of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, equipping and encouraging one another through trials of fire for the work of the ministry,

    Press onward Christian soldier,
    be strong and of Good Courage
    knowing the Lord is with You!

  83. JimB says:


    Both of the elders that teach for me whenever I am gone do good to get out 35 minutes of teaching. And, I’m always happy and blessed to know that what they have shared is from the Word and therefore will edify the body. I tell them that they have to have hands laid on them and be ordained as a pastor to receive the hot air that it takes to last 45 min. or more…

  84. Psalm62 says:

    i’ve been trying to get an HP printer and a netbook to agree for 2 days – maybe i did it – all my displays were messed up and you guys told me that i was ‘forbidden’ access until i finally snuck in thru a google search

    i thot God was telling me to stay on task ๐Ÿ™‚

    BTW – if God wanted this site shut down, He wouldn’t mess around witcha i don’t think…

  85. Psalm62 says:

    Bob received a comment that he quit too early? Sounds like something this pew-sitter would say and it would be intended as a compliment ๐Ÿ˜•

    a huge smile and a ‘why thank you, i’ll remember that’ seems an appropriate response – after the fact – works either way, doesn’t it?

    back to trying to find out how to tweek a shiny new black and enigmatic printer with an idiotic and irrelevant touch control screen inferring that my little netbook with windows7 who is a liar when it is telling me that they’ve sent the request to print to the printer and that it is in the spool and …. new definition of black box here
    will the IRS accept this and give me a filing pass???
    i vented, but i don’t feel any better…

  86. Psalm62 says:

    Please Note:”Michael-

    Praying for the Holy Spirit to give you guidance as you yet again assess what godโ€™s plan is for your life, and whether a blog is involved or not.”

    i’ll be joining in this prayer today – May God’s mighty arm prevail over Satan’s attack on a man who has a heart for God

  87. Bob Sweat says:

    Gee, just heard from my pastor, and he wants me to finish what I started last night. I told him I might only have another 5 minutes. ๐Ÿ™‚

  88. Jerry F says:

    Bob- HA, HA, HA!

  89. Jessica Menn says:

    I agree with those who think you should take that person’s comment as a compliment. It’s was probably just their way of saying they really liked your sermon.

    Personally, I’m all for short sermons. I’ve been going to a lutheran church recently and their entire service is only an hour long, which I really like. It doesn’t drag and everything is to the point. I hate it when pastors drag their sermons out when they could just as easily make the same points in a shorter period of time.

  90. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Do you go to the pastor’s Bible class on Sunday’s also?

  91. Jessica Menn says:

    That class is at 9:15 in the morning, so, no, no I don’t go to it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Actually, I think they do that class on one of the weekday evenings also, maybe I should check it out then, but I am just not a morning person so the reality is I’m just probably not going to get their at 9:15.

  92. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Actually, check and see if they have an Adult Information Class. It is abbreviated catechism class for adults. Kinda like Catechism for Dummies. ๐Ÿ™‚

  93. Another Voice says:

    Bob, I’ve been told that a few times and it was always meant in a complimentary fashion by people I already knew. I wasn’t there, but it would seem that would be the idea. So I’m in agreement with Dave Rolph and the others.

    I did have an unbeliever tell his believing family member (who invited him) that ‘the pastor spoke too long’ – I took that as a compliment too. ๐Ÿ™‚

  94. puzzletop says:

    The next time someone tells me how talented, clever and smart some teenager is at hacking, I’m going to slap the snot out of them. I caught one today destroying our lab at work. Stupid little twit is so smart he still got caught. HA!

  95. oden fong says:


    I was trying to figure out how to trim my studies down to a half hour. I’ll condense and condense until there is just pure “word” without fluff. I’m blessed that you are teaching …PERIOD!

  96. Dusty says:

    Oden, ha, there is never fluff in your messages. pure word, yes.

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