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  1. LInn says:

    Oh, Michael…so sad to here how bad things are in your area. It is not as bad in my area (high vaccination rate in Silicon Valley), but there is real fear as under age 12 children are returning to school-all masked by governor’s order. I go back next week to my students, and i am praying about my own underlying anxiety. it’s more about them than about me. God always promises to take His children though, and I’m leaning on that. John 16:33-no matter what the outcome. I know the tribulation may stay, but He is with us.

  2. Michael says:


    My beloved valley is in bad shape…this morning, Covid is burning through what the fire burned through a year ago…smoke from other fires is so thick that I’m having respiratory issues. Businesses are closing from lack of employees and Covid breakouts and people are exhausted and angry.
    Still, I woke up believing God will use all this for our good and His glory…I don’t know how, but he will.
    We’ll be praying for you as you serve him by serving the little ones…

  3. Dan from Georgia says:

    Amen to #6 Michael.

    In the spirit of “Make your own application”….

    Me….my manager told me to work from home tomorrow. I developed a sore throat yesterday afternoon, and have some fatigue (partly from a tough gym session no doubt). My colds usually start with a sore throat. This time we are not messing around. Took a COVID test this morning and will find out in 1-2 days.

    As an aside: I am beginning to question the motives and thinking of most anti-maskers. No you are not giving in to the “beast”, being a “sheep”, or surrendering your rights. You are protecting yourself and others, and stop cherry-picking your online sources when you “do the research”. You are not an expert in virology by reading Facebook or a few online articles. Let the EXPERTS do their job and stay in your lane. Yes, I said EXPERTS, and if you don’t like that, ask yourself why.

    Lastly, #10 is really tough!

  4. Linn says:

    Thank you! I am one of the privileged in the SF Bay Area where most people believe COVID is real and we have the highest vaccination rate in the country. However, people still are getting sick-either the scoffers (I know a few) or those who are afraid (that would be some of our ethnic communities with scant access to good information or fear of deportation). The latter group are my friends/”family” and I preach the gospel of free, no-question vaccination. Some of them have taken care of it. No smoke so far this year, but the mountains south of us haven’t caught fire-yet. It’s terrible to be waiting for fire season every fall.

  5. Michael says:


    Praying loudly that you just have a cold…and amen to the rest of the comment!

  6. Michael says:

    “It’s terrible to be waiting for fire season every fall.”

    It is messing with mind pretty bad this year…

  7. Duane Arnold says:


    There will come a time when people will look back and consider what happened. I would like to think it will be a nuanced view, but I have my doubts. In such a backward view, 20 years hence, the cult-like behavior of a political faction will, I believe, be seen for what it is in reality with its followers being reckoned as either deceivers or the deceived. Unfortunately the actions of the churches will likely be judged by the most strident voices in this present calamity and will be condemned. This may be an unjust condemnation, but history often employs a broad brush. I fear we may be watching a distorted perception of Christianity in the future being constructed by the fringe elements of the present…

  8. Michael says:

    ” I fear we may be watching a distorted perception of Christianity in the future being constructed by the fringe elements of the present…”

    I wish I’d written that…and fear that history is already being written…

  9. Jean says:

    If someone were to perform a poll or study of the current hospitalized from Covid, and were that to substantiate that the vast majority of the hospitalized are unvaccinated, and the poll asked about religious affiliation, distinguishing between conservative/liberal and/or weekly worshiper/once or less a month, I wonder what the data would show?

    I would hate to see the stress on hospitals and damage to the economy from this current surge, and increased deaths and long hall illnesses, traced to a committed, self-centered Christian faith. It would be the very antithesis of what biblical Christianity is all about.

  10. Michael says:


    It’s not that simple…the same hospital I referenced is dealing with an internal Covid outbreak…because many on staff are refusing the shot.

    There is already data that correlates religious and political belief with vaccine hesitancy…and it shows just what you would think it does…

  11. Linn says:


    One of my dearest friends was a nurse and then a nursing supervisor for decades. I found out just last year that she is anti-vax. I couldn’t believe it! It had come up with flu vaccines (which is a dead virus) and she didn’t get it. It was still putting the flu into her system. !!!! She also yelled at me and stopped speaking to me for several months because I voted for the other guy and not Mr. T. I doubt she has had a COVID vaccine. Medical logic doesn’t seem to follow this stuff, but political logic does. By the way, we are still friends, but we don’t discuss politics by mutual agreement. Our love for God won out on that topic, and I’m thankful.

