The Ashley Madison Mess
Josh Duggar is the first to go down…
So, I got an email asking if I was going to go through 32 million email addresses to see who I could nail.
That would be… no.
I would think that most people using a site like this would use a pseudonym and would be difficult to trace.
My guess is that we might see some high profile divorce papers filed in the next few months without details being released.
This is just another tragedy that shows us the depths of sin in our collective souls and the need for revival in the land.
A lot of people are going to be hurt, a lot of families broken, and a lot of healing and counseling needed.
The truth will come out…we just have to be ready to deal with it.
That’s just it; many of the subscribers used their .gov and .mil address when they signed up. No anonymity there. Don’t overrate the collective (un)intelligence in this regard.
As my sister once said: “Sin makes you stupid.” And so it proves.
Sadly.. a lot of children are going to suffer because dad or mom chose to be sinfully irresponsible.
Laura,
That is insane.
That goes way beyond stupid.
Dude…that will be the worst result of this debacle.
From USA Today:
“There were at least 13,000 addresses from military and government emails with .mil and .gov addresses.”
So much damage to come.
I’ve been so out of it that it just dawned on me while I was writing this how much damage there is to come…
What is equally disturbing is the indiscriminate fascination of Christians with this woefully dysfunctional family. How many times have I heard someone talk about the fact that they’re Christians, they pray, blah, blah blah. I have never watched a single minute of this “reality” show because the whole spectacle seemed creepy to me. I would read articles, hear about the “dating, courting, non-kissing” policies and just found it all odd.
There had to be so much pressure on the kids, after mommy and daddy signed a contract to have their lives on TV for the world to see. I don’t feel sorry for Josh, the molester/adulterer, but I can only imagine what life in the fishbowl must have been.
I’ve also had well-meaning Christians tell me that I ought to watch Duck Dynasty, because they’re Christians. So what? Why should any of that be of interest to me? Voyeurism seems to be sanctified just as long as those we’re watching happen to believe in Jesus.
There is very little that is “real” about reality TV.
DavidM,
I’m right there with you…I’ve never seem either program, nor do I care to.
I learned there was an AM site here, and now we’re following the progress of the leak…
I don’t get the interest in the sins of the world. They’re doing what they do. My county has strip clubs and hookers and hook up bars. I’m neither surprised nor interested.
Jim,
It’s probably going to have an impact on all of us in ministry.
It’s funny when we get our nose bent that no one seems to be challenging the ethics or moral standing of the folks who stole this information and made it public. If lives are destroyed or affected by this, perhaps these are the people who should have a bullet put ni their heads.
I find myself not nearly as interested in this debacle as I am in the Planned Parenthood videos. I am utterly broken about what’s happening on the abortion front in this country, and with federal money to boot.
i am in agreement with MLD on this – we live in a society with a toxic, voyeuristic attitude that sees man’s sexuality as sport – a game
minds are programmed by what we take in, what we concentrate on… the brain is a wonderful organ if man only realized what we are doing to ourselves when we kill the conscience – it is one thing to talk the talk and quite another to walk it
I read that over 90% of the women profiles were fake. Created by the adultery purveyors to give the illusion there were lots of women available. In fact, I read they’re being sued over that.
Someone else will now figure out a way extort money from anyone on that list promising to expunge their name for a ransom, errrr, I mean fee.
Evidently it was simple to sign up for with very little verification involved. In this day and age it blows my mind anyone would go on line and supply information for the chance to get into fornication and adultery. Shouldn’t be surprised that the first celebrity exposed is a believer already dealing with molestation issues. Matt Walsh wrote an interesting post on FB about this.
Millions of people who used Ashley Madison are angry right now that their trust was betrayed…
I read the story involving Duggar. They said the names were released on the dark web, which I know exists but have no idea how or desire to access. Apparently the hackers were upset the site did not ‘deliver’ (and were not upset about adultery). I imagine very few people will be “outed” unless you are famous. However, ones credit card info would be at risk.
***There had to be so much pressure on the kids, after mommy and daddy signed a contract to have their lives on TV for the world to see. I don’t feel sorry for Josh, the molester/adulterer, but I can only imagine what life in the fishbowl must have been.***
I can sympathize with him up until the point he got married and impregnated his wife for the first time.. At that point he should have manned up and done what he needed to do to keep his family off the air and out of the public eye. He, as a husband and father, chose to remain a part of that tv show, and at that point I don’t think it can be blamed on his parents as creepy as they may be.
Re Josh Duggar (who I had never heard of before he came up a couple of months ago) – I wonder if he is in a similar situation as some of the fallen pastors. The “but he is such a good teacher”) and should be restored.
Will anyone call out “well he had such good family position papers and stances with Focus on the Family, he needs to be restored and put back in his position.”
This AM situation is an example of Sin being a bait and switch game. It promises a person what they think they want and then under-delivers or gives them something they never wanted in the first place.
This just makes the gospel so much better. We can speak to folks how Jesus died for ALL our sins, including the ones that we think are secret. I am not exempt from temptation and sin even if its only in my mind. Even if I never act on a sinful impulse, I am still as guilty as the person who did. That doesn’t give me the free reign to then go ahead and do it – that would be even worse.
“The gospel of justifying faith means that while Christians are, in themselves still sinful and sinning, yet in Christ, in God’s sight, they are accepted and righteous. So we can say that we are more wicked than we ever dared believe, but more loved and accepted in Christ than we ever dared hope — at the very same time. This creates a radical new dynamic for personal growth. It means that the more you see your own flaws and sins, the more precious, electrifying, and amazing God’s grace appears to you. But on the other hand, the more aware you are of God’s grace and acceptance in Christ, the more able you are to drop your denials and self-defenses and admit the true dimensions and character of your sin.”
― Timothy Keller
That’s the Gospel, Papias. Thank you for sharing.
Just my take on this whole AM thing.
It proves:
1. Women and men are different.
2. One is born everyday (I don’t mean women or men, something I believe Mr PT said).
3. The reality rarely lives up to the promise of the eyes.
4. What’s the difference between those who participate at AM and those who lust after the “prosperity” message of many.
5. If men fail so regularly in this area what are the AMs for the large percentage of women?
Just some thoughts.
One more; eating at Subway will help one stay slim, but doesn’t help one’s mind stay slim.
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It was bound to happen: Brian Krebs reports that extortionists have begun emailing people whose information is included in the leaked Ashleymadison.com user database, threatening to find and contact the target’s spouse and alert them if the recipient fails to cough up 1 Bitcoin. ($234.25)
Krebs interviews
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/extortionists-target-ashley-madison-users/
one guy who got such a demand, a user who admits to having had an affair after meeting a woman on the site and who is now worried about the fallout, which he said could endanger his happily married life with his wife and kids.
Perhaps inevitable: two Canadian law firms have filed a class action lawsuit against the company, seeking more than half a billion dollars in damages.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ashley-madison-faces-578m-canadian-class-action-lawsuit/2015/08/21/b9ea2670-483b-11e5-9f53-d1e3ddfd0cda_story.html
An interesting article: http://undermuchgrace.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/will-anna-duggar-be-offered-as-next.html
caught a quick scan of Nonnie’s link… food for thought, but i actually hope that Anna Duggar and her husband will yet salvage a God-designed family unit… i don’t think the Duggars are bad or demented (sometimes that might be debatable, i know), just straining to be something that is, in reality, a plasticized version of the faith … we need to pray for that whole scenario to experience, by God’s grace, a move into living in the Faith without a pretense of dedication that is IMV an act – intentional or not
are they a strange bunch? in my world, they are that, but… are they evil? God knows – i don’t