Why I Miss Discussing Theology: Duane W.H. Arnold, PhD

Why I Miss Discussing Theology

I miss discussing theology.

I do not merely miss arguments over doctrine, debates over liturgical preferences, or the familiar disputes over ecclesiastical identity. Those things have always existed and, in one form or another, always will. I miss something deeper. I miss the experience of engaging, either on a blog or in person, with people in pursuit of truth, with the assumption that there was something larger than ourselves to discover.

There was a time when theological discussion carried with it a sense of pilgrimage. One entered the conversation not simply to defend a position, but to learn. One could disagree vigorously and still emerge with friendship intact because the purpose was not conquest. The purpose was understanding. There was a common assumption that all of us, regardless of our training or convictions, stood before mysteries greater than ourselves.

Perhaps I remember it through the lens of nostalgia. Memory can soften the rough edges of the past. Theology has never existed in a vacuum free from politics, ambition, or rivalry. The history of the Church itself demonstrates this clearly enough. The controversies surrounding Nicaea, the debates of the Reformation, and the disputes that shaped Anglicanism all carried political dimensions. Human beings inevitably bring their own ambitions and fears into the life of the Church.

However, something seems different now.

Politics has not simply entered the room. Politics often appears to have become the room itself. Discussions that begin with Scripture, doctrine, liturgy, or ethics frequently end as contests over ideology, identity, and tribal allegiance. The language remains theological, but the substance often feels political and often toxic. One may speak of the Church while actually speaking about power. One may speak of doctrine while actually defending a social tribe. One may invoke Scripture while really seeking ammunition.

The result is exhaustion.

Theology, at its best, should enlarge our vision. It should remind us that God is infinitely greater than our systems, our assumptions, and our certainties. Theology should create humility because every genuine encounter with divine truth reveals how limited our own understanding remains. Instead, many discussions now seem designed to reduce rather than enlarge. They narrow reality into opposing camps. They demand immediate loyalties. They insist upon victories.

I miss the conversations that allowed uncertainty. I miss the people willing to say, “I had not thought of it that way before” or, “I might be wrong”. I miss the long evenings in which one could wander through Augustine, Athanasius, Michael Ramsey, or Rowan Williams and discover that the journey itself mattered as much as any conclusion reached at the end.

I miss wonder.

That may be the thing I miss most. Theology once felt like standing at the edge of the sea. One could spend a lifetime examining its depths and still know that much remained unseen. There was joy in that realization. There was freedom in admitting that mystery existed beyond the reach of human language.

Today there often seems little room for mystery. Everything must be immediate, categorical, and decisive. Every question requires a side. Every conversation risks becoming a battlefield.

Perhaps this is why I miss discussing theology. I do not miss winning arguments. I do not miss the machinery of controversy. I miss the pursuit itself.

I miss entering a conversation believing that truth mattered more than triumph.

Moreover, I miss believing that people sat down together not merely to defend what they already knew, but to encounter something they did not yet understand.

I still believe such conversations are possible. However, they may require us to recover an older posture: one marked less by certainty and more by reverence. Theology was never meant to be merely a weapon or a badge of identity. It was meant to help us know God.

That pursuit, I think, is worth missing.

Duane W.H. Arnold, PhD

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17 Responses

  1. Michael says:

    I wish I had written this…I’ll co-sign it all…

  2. Duane Arnold says:

    Michael

    Our conversation was the inspiration…

  3. Terry says:

    With my new church I have found two new friends to talk theology with. One my age and another a few years older. Some of our talks will work there way into an “Its all yours” post here.

    I find most people are simply not curious about better understanding their own beliefs, even less about other valid views that exist. It’s not necessarily about politics.

  4. Linn says:

    I still have a couple friends with whom I can discuss theology without it going political. Then there are friends where everything is political, including the weather, and I tend to confess I don’t contact them as often. It just gets overwhelming!

  5. Robert F says:

    I find many of my liberal coreligionists don’t really talk theology much, engaging God-talk only at worship, and my more conservative coreligionists find my theological openness and inclusiveness something that I need to be talked out of so that my beliefs are more in line with their own; that leaves me avoiding God-talk, and feeling quite alone in my Christianity.

  6. Michael says:

    I think about theology 24 hours a day…even when I’m doing things separate from religion.

    I have two brothers I talk with every week or I’d probably explode…disagreement is welcome in those conversations…we’re exploring, not camping out.

  7. bob1 says:

    Michael, I think you’re blessed to have these friends!