  12. Em says:

    i confess to being out of the loop, so i don’t know why many are refusing the vaccine…
    However, our governor-so-called just mandated that all health care workers in this state MUST be vaccinated. My daughter, who is very smart BTW, says that many in her unit (acute care dialysis) are saying that they’ll quit before taking the vaccine. Her sister was vaccinated, passed blood in her urine for days and it messed with her lungs also. One male nurse says that he will go back into his family’s construction business before he’ll follow Inslee’s mandate.
    Am i going to be vaccinated? Probably not, but not for “religious” reasons….
    Mark of the beast? Only an ignorant person would fall for that. IMHO
    Yes, I do mask up whenever i’m out among people. And i will get vaccinated when they come up with a tested and safe vaccine. What they are pumping into people now is not what we think of as a vaccine. It works quite differently. I had it explained to me, but i’m not smart enough to pass that on – except that it is indiscriminate in what cells it occupies. My point is?
    Don’t blame all refusers for being ignoramuses.
    But what do i know 🙂

  13. Xenia says:

    I have observed that many of the extreme anti-vaxxers have plenty to say about how “they” are trying to deceive us but they don’t have a good explanation for “their” end-game. They will say “they” are trying to control us but I can’t see how this works, exactly. If I were trying to control a population, I’d see to it that as many people got sick and died as possible because I’d want to thin out and weaken the populace. Saving their lives seems counter-productive. Maybe the anti-vaxxers are being controlled… by someone, but probably not who they think.

    Someone the other day informed me that the vaccine is “weaponized bio-tech.” Again, for what purpose? They say the mask mandates are to condition us to obey the government. That’s just plain dumb.

    They say they refuse to live in fear but they are the most fearful people I know. A few I know are just frothing with agitation. Those of us who got the shots seem pretty calm, from what I’ve noticed.

  14. bob1 says:

    That’s just plain dumb.

    Sadly, there’s a great deal of that going around today.

  15. Jean says:

    If someone working in a hospital or clinic refuses to get vaccinated, then IMO they should seek other employment. They are a risk to themselves and others, and in a health care setting the others are typically medically vulnerable and mostly not there voluntarily.

  16. Em says:

    Jean, you know not whereof you speak. Yes, they will have to “seek other employment.”
    There is a great deal being hid from us regarding what this covid vaccine does inside us. If you took it and have had no side effects, thank God. Indeed, thank God. Not all are so fortunate

  17. Kevin H says:

    When one follows all the claims of “they” and adds them up, one finds that seemingly the large majority of the people of the world are in on this plot to control us and and take away our freedoms and destroy us.

    Anyone who advocates for masks and vaccines are seemingly with “them”. So this would include the large majority of doctors and scientists, not to speak of many other “non-experts”.

    Anyone who advocates for the need to address systemic racism is seemingly with “them”. So this would cover many historians, sociologists, pastors, politicians, and many other “common folk”.

    Anyone who espouses that this last election wasn’t rigged is with “them”.

    Anyone who is “for” gun control is with “them”.

    Anyone who advocates for policies to address is climate change is with “them”.

    And so on and so on.

    In the end, it would appear to be one big plot where seemingly at least 90% of the people of the world (or at least in this nation) are in on it and it’s the “patriots” who are left fighting this evil, marxist, conspiratorial takeover. Now how on earth you would get hundreds of millions of people to not only agree to such a plan but also keep it under wraps so that the plan is never exposed in any palpable fashion, I have no idea. But people are more than convinced that “they” are doing it.

  18. Jean says:

    And the Moderna, J&J and Moderna vaccines are vaccines. And they as safe as other vaccines and as or more effective than just about any other vaccines. I don’t care what the Marjorie Taylor Greene, My Pillow, Rand Paul or Maria Bartaromo has to say about them. They are the ones who want fame at your expense, not Governor Inslee or Dr. Fauci.

