What the Michigan State Settlement Means for Churches

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  1. Babylon's Dread says:

    17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, 18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, both small and great.”

    The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2016), Re 19:17–18.

  2. Josh the Baptist says:

    Yeah, you are right.

  3. Duane Arnold says:

    As a reality check, as of the end of 2015, the cost to the Roman Catholic Church was at the $4 billion mark, not counting lost revenue.


  4. Josh the Baptist says:


  5. filbertz says:

    so, is the feeding frenzy of ‘tort vultures’ a legitimate form of accountability or some malformed version of it?

  6. Michael says:


    It can serve a holy purpose.

    On the other hand, I have friends with small to medium size businesses who are constantly a target of the vultures…and they’ve robbed the kingdom of a lot of resources.

  7. bob1 says:

    I think what’s unfortunate is that these institutions — whether university, church or other
    entity — won’t have to worry about actually changing their cultures for the better. Sadly,
    like Michael said so well, it’s all coming down to $$. Period.

  8. richard says:

    sad but true.
    sad that churches need lawyers.
    sad that lawyers get so much of any settlement.

  9. John 20:29 says:

    I wonder how many of these institutions carry insurance to cover such lawsuits….

    For the churches, the monetary punishment doesnt begin to match the condemnation for not fulfilling their obligation to God to police their houses well… we have no fear of a righteous God and no courage of conviction… those 7 letters of Revelation make the standard crystal clear…

    or so it seems to me… ?

  10. Babylon's Dread says:

    In the land of justice for all we have a longstanding habit of using justice to create new injustice. Litigation is functionally the terrorism of civilized people.

  11. John 20:29 says:

    #10 – Well! I am going to sue BD for calling our judicial system a terrorist organization ! ! !
    Actually, he is correct… Our government of, by and for the people has gone strange. Pray for those in authority over us. Pray harder

  12. ( |o )====::: says:

    “Pray for those in authority over us. Pray harder.”

    Here’s something to do while making all those prayers.

    Let us, hold those whom we elected to serve us We, The People completely accountable TO US. Mobilize and vote them out, establish term limits and work locally to get out the vote.

  13. bob1 says:

    Litigation is functionally the terrorism of civilized people.

    I call BS.

    This kind of inverted thinking is what’s led to Trump.

    You’re advocating lawlessness. Very bad according to Scripture.

  14. John 20:29 says:

    I cant speak for Pastor Dread, but i didnt read that declaration to advocate a lawless society…

    Why we never vote out a do nothing, or worse, congress person doesnt speak very highly of us, does it? I’d like to think the candidate was better qualified (education, brains and integrity) than myself, but from what i hear you cant even get on the ballot, if you buck the powers that work behind the scenes – the real lawmakers… or lawbreakers… Doesnt that mean that if you’re on the ballot, you’re probably a quintessential yes man to begin with? sigh
    Still, Trump did the trick and nobody likes him… around here at least…

    I wish we had more coverage of the volcanic activity on Hawaii… The locals are leaving offerings for Pele…. Wrong God, but im not sure the real One is looking for fruits and flowers on the sidewalk….
    Just sayin… again. ?

  15. The New Victor says:

    Yet the Bible advises Christians not to sue one another. There was a paraplegic lawyer in Nor-California who made a living for many years going around making nit pick measurements of handicapped access at small businesses. He sued under the ADA and he bankrupted many.

  16. John 20:29 says:

    New Victor, does that reference apply only to Believers suing each other?

    The lawyers can make a good living off of the tac payer as we fund civil liberty suits, i think…

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