Jean’s Gospel: How Not To Pray

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  1. Josh the Baptist says:

    Jean, this is so good. The whole series. When published, I will buy it and teach it at my church.

    The only slight difference I’d make to this particular entry is with your statement: “We cannot converse with God and other people simultaneously.”

    Not sure I agree. Not sure constant prayer if possible if this is true.

    No big deal. That’s my only little point of discussion.

  2. Jean says:

    Thanks Josh! 🙂

  3. Michael says:

    Very important point…we are not seeking God’s favor first …we already have it.
    It’s not about our worthiness, but His…

  4. Em ... again says:

    this is an excellent argument covering most of the bases …
    prayer can be a labor, however – a labor to get past our tendency to do all the above “don’ts” listed … don’t most folk edit their words (some are most skilled than others) in their daily life? – reaching the relaxed mindset of being conversational with the holy God can be tiring … my biggest roadblock to “communing” with God is to get beyond the thinking that i am telling Him something that He doesn’t already know or instructing Him in what He should do about it 🙂
    pray anyway, it’s where you are directing your prayers that is the starting point – God knows you and He’s patient
    as i read Jean’s blog-post i was seeing in my minds eye all those noses on the ground with rear ends pointed heavenward … may God the Holy Spirit reach those troubled minds

  5. Em ... again says:

    #3- amen – a most important fact

  6. Jean says:


    Your #3 touches on a concern of mine about some popularity of terms such as “war room” and “prayer warrior.” Are we seeing a replay of medieval mysticism? I don’t think these are helpful categories.

  7. Jean says:


    “as i read Jean’s blog-post i was seeing in my minds eye all those noses on the ground with rear ends pointed heavenward … may God the Holy Spirit reach those troubled minds”

    I’m picturing a very uncomfortable yoga position, but that’s probably not what you had in mind. Could you clarify what or who you meant by “noses on the ground with rear ends pointed heavenward.” Thanks.

  8. Anne says:

    Em, prostrations that you are insinuating as unique to the troubled minds of I am assuming the practitioners of Islam are also practiced by devout and sincere Christians following Christ in many traditions around the world and historically by the earliest believers. Indeed it is a posture sometimes most comforting to a troubled mind as it is also a relaxation pose in yoga. Aptly named child’s pose.

  9. Owen says:

    #3…. this is a struggle for me at times. Worthiness.

    On the one hand, we know we are not worthy of anything but death – but God in his mercy does not give us what we deserve.

    On the other hand, He has made us worthy to come before Him , through His Son.

    For me, sometimes this dichotomy takes up too much of my mental energy when praying. I suspect this is a tactic of the enemy.

  10. Anne says:

    Em, forgive me if I misunderstood what you were implying. I have a bad habit of jumping to conclusions way too quickly on very little evidence lately. Or just more aware of it as I get older.

  11. Em ... again says:

    Anne and Jean, i do apologize to anyone who thought that i was denigrating their physical position when turning to God in prayer – one’s bodily position when praying to the God of the Bible is in my mind irrelevant, but may be indicative of one’s emotional state – we tend to physically collapse when at the end of ourselves – whether mental or physical …

    yes, i was referring the often seen on TV of misdirected energy, positioning one’s body, attempting to appease and please their definition of the supreme being

    the recommended position for prayer in my circles is on one’s knees, but at my age and stage of life that position hurts so much that i can’t gather enough of my mind to form a coherent thought beyond “ouch” 🙂

    #11-no, Anne, your point was well taken and the clarification called for is a valid one

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