  19. Jean says:


    If you have esoteric, secret, non-public, and/or Holy Spirit negative info on the vaccines, think about it: Is it possible that little old you (not old as in age, but as in a random civilian living in the Pacific Northwest) would have scandalous, game changing non-public negative info on the most important, most talked about, most researched, most reported on drugs in the world? Is that possible???

    Have some perspective. You are being shoveled horse manure. To think that your sources are more credible than governments and health bodies worldwide is simply naive and arrogant.

    All data that emerges, regarding side effects, is reported as it is confirmed. No one is hiding side effects and, to be frank, there are far too many medical, research, health professionals and government employees involved with the vaccine to be able to keep a secret even if someone wanted to.

    It is the scandalous misinformation that people like you imbibe and then spread that is partially responsible for tents being erected all over the South to cope with the latest surge, which was preventable.

  20. Michael says:


    I am connected to may in the medical community here…and know many who won’t get vaccinated and will have to lose their jobs if mandated to do so.

    They have real concerns and I will not write them off over this matter.

    We have no clue what the long term effects are…

  21. CM says:


    For starters, health care workers are required to be vaccinated for all kinds of things besides COVID. Everything from Tetanus, to Hep A & B, and so on. I say if they refuse the vaccine, then they need to find another line of work and don’t let the door hit them in a*s on the way out. PERIOD.

    Kevin H: To be blunt, all this conspiracy bulls*it is basically Gnosticism and certainly not Christian. PERIOD. They conveniently ignore Occam’s Razor and Hanlon’s Razor because it goes against their narrative and their “special” insight into What Is Really Going On (just like the Gnostics of old).

    For those of not familiar with Hanlon’s Razor, here it is:

    “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (or incompetence).”

  22. Michael says:

    Some of you may get your wish and we lose these dedicated nurses and doctors.
    Just be aware that we already have a critical shortage of health care workers that is getting more severe by the day…you may wish for one if you find yourself in the hospital…

  23. Xenia says:

    You know, there may be some unforeseen long term effects from these shots, but, because I am trying to love my neighbor as well as loving God, I feel I must take the shots if I ever intend to go out in public because I don’t know who is in the crowd with me. Some people may have seriously compromised immune systems, like my daughter. Don’t we care about the other people in our communities or is it all about us and our pet theories?

  24. Xenia says:

    I suspect many will change their minds before they decide to quit their jobs.

    Those who don’t had better stay the heck away from my daughter and those like her.

  25. Jean says:


    I am not writing them off. I actually feel sincerely sorry for them. But I don’t want them in contact with the sick and diseased during a pandemic. When you were having open heart surgery, I would not have wanted any unvaccinated workers anywhere near you. If they were, then praise God your vaccine protected you.

  26. Michael says:


    Vaccinated people can transmit the virus as well as the unvaccinated.
    We are wearing N95’s everywhere to protect others and ourselves…and I’m very vaccinated.

  27. Michael says:


    As I said you may get your wish…but be careful what you wish for.

    Very soon here the problem will move from not having any beds to not having the staff to care for anymore beds…which leads to the same problem.

  28. Jean says:

    I personally hope that booster shots are authorized for my age category before winter. I would like for my family and I to enter flu season with a strong load of Covid antibodies. We go to the gym, church and like to eat out, and will feel more free to engage in those activities having strong antibody protections.

  29. Michael says:

    MEDFORD, Ore. — Jackson County continues to break records for new coronavirus cases and hospitalizations, with public health officials reporting at least 267 cases on Tuesday, a new record. Hospitalizations for patients infected with the virus also continued to rise locally, hitting unprecedented levels.

    Jackson County’s last daily record was set less than two weeks ago on July 30, with 188 cases.

    “The majority of cases that we’re seeing in Oregon are related to the Delta variant — we know it’s more contagious, it’s more serious,” said Tanya Phillips, health promotion manager for Jackson County Public Health. “So we’re seeing an increase in cases that I don’t think, for us, we ever . . . it’s always been our fear, but we didn’t think that the fear would come true.”

