Extremes: Kevin H

So are only some of us predestined unto salvation and chosen by God or is God’s offer of salvation unconditionally available for any and all to choose to receive by their own free will?

Are we already in the millennium or do things need to keep getting better to usher in the millennium or are they going to keep getting worse before the millennium comes upon us?

And are baptism and the Lord’s Table sacraments or ordinances, all the more, what is the proper mode of baptism and should infants be baptized?

There are tons of theological issues that have long been debated by many in the Church.  Some issues have been widely agreed upon as essential to the faith, therefore, it is commonly accepted that one cannot deny the deity or bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ or deny the reality of the Trinity and still rightly call themselves a Christian.  These things are black and white in the Christian faith.  We can still be friends with those who may insist otherwise, but we cannot accept them into Christian fellowship.

Far many other issues, however, aren’t quite as clear or agreed upon, and people can hold a variety of opinions on them and still be considered Christian.  Yet, historically we know that there have been Christians and/or Christian bodies who have insisted, or at least acted like that their position is the only acceptable stance on these issues of lesser clarity and importance, and subsequently condemn those who believe otherwise, even to the extreme in some cases of killing people at the stake.  These believers have taken things that are varying shades of unsettled gray and colored them black and white, taking them to unnecessary and harmful extremes.

Taking things to the extreme is a very common practice in our culture today and it has been detrimental to society.  Worse yet, is that many of us who are supposed to be the salt of the earth and light of the world have enthusiastically joined in on these ruinous extremes.  Unfortunately, many Christians have contributed to the degradation of our society and the dishonor of our faith by doing so.  These Christians, rather than being salt and light, have instead in many ways have lost their saltiness and clamored for darkness.

For years I endured a church experience that flirted with the extremes on the application of theological beliefs and practices.  I regularly saw and heard condescension, if not even condemnation, towards those who worshipped in liturgical fashion, or didn’t take prophecy and the End Times seriously enough, or weren’t supportive enough of Israel, or believed that evolution could be possible, or didn’t teach the whole counsel of God (because they didn’t faithfully teach “verse by verse”), etc.  Such smugness and expression of extremes have long existed in the Church, many times far worse than what I experienced.

In recent times, however, it would appear that many in the Church additionally have been attracted to harsher extremes and increased black and white thinking regarding our culture and politics.  Salt and light have been traded for a measure of power, control, revenge, and self-satisfaction.

The Democrats are godless!

Biden is evil and Trump stands for righteousness!

Our country is going to hell in a handbasket and we need to get back to when it was great and righteous and Christian!

Illegal immigrants are destroying our country and turning it into a third world country!

COVID was all just a big scam and an attempt by the government and the elite to control us and steal our freedoms!

The election was stolen!

I could repeat the extreme mantras and attitudes from the other side of the political aisle which many times can be just as harmful, but the actuality is that there is nowhere near the quantity or voraciousness of mixing extremes with the Christian faith on the Political Left as there is on the Political Right.  Thus, I am primarily speaking to Christians and their churches and organizations on the Right that have gone hot and heavy in adopting extremes.

If I’m trying to save my child from a kidnapper who is actively trying to steal her, I will gladly employ whatever extremes necessary to save her.  There is a time and place for extreme activity, but discernment and well-being exhort us to employ them sparingly and judiciously.  What many Christians are doing today is anything but discerning, healthy, and wise, and the state of our society and the Church are all the worse for it.  That such a foolish, reprobate man as Donald Trump is so admired and acclaimed by so many Christians is more than enough proof that this is true.  May God have mercy on us.

“Let your reasonableness be known to everyone.” – Philippians 4:5

“Show yourself in all respects to be a model of good works, and in your teaching show integrity, dignity, and sound speech that cannot be condemned, so that an opponent may be put to shame, having nothing evil to say about us.” – Titus 2:7-8

“Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.” – Revelation 3:19

Let us be zealous in our repentance and reasonable and thoughtful in our interaction with others and society. 

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16 Responses

  1. thom says:

    Once again, this site has spoken in a way that confirms a complete lack of understanding on the issues. Completely impaired and mis informed. Amazing really and quite amusing.

  2. Kevin H says:

    So thom, or should I call you greg, I see that you learned a new trick by registering a new email address so that you can get around moderation and spew your denigration.

    This won’t last long.

    Your efforts and your words only help to validate the premise of my article.

  3. R'as al Ghul says:

    Thorn,

    If you are so enlightened and informed, why don’t you clearly elucidate a reply with specifics on what it is we are not understanding and what we are misinformed about. If you have the stones, that is. Or are you just a drive-by troll?

  4. Kevin H says:

    R’as al Ghul,

    As you can tell from my comment, thom, or thorn, is an old commenter who has previously been moderated because of his own lack of understanding and disrespectful interaction.

  5. R'as al Ghul says:

    Kevin H,

    I do appreciate your articles. I would say I am conservative in the “classical” and “technically correct” sense (not what passes for “conservatism” today in the era of MAGA and Trump) with a strong libertarian streak. I consider the Constitution as an equal opportunity offender. Which makes me a bit of an odd duck.

