Jean’s Gospel: Living From the Mouth of God

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  1. em ... again says:

    the only caveat that leaped into my mind reading this good post:
    surely we say with assurance, “thank You,” knowing that He has had, does have and will have mercy on us… we come to Christ as beggars? well…
    not AFTER we’ve entered into His family
    “Lord, thank You for having mercy on us, the Redeemed”
    “Christ thank You for having mercy on us”

    one’s theology does affect one’s mindset, but hopefully not one’s position in Christ… it isn’t any of it by our own power, but… 🙂 God keep

  2. Jeffrey Pautz says:

    Nice post, Jean

    em…gain I think that even after we’ve entered into His family we have no more than a beggar to offer God. I don’t own His mercy after He has given it, but I am still thankful He is still merciful.

    God bless you all

  3. Jean says:

    I’m afraid that when one loses (or thinks they’ve moved beyond) spiritual poverty, they no longer have the blessing of the first beatitude. At that point, things typically go south.

    The next step is:

    “But when that same servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii, and seizing him, he began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay what you owe.’” and/or

    “Though they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away.”

    We know where those stories led, and many others.

    No, I think it best that we remember perhaps the most important Proverb that Jesus uttered regarding the kingdom of heaven: “So the last will be first, and the first last.”

    Our righteousness is alien, that is it is imputed to us by God for the sake of the vicarious satisfaction of Jesus Christ, “who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption”.

  4. JoelG says:

    Thank you for this post Jean.

    “Our righteousness is alien, that is it is imputed to us by God for the sake of the vicarious satisfaction of Jesus Christ, “who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption”.”

    My pea brain believes this to be correct. Would you say that even our “good works” are only good because they are covered by His imputed righteousness?

  5. Jean says:

    Hi JoelG,

    Yes, absolutely. Everything we do in this life is done through the flesh, that is the old Adam/Eve. So there is the taint of sin even in our good works. And, yes, our Father accepts and is pleased with those works for the sake of Christ, who died for our sins.

  6. JoelG says:

    Ok. And there are some within Christianity that might disagree with this? Perhaps those of the Orthodox persuasion? Others?

  7. Jean says:

    Joel @ #6,

    I’m not aware of any orthodox (small “o”) traditions that would disagree with my #5, but we have representatives from several traditions here who may way in with their positions.

  8. Duane Arnold says:

    #5 There can be another argument, I think. Owing to the Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection, we are incorporated, flesh and all, into the Body of Christ. Our good works, therefore, emanate from that incorporation and are truly Christ working in and through us, even as we retain the taint of the old nature… It amounts to the same in terms of your conclusion, but starts from a little different place.

  9. Jean says:

    Pastor Jeff @#2,

    Thank you for your encouragement.

    Duane, good perspective. Thanks.

  10. Linnea says:

    Jean, thank you for the encouraging post.

    Duane at 12:32- that interpretation rings true.

  11. em ... again says:

    i think what separates here with regard to the concept of being beggars is good old theology…
    were we beggars without anything to offer God when we came for salvation? absolutely
    and i totally agree that whatever value a saved soul contributes to the Kingdom originates with God…
    that said, we now come to the concept of “new birth” – i think of 1 John 3:1-2 – our children are totally dependent on us, yes, but they are not beggars at our door…
    we’ve hashed thru the parable of seeds, germination and the ground on which the seed falls before … so no need to go there again as it is clear that, if one thinks that some seed falls on good ground, roots and grows and bears fruit and then withers and dies… then the case can be made that we are not children of God, eternally secure … but if we are …?…
    (so goes theology – the narrow way does seem to have forks at times 🙂 )

  12. Owen says:

    Jean,
    Wonderful, beautiful words. Thank you.
    I had forgotten about the Kyrie (our congregation doesn’t use it, I wish we did). Always a good place to start.

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