    Phillips indicated that while Jackson County Public Health will report 267 cases for Tuesday, there are more case reports that public health staff have not yet been able to sort through.

    “We have so many cases and not enough staff, we still have more to go through,” Phillips said. “So these next few days, we will set records, again.”

    Across hospitals in Jackson and Josephine counties, Oregon’s Region 5, officials reported 136 people hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Tuesday morning. Of those people, 38 were in an intensive care unit and 14 were on a ventilator.

    “If we’re talking about capacity, it’s maxed,” said Lauren Van Sickle, senior public relations specialist for Asante. “If we’re talking about patient ages, I just got notified this morning that patients in our hospital range in age from two — that’s 2 years old — to 93. So, it’s shocking, it’s scary, it’s . . . I’m really at a loss for words.”

    Van Sickle said that more than 90 percent of patients currently hospitalized for COVID-19 at Asante hospitals are unvaccinated, and the patients they are seeing tend to be sicker, younger, and have a faster rate of decline in their condition with the advent of the Delta variant. According to recently corrected data from the Oregon Health Authority, 82 percent of coronavirus deaths statewide in July were among unvaccinated people.

    “I think when we look at those numbers, and we think ‘this could be prevented,’ then the message of ‘get vaccinated’ really resonates,” Van Sickle continued.

    Asante Rogue Regional Medical Center is also dealing with an outbreak of the virus among staff, with more than 60 cases linked to the medical center since early July. A sampling of these cases were sent out for genomic sequencing, and the Oregon Health Authority said that all were identified as the Delta variant. Van Sickle said that about 64 percent of Asante employees are vaccinated.

    Phillips urged people to do their part in order to curb the current unabated spread of coronavirus. That means getting vaccinated, Phillips said, but also following the current public health recommendations for wearing masks indoors regardless of vaccination status.

    “Even if you’re vaccinated, please wear a mask,” Phillips said. “And get vaccinated. We have a tool now that we know helps prevent hospitalization, severe illness, and death. So we have a tool that works, we just need more people to access that and get that as well . . . and wear masks and do those other non-pharmaceutical interventions that we talk about.”

  30. Em says:

    Jean @1:52pm
    looks like lil ol me hit a nerve there….. 🙂

  31. Jean says:

    Michael at 2:56 pm,

    So, what do you think your fellow clergy in your county would make of that notice and plea?

  32. Jean says:


    Maybe it’s a sign you should (or at least have the talent to) host a talk show.

  33. Michael says:


    I live in the middle of Calvary Chapels everywhere…and Medford is Trump country.

    Most of my fellow clergy here think I’m a son of a bitch and are not in favor of any mitigations.

    There are of course, exceptions.

  34. Michael says:


    If you want to know about the Christian climate here…that spreads it’s influence through the state and into CA…here you go.

    Check out the guest list on “Focus Today”…

  35. Jean says:

    So they do not teach their members (or is it attendees?) to honor their civil leaders?

  36. Em says:

    M!ichael an SOB ? I think not ! ! !
    Well maybe once in a while……. LOL

    Jean, ummmm don think so…. But, if pressed….. maybeee

  37. Michael says:


    Covid mitigations are considered exercises in government tyranny…and they believe that ungodly leaders are in control and they have no responsibility to honor them.

  38. Michael says:

    “Well maybe once in a while……. LOL”

    I didn’t say they were wrong… 🙂

  39. Jean says:

    But Michael, what do they think of the surge and pressure on hospitals? Isn’t that tyranny on health workers?

  40. Michael says:


    I don’t know how they reconcile these things…I just know I don’t go to church here…

  41. Linn says:

    I’ve seen a few online articles that claim that the deaths aren’t real, it’s just a bad flu, counts are inflated-for me that’s harder to believe than the existence of the actual virus

  42. Jean says:


    One of the positive side effects I experienced last winter was no case of the flu. I usually catch a cold/flu every winter, Typically sore throat, coughing and runny nose. Last year, because of distancing and masking, I thankfully made it through an entire fall/winter without any respiratory symptoms at all.

  43. Jean says:

    When it comes to the topics of church clergy abuse and information on Covid, I think Michael serves as a prophet in the best NT sense of the term.

