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  1. Bob Sweat says:

    I’ve been wanting to buy Alberta’s book for weeks. I am so bothered by the thinking of the religious right, I’m concerned that reading his book will contribute to my sleepless nights.

  2. Michael says:

    Bob,

    I think it’s helpful in understanding why people think the way they do…it’s a very engaging book, even as the subject matter is tough…

  3. Terry says:

    Thanks for making me curious enough about the Roys Report to actually go to the website. I just spent the last 20 minutes discovering all the current and ongoing wickedness I knew about was just the tip of the iceberg. John had a message for the Pharisees and Sadducees of his day that leaps to mind:

    “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? Produce fruit in keeping with repentance… The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”

  4. Michael says:

    Terry,

    Exactly…

  5. Duane Arnold says:

    Alberta’s book is painful to read… and true. If you live with the corruption long enough, you begin to consider the corruption to be the norm. Yes, he ends on a hopeful note, but the price of being part of the remnant may be too high for most believers. As a result of Alberta’s book, I am currently reading Liz Cheney’s memoir. I have a hard time not putting my fist through the wall…

  6. Kevin H says:

    I’m about halfway through Alberta’s book. It’s an easy read but hard to stomach. So much confounded disingenuousness and duplicity from these supposed “Christian” leaders, some of which they even admit to Alberta, but seemingly blow off as unimportant or necessary for the supposed greater good.

    And you’re right, those who need to read this book won’t. Or even if they possibly do, they will just write it all off as part of the liberal, woke agenda to tear down Christianity, especially evangelicals.

  7. Alan says:

    The eternal God is our dwelling place and underneath are the everlasting arms.

    And

    God is not mocked

    The horrible thing is that there really is a shield of some kind that prevents these bad actors being exposed.

    To be in the work and have a conscience is to run into that wall again and again.

    Very disabling.

  8. Michael says:

    The shield is the cowardice of those who could expose…they count the cost and it’s too damn expensive. .

  9. Linn says:

    I have the Alberta book, and I will order Stackhouse. Right now I’m working my way through one of the new Elisabeth Elliot biographies. Being a teacher and correcting papers (150 online projects coming my way next week) really cuts into my reading time!

    #5-35 years ago I stood in the office of the pastor of one of my supporting churches and asked if there was anything to be done about the adulterous pastor in the church where I was a member (same denomination, same seminary-these guys all knew each other). He told me I was gossiping and that it was not to be mentioned again. The pastor left my church and went on to wreak havoc in another until he was essentially “defrocked”, as that church took his behavior seriously. I was very disappointed by the pastor’s reaction, and I have had no contact with him since. I’m not mad, I just never saw a reason to approach him for anything after such a egregious breach of responsibility. I realized later that this is probably how most denominations deal with sexual scandal in their churches when it comes to leadership (unless it’s the average member-then you’re in big trouble!).

  10. Michael says:

    Is there a single person reading this that does not understand the cost of all of this to the church?

    If our only real weapon is prayer and our prayers are hindered by sin…is it any wonder that the whole damn place is falling apart?

  11. Timothy Sanford says:

    # 10. AMEN & AMEN.

  12. Scott Matson says:

    Thank you, Michael for this insightful post and the book recommendations. I’ll add both to my reading list – and probably move them up near the top.

    These issues are so crucial for the Church in the U.S. – stay in the fight, brother. God keep

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