    I consider both Masterpiece Cakeshop and Obergefell SCOTUS decisions to be correct, if that makes sense. I consider that the Constitutional principle of federalism means that FedGov can’t commandeer state agencies to enforce Federal gun laws (as Prinz vs. United States ruled) and neither can the Feds commandeer state agencies to enforce immigration laws against “sanctuary cities.” And so on.

    The difference between the extreme left and right is only what parts of the Constitution they want to shred. To hell with both. The horseshoe shape of political spectrum is alive and well. And this one reason David French was crucified by his erstwhile allies.

    The thing that pisses me off the most with the rise of Trump, the masks of so-called “conservatives”, “Constitutionalists” and “Christians” came off, revealing their true hearts. At least the proggies on the left were more honest. This also is why I think Evangelical Christianity (especially in the US) is a crock of sh**.

  6. R'as al Ghul says:

    Seeing how the Christian SJW on the right say that drag queens in their story hours are abusers, molesters, and groomers, all I can say it is weird how many of these drag queens look just like megachurch pastors (such as Robert Morris).

  7. Kevin H says:

    Thanks, R’as al Ghul. Trump truly has given many so called conservatives and Christians impetus to take off their masks and shown their true colors. And in many cases, those true colors are just as ugly, if not even more so than the drag queens they so denigrate and decry.

  8. Idahoan says:

    This comment by “Thom” makes me wonder if it’s by a human at all. Notice how it addresses “this site” rather than “this article” or the author, and fails to note, even generally, what the issues are. The same comment could be sent out by the same non-human entity to thousands of sites about (or actually not about) thousands of issues. I’m willing to be proven wrong, so if you’re really a human named Thom, please give evidence of the same.
    Personally I think many antichrists have been around for about 2000 years, but if an especially big and bad one should arise soon, he’ll have a heyday with AI(s). These are rapidly evolving and “improving”. So today the bot will insult “this site” about “the issues”, but tomorrow it may insult Kevin about specifics, and even pull insults up about anything he’s posted in the past. It could create imposters etc.
    Again, I’d be happy to hear from the real Thom and apologize for any misunderstanding.

  9. Muff Potter says:

    R’as al Ghul @ 9:16 am,
    “This also is why I think Evangelical Christianity (especially in the US) is a crock of sh**.”

    No argument there R’as, it’s a steaming crock.
    I left it years ago and haven’t looked back.

  10. Kevin H says:

    Idahoan,

    Thom won’t be able to respond back as he has been blocked. However, I was able to check and it appears that Thom is a real person, and he isn’t even the same as “Greg” as I had previously thought. They appear to be two separate people who happen to be posting from the same legitimate IP address, and they also both appear to share the same disrespectful, derogatory attitudes.

    Most fake stuff here gets caught by the spam filter and never shows up on the site. But I get your concerns. People could increasingly use AI to cause trouble and chaos, including at a site like this. The ironic thing is that those who are hyper-vigilant in looking out for the Antichrist are some of the very people who would be most likely to carry out antichrist behavior here.

  11. Idahoan says:

    Well, I apologize to Thom for accusing him of being a bot, even if he can’t apologize for acting like one. We have a car here with the license # 666. I sent a pic to the family saying “You’d think he’d have a fancier car !”

  12. Capt says:

    “You’d think he’d have a fancier car!” 😂

  13. R'as al Ghul says:

    OK, we all know that 666 is the Number of the Beast. But did you know that:

    665.999 – Approximate number of the Beast

    DCLXVI – Roman numeral of the Beast

    666.0000 – Number of the High Precision Beast

    0.666 – Number of the Millibeast

    / 666 – Beast Common Denominator

    666 ^ (-1) = Imaginary number of the Beast

    1010011010 – Binary of the Beast

    1-666 – Area code of the Beast

    00666 – Zip code of the Beast

    1-900-666-0666 – Live Beasts! One-on-one pacts! Call Now! Only $6.66/minute. Over 18 only please.

    6, uh… what was that number again? – Number of the Blonde Beast

    $665.95 – Retail price of the Beast

    $699.25 – Price of the Beast plus 5% state sales tax

    $769.95 – Price of the Beast with all accessories and replacement soul

    $656.66 – K-mart price of the Beast

    $646.66 – Next week’s K-mart price of the Beast

    6.66 % – 5 year CD interest rate at First Beast National Bank, $666 minimum deposit.

    DSM-666 – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the Beast

    Route 666 – Highway of the Beast

    666i – BMW of the Beast

    666 F – Oven temperature for roast Beast

    666k – Retirement plan of the Beast

    Lotus 6-6-6 – Spreadsheet of the Beast

    Word 6.66 – Word Processor of the Beast

    i66686 – CPU of the Beast

    668 – Next-door neighbor of the Beast

  14. Linn says:

    When I lived in South America, I often traveled out to small towns to lead VBSs. I was staying with a lady who was very focused on End Times, and she gave me a bottle of Coke. I removed the screw top, and it had the number 666 stamped on it. (She wanted the number for some contest Coke was running.) She panicked as my Coke was obviously demon-possessed. I politely told her 666 was a number between 665 and 667. It was really hot, and I was really thirsty.

  15. Xenia says:

    Linn, you should have turned it around and told her it was 999.

  16. Reuben says:

    R’as al Ghul LOL

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