    When I am exposed to the Christian sources which pervade Michael’s world, such as the link he posted at 3:22 pm, I completely understand his pessimism regarding Evangelical Christianity.

    I believe that if an alien from another planet (assuming aliens and UFOs exist for purposes of this illustration) came to Earth to study human religions, he would likely conclude that there were at least two Christs, maybe more.

  44. Xenia says:

    Well Jean, according to one relative, the reason fewer people had the flu last year was actually everyone who had the flu were being diagnosed as Covid cases for propaganda purposes! ( But there were fewer flu cases, as you say, because of masks and staying home. )

    Also, a person in real life told me s/he personally knows two people who became quadriplegics after getting the vaccine, in our area. I simply do not believe this. I don’t know if this usually honest person is lying or deluded but I suspect the latter.

  45. Dan from Georgia says:

    A few days ago I had a candid chat with a co-worker about news sources. I was asked if I ever listened to/read alternative news sources. She didn’t identify what sources, but I am assuming she was referring to OAH, Newsmax and Epoch Times. She later told me that she is trying to ween herself off the online conspiracies and other such time-consuming, and panic-inducing news. I commended her for realizing what a waste of time it was to delve into that stuff and that she is making an effort to free her mind.

    We also talked about how some will accuse of you “burying your head in the sand” if you don’t take the time to read the garbage they forward to you, let alone believe in it. Recall the book 1984, as well as the first Matrix movie. In the Matrix, one of the main characters, Cypher, wants out of the Matrix and to live in ignorant bliss. We discussed how it’s not ignorant bliss to ignore the fake news and conspiracies, but just a complete waste of time. Some people even neglect their families and other responsibilities, because of yet one more conspiracy is demanding their attention.

    I bring this up because maybe there is some hope for some people that are knee-deep in this stuff. Vaccine fears, underground child trafficking, and the mysterious “they” that are out there. I have some hope for her, but she admits it’s hard to pull away from the fake news.

  46. Michael says:


    “I believe that if an alien from another planet (assuming aliens and UFOs exist for purposes of this illustration) came to Earth to study human religions, he would likely conclude that there were at least two Christs, maybe more.”

    This is true and it breaks my heart.

  47. LInn says:


    No flu for me, either (although I haven’t had it in years due to always getting a flu shot) I rarely get colds, too. What I do get from my darlings is the occasional GI tract infection. I have a pretty good immune system, but I don’t take that for granted, especially as I am getting older.

  48. Michael says:


    I’m committed to watching things that build me up and I don’t watch TV news.

    I just watched an interview with Wendell Berry and feel like I took a nice, hot shower of sanity…

  49. Michael says:

    Our governor just announced indoor mask mandates are back in effect…people are going to lose their minds.

  50. Jean says:

    How would hospital operations improve or survive if they had only a couple handfuls of fewer admissions per day?

    Masking is truly what Christ meant by “when did we see you” and give in secret: one will never know who he/she helped or how many. It is truly an invisible service, that receives no reward in this life, it is a gift that is given in faith, seen by God.

    I.e., it is the most despised gift known to man. The law doesn’t give, it requires. The law rewards, because transactions are a concept of the law. Gifts fall outside law. Gifts are given by free persons, without any law.

    Mask mandates are for slaves of the law. Free Christians comply not from compulsion, but like Jesus and Peter who paid the temple tax.

  51. JB says:

    We’ll said Michael, I serve as an elder at a local church in the same valley as you. I thought we were the only church that actually obeyed the governing authorities through mandatory masking. My pastor was preaching through 1 Peter when the pandemic started and preached a sermon on 1 Peter 2:13-17 a few days before mask mandates were put in place. Within 3 months 1/3 of our church went elsewhere claiming we were cowards for following the governor’s orders.

    [13] Be subject for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, [14] or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. [15] For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. [16] Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. [17] Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

    I’m praying for you and the people you are called to minister to. And of course beautiful Southern Oregon.

  52. Michael says:



    It’s a tough situation we find ourselves in…the governor just put the indoor mask mandates back in place.
    I’m thankful that your church is doing the right thing no matter the cost…I’ll keep you and your work in prayer as well.

