Working The Angles: pstrmike

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12 Responses

  1. Michael says:

    I think if we all get a copy of this book it could lead to a rich discussion…thank you, pstrmike!

  2. richard says:

    i love how Jesus put pastoral ministry in simple terms of tending sheep and being a good shepherd. And the occupation hasn’t changed much in over 3000 years. One can still find sheep grazing and shepherds in many areas.

  3. Linn says:

    I was thinking about my pastor’s devotion to his weekly podcast, where is shares a lot of his opinions that are too controversial to share in the pulpit. The views aren’t based on Scripture, but on his own political leanings and beliefs. And, every now and then, someone finds it, connects it with our church, and we get a bad Yelp review. I don’t know why it’s so important to him. There are so many other important things in pastoral work, but I don’t see it helping the work of the ministry at all.

  4. Xenia says:

    I have about decided that pastors/priests (probably especially priests) should have pretty much zero presence on social media. There are exceptions of course, no need to broad brush, but as for me, I have become suspicious of the motives of pastors with their podcasted sermons and YouTube channels. Again, there are exceptions. But if my ears are so tickled by some charismatic pod-priest that the homilies of my own humble pastor, the pastor God gave me, can be cast aside as too simple, I have made a big mistake AND I’ve contributed to the ego of the pod-priest/pastor. I’ve not helped him by being his fan; I’ve helped weigh him down with the deadly baggage of celebrity. Any pastor who has a fan page needs to shut it down.

    Yes, I know, many people say they have been helped by media-pastoring. Maybe it wasn’t so helpful after all? Does it take the place of listening to your own pastor? Again, there are exceptions, which I am sure I will hear about.

  5. Em says:

    “Many think they are called.” Sadly for us dumb sheep, if you’ve got a good act, we think you’ve been ” chosen” by God. NOT SO! ! !

  6. Linn says:

    So many churches have adopted streaming of services, that i think that would be enough. It brings the church to the community’s attention, and also minister to those who are shut=in, caretakers, or Sunday workers. I think that would be more than enough “exposure.”

  7. pstrmike says:

    I think that is a great idea.

    I’m usually discouraged when I see a pastor using their platform for other means. Political ideas and the gospel can be hard to reconcile with each other except in the case of issues that call us to take a stand for justice. Even that is controversial, and as Michael likes to say (so do I), your mileage may very.

    We usually agree on the importance of the local church, yet I have also learned to be careful in my critiques of the use of social media. After all, I am writing on a blog. I do feel however, that too many spend too much emphasis “ministering” to people that they do not even know, and that can be, as I have experienced, a distraction from the local mission. Just because the very popular pastor said it and he/she has a large social media following doesn’t make it true. I’m not sure why so many feel that their version of the gospel is so important that their voice needs to rise above that of the local parish……..

    almost thou persuade me to become orthodox 😉

  8. pstrmike says:


    I would agree. I some cases (I can’t quantify), these churches and their pastors are not making much noise about their faithfulness—and I don’t think doing so reinforces that commitment.

    I know of a few good pastors; my thinking in engaging with Peterson’s work is that pastoral work also needs to have some sense of intentionality to the work. While not wanting to discount the leading of the Spirit, I have seen through many examples that those who “just want to led of the Spirit” can confuse their own intentions with that of the Divine. Having some type of framework is helpful (Benedict understood this), because I believe the Spirit also works within such systems.

  9. Karen says:

    Sounds like a good book. I might look it up.

  10. Karen says:

    PS. Does this book spend a significant amount of time on the biblical requirements for a pastor? I’ve noticed a thing lately with letting divorced pastors continue to pastor.

  11. pstrmike says:

    I have not read the entire book, rather I am writing as I read. From my exposure to Peterson, I would suspect he was interested in engaging with the framework of what the pastoral vocation consists of; something that I briefly described in original post.

  12. Karen says:

    Ok, thanks!

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