    I’ve been friends with a guy I got to know at college. That was 50 years ago. We lost touch for several decades but now see each other about once a year. We love to talk theology. My wife says we’re like one person when we’re together. We like to make fun of funny Xn celebrity names, too. Maybe we have theological OCD!

  8. pstrmike says:

    It’s more fun to explore than to go camping…….. 😉

  9. Joshua Barron says:

    Your post brought these quotes to my mind:

    “Invoking ‘theology’ does not therefore mean summoning up a complete scheme of ready-made answers which will short-circuit the process of serious historical and critical exegesis, as is sometimes feared. On the contrary, it will set the historical critic free to work with clarity of aim and purpose.”
    — N. T. Wright, THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE PEOPLE OF GOD, Christian Origins and the Question of God 1 (London: SPCK, 1992), 138.

    “For Paul, prayer and theology met in his personal history, as in the once-for-all history of the crucified and risen Messiah. Paul’s ‘aims’, his apostolic vocation, modelled the faithfulness of God. Concentred and gathered. Prayer became theology, theology prayer. Something understood.”
    — N. T. Wright, PAUL AND THE FAITHFULNESS OF GOD, Christian Origins and the Question of God 4 (London: SPCK, 2013), 1519.

    «Εἰ θεολόγος εἶ, προσεύξῃ ἀληθῶς, καὶ εἰ άληθῶς προσεύξῃ, θεολόγος εἶ.» 153 Texts on Prayer 61
    — Εὐάγριος ὁ Ποντικός

  10. Duane Arnold says:

    Robert F

    I suspect what you describe is more common than many realize. On one side, some of our more liberal brothers and sisters seem reluctant to engage deeply in theology outside worship itself. Faith may be expressed through practice and community, yet sustained conversation about God often feels absent. On the other side, some of our more conservative brothers and sisters engage theology readily, but the discussion can feel less like exploration and more like correction, as if openness itself requires repair.

    That leaves an uncomfortable place in the middle. One begins avoiding God-talk not because one cares too little, but because one cares too much. Silence becomes easier than superficiality or combat.

    Perhaps what you are experiencing is not simply theological loneliness but ecclesial loneliness — the absence of companions willing to seek truth together rather than merely defend conclusions. Many of us do not need people who agree with us at every point. We need people willing to say, “Tell me more.”

  11. Robert F says:

    Duane, Thanks for your reply. I think that you’re right: the problem for me is the absence of companions who don’t have either the attitude that theology is basically a private matter that we don’t want to talk about because we will end up arguing disagreeably; or who have a mindset that if one disagrees with them on any significant theological points, one must be converted, not dialogued with as an equal discussion partner. And since, like Michael, I think about theology or subjects adjacent to it almost all the time, I end up talking to almost entirely to me, myself, and I — a terribly lonely place to be in.

  12. pstrmike says:

    “That leaves an uncomfortable place in the middle. One begins avoiding God-talk not because one cares too little, but because one cares too much. Silence becomes easier than superficiality or combat.”

    There it is. I’ve come to the conclusion that my spiritual journey needs to be well guarded. Too many from my past want to stay in the world they constructed, where they long ago made up their minds concerning the faith and that mystery are not acceptable. They are challenged by things they cannot explain and are not open to other ideas of spiritual truth and life with God. They are more interested in the container than the contents it can hold. For most, I’ve decided to leave them in their ignorance while I continue to look “forward to a city with eternal foundations, a city designed and built by God” (Heb. 11:10 [NLT]).

  13. Duane Arnold says:

    pstrmike

    I understand that impulse. There is wisdom in guarding what is sacred from those who only wish to dismantle it.

    Your gaze toward “a city with eternal foundations” is the stronger image. Faithfulness is often less about winning others to our conclusions and more about continuing the pilgrimage ourselves, remaining open to mystery while refusing to let others imprison us within theirs.

  14. Muff Potter says:

    I hold to the tenets of The Apostle’s Creed as non-negotiable parameters of my faith.
    The other stuff?
    I pick and choose as I see fit.
    For example, I reject the doctrine of PSA (penal substitutionary atonement)
    It’s monstrous.

  15. John in AZ says:

    Anything requiring a label with more syllables than “transubstantiation” is a false doctrine.

  16. Duane Arnold says:

    John in AZ

    At 18 letters it beats out my favorite, “Pneumatomachian”…

  17. JD says:

    I wonder what is the theology of the Witchcraft Fake Office.

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