  53. bob1 says:

    Fortunately this is satire. Unfortunately, too darn close to true.

    ‘Rise Up, Patriots!’ Rand Paul Calls To Intubated Patients Lying Unconscious In Hospital ICU

  54. jtk says:

    Axios news has a great interview with Franklin Graham where he urges Christians and especially pastors to get the vaccine.

    Figured you needed that encouragement with a side of a poke in the side, Michael 😂

  55. jtk says:

    I’m gonna have to write something on the next “open blogging” with my perspective…

  56. Jean says:

    Since Franklin Graham is associated with Samaritan’s Purse, he probably receives a lot of competent medical advice from the doctors who serve in that ministry. Doctors who actually treat Covid and understand Vaccine safety and efficacy are generally a better source of information that My Pillow, Margorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson.

  57. Linn says:

    I wish all doctors were like that. I have friends (a married couple) who are now retired physicians. They both headed up departments at very well-known hospitals in my area. They are also both extremely politically conservative, and they sent an entire list of alternate COVID treatments out to their friends in December. They are also anti-vax. I couldn’t believe it

  58. Linn says:

    Jim V,

    I’m a teacher returning to school next week to a bunch of lovable, unvaxxed kids. Under 12s are not vaccine eligible and they can infect each other and adults. If you’re not aware of the over-crowded hospitals in the South/Southeast, delayed elective surgeries and COVID patients being kept in the emergency room due to lack of ICU beds, then you are way behind on the current crisis that can be easily addressed if people would just get themselves vaccinated.

  59. Dan from Georgia says:

    My COVID test came back negative…just have the common cold. As Linn above stated, it is really bad here in the South. Now another co-worker (and friend) of mine came down with COVID. So now of the 4 co-workers that I am aware of having COVID, 2 got it before the vaccines were available, and 2 after vaccines became available, but the latter 2 were not vaccinated. And a friend of mine in the Upper Midwest said that her and her husband were not going to get “the shot” because they are “believing God”. And my wife’s cousin and his family won’t get vaccinated, most likely because of some book in their house that sheds doubt on the pandemic. I understand some can’t get vaccinated, but most seem to not want it out of fear and misinformation.

    It’s all academic until yourself, a friend, or a loved one has to suffer. Get beyond the slogans and cherry-picked stats and have a heart for crying out loud!

  60. Michael says:


    Thanking God you’re going to be ok…

  61. Duane Arnold says:

    For those who think that “deaths are down” from Covid, the average for the last seven days was 514 deaths per day… and the numbers are trending upward.

  62. Dan from Georgia says:

    Thanks Michael!

  63. CM says:

    Dan from GA,

    What vaccine did you get? Moderna or Pfizer or Jansen/J &J?

  64. Dan from Georgia says:


  65. CM says:

    Dan from GA,

    Same here. Other than feeling like I was coming down with a cold or flu bug (and the associated fatigue), there were no symptoms. Those passed after a few days.

    I guess we both might as well tattoo a 666 on our wrists according to some “Christians”. 😀

    For a bit of humor, I present this:

    Some funny ones are:

    666.0000 = Number of the High Precision Beast
    00666 = Zip Code of the Beast
    $665.95 = The retail Price of the Beast
    DCLXVI = The Roman Number of the Beast

  66. Dan from Georgia says:

    Might be a misunderstanding here CM…I got the JJ vaccine in March. Just got a cold last week. I felt worse last week with my cold than the mild side effects from the JJ vaccine. Still had to quarantine at home until my COVID test came back. Some think I took the mark because of the JJ. I have a friend whom I wouldn’t be surprised if she sends me a letter with all the “research” about how vaccines are evil and I took the mark.

    Blah on them. I am sure they had their kids vaccinated against other things.

    That retail price of the beast was great! I wonder if there is a binary number of the beast. I’ll have to check out that link.

  67. CM says:


    Yes, there is a binary number of the beast on that link. Along with the approximate number of the beast, and others.

    0x29A (if you are in programming) or 29A (if you are in mathematics) = The Hexadecimal Number of the Beast (just made that one up)
    1010011010 = The Binary Number of the Beast

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