What Russell Moore Should Have Said

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18 Responses

  1. CM says:

    Methinks the SBC needs to go the way of Confederacy and end up on the ash heap of history.

  2. Jean says:

    We have debated here before whether or not there is systematic racism in our country, and what Moore describes is a system. Most sadly, some of these systems are located within large American Christian institutions.

    One thing that prevents their eradication is the denial of their existence.

  3. josh hamrick says:

    Russ sent this letter directly to the people he was talking about. They know who they are. The letter was then leaked to the public. Word I am hearing is that names will now be named. It is obvious to most Southern Baptist who four of those names are just by their descriptions. And these buffoons have the gall to tell me that CRT is the biggest problem in our convention,

    If twitter is any representation of the SBC pews, we can’t discern which side is good or bad in this conflict. If that is true, we are doomed, and I pray God’s judgement is swift upon us before we do any more damage.

  4. Michael says:

    Josh,

    I hope and pray that men like you are the future of the SBC…but I fear that will not be the case.

  5. Michael says:

    Jean,

    “One thing that prevents their eradication is the denial of their existence.”
    Yes…

  6. josh hamrick says:

    Michael, I think we are done. We were born in sin, lived in darkness, and it seems we will die in shame.

  7. josh hamrick says:

    And yes, the first name just dropped.

  8. Michael says:

    Josh,

    I think my communion is finished as well…but my hope is that younger men like you revive it someday…you can do the same …

  9. Duane Arnold says:

    There is a word for this… “Ichabod”

  10. pstrmike says:

    I found it interesting that Moore encountered several ex-Southern Baptists in the Anglican communion. It was an option I gave thought for myself, but for several reasons (one being that there are no ACNA or C4SO churches in my region) opted to go Baptist instead.

    I am very discouraged by the present state of the Southern Baptist Convention. I would agree with Josh, CRT is not the biggest issue of the day, but unfortunately, that will take center stage, both at the convention and with all the media pundits postured to have their say and critique. Whatever the SBC does in Nashville, they will be labeled as racists—which in some cases, are true, and others, false. But in this world, one size does fit all.

    The infrastructure and systems of the SBC that have been created over the years have become the tempting prize for one to expand personal power and gain. Very few people can steward such great power with the accountability, dignity and humility that the job requires. Somewhere along the road, some men who probably started out with best intentions and love for God have been taken captive by the lure and lust of power—a flame that will eventual burn them. What they don’t realize is that much of it is wood, hay, and stubble.

  11. CM says:

    The SBC as an organization (like the GOP) needs the Ra’s Al Ghul treatment he proposed for Gotham City:

    “Gotham’s time has come. Like Constantinople or Rome before it the city has become a breeding ground for suffering and injustice. It is beyond saving and must be allowed to die. This is the most important function of the League of Shadows. It is one we’ve performed for centuries. Gotham… must be destroyed.”

  12. pstrmike says:

    CM,

    nonsense. . .

  13. pstrmike says:

    This article by Trevin Wax about the issues currently in the SBC is definitely worth a read.

    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevin-wax/what-are-southern-baptists-really-fighting-about/

  14. brian says:

    There is also one other key factor, there are some very powerful “clicks” that rule the roost so to speak at the SBC. They will not tolerate any interruption of revenue and / or power. On social media the gossip card has already been played and the CRT/I boogieman has been paraded out with the usual ceremonial handwaving. I would hope folks could be honest and discerning. Some are even saying abuse is not the worse problem and people need to just get over it. Of course that does not apply to leadership or the branded and pew sitters are not people they are walking wallets nothing more.

  15. CM says:

    brian,

    That’s right. The pew sitter is nothing more than a giving (aka revenue unit).

    The sooner the SBC ends up on the ash heap of history, the better.

  16. EricL says:

    I’m thankful for the many pastors and “pew sitters” in the SBC who are walking faithfully with our Lord. The scoundrels and fraudsters and anti-Christs do not negate the good folks who are following Jesus.

    I also appreciate the folks like Moore who turn on the flashlight of truth and expose those misbehaving in the dark.

  17. Em says:

    Good and logical words, Ericl
    I’ve known some of the folk you describe – sad situation …IMHO

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