Kevin’s Conversations: Hating The Sin and The Sinner
It was Dallas week in Philadelphia last week.
What this means is that the Eagles were playing the hated Dallas Cowboys. Occurring twice a year every year, these two weeks are the most anticipated weeks of the Eagles regular season schedule. So much anticipation and hype and fury and deep-seated desire to destroy those #$*&@%s from Dallas. It is sublime when the Eagles prevail. (We won’t discuss what it is like when they lose, such as this past Sunday. 👿 )
We hate everything about those Cowboys. We hate their self-aggrandized claim as “America’s Team”. We hate all the smugness and arrogance that has permeated from their coaches, players, and owners throughout the years. We hate their five Super Bowl championships to our none. We hate all their fake fans. (Not the ones who are from Texas and the like or have some other kind of real connection to the team, but those that latch on to the bandwagon from afar. Especially those in the Philadelphia area who commit treason by turning their backs on Eagles fandom and instead support the abhorred enemy.) And we hate that Star. Oh, do we hate that Star.
We cheer for two teams every week….. the Eagles and whoever is playing the Cowboys. The top highlight of the last 55 years for us still remains beating the Cowboys in the 1981 NFC Championship Game. Some of our other top highlights don’t even involve the Eagles, but rather other times when the Cowboys screwed up. If the Eagles were to have a wretched 2-14 season, it really wouldn’t be that bad if the 2 wins came against the Cowboys.
Now, I can’t speak for all of us, but most of this hate stays contained to within “sports hate”. Sports hate is when we desire for all kinds of misfortune and lack of success on the playing field and within the organization of a particular team or sometimes particular players. But it doesn’t extend to hate in real life. We wish no ill will in any real circumstances in the lives of those on the opposing team. We just wish hard they fail on the field (or the court or ice, etc.). Some may argue that this type of hate still is not good, but at the very least, it would be difficult to argue that it’s nearly as concerning as other types of hate.
One usually only needs to take a quick look around to see some form of hatred. Looking on the internet, especially social media, expedites finding those results all the more. Looking within oneself is often the quickest path of all to find hate.
We hate our bosses. We hate that family member who is just impossible to get along with. We hate our annoying neighbors. We hate the person who drives slowly in the passing lane.
We hate ISIS. We hate our president and out government. We hate the LGBT agenda. We hate those who are homophobic. We hate the illegal immigrant. We hate those who would deny a woman the right to choose.
We hate Hillary Clinton. We hate Donald Trump. We hate those who are voting for Hillary or Donald. We hate those who refuse to vote for either.
We hate the sin, but we love the sinner. Or so we like to say. No matter that most of our focus is on the sin. And at that, the sins of others….. they’re much easier to focus on and hate than our own sins.
In my writings, I usually try to strike a balance. I will sometimes call out the extremes and say they are no good and assert that we must do better. I will speak to the wrongness, which sometimes could be construed as the hatred, that is contained within these extremes. And it becomes oh so easy to hate the haters. Yeah, but I’m only hating the sin, not the sinner, I like to tell myself.
Now maybe hatred is too strong of a word to use sometimes. At times it may only be a dislike that is not accompanied by the passion and vitriol that often comes with hate. Maybe sometimes that hatred or disliking is truly righteous. We are hating the things that God hates. And we’re keeping the focus of our hate and dislike on the things or actions, not the person committing them.
But how often do the sin and the sinner begin to overlap? Where they meld together and it is difficult to tell if we’re talking about the sin or the sinner? Where we say that we are only hating the sin but we still love the sinner, yet the manner in which we are communicating sure is making it feel like anything but for the sinner?
“Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.” – Proverbs 10:12
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,” – Luke 6:27
“Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.” – I John 2:9
I could go on but you get the point. And you already know a bunch of the other Scripture references about hate or at least know where and how to find them.
Yes, we should hate evil. (That’s where I would group the Cowboys. 🙂 ) The Bible even tells us to do so. I’ll let the theologians straighten out exactly what it all means to hate evil in those Scripture references and how that applies to how we should carry ourselves.
But I can tell you, in my opinion and observation, we are often getting the hating wrong. One quick glance across the world, even across social media, tells me that.
One quick glance into my own heart tells me even more.
One of the consequences of our love of hate these days is that unless you express yourself bombastically and with some raw hate it’s hard to get a hearing these days…which is making us all the more hateful and emotionally and spiritually ill.
The thing I wish people would wake up to is that when you scour extremist web sites (or even FB nowadays) for horrible, probably not even true, stories about politicians (either side), and repeat these stories when you have zero evidence they are true, that you are just as much a LIAR as the person you are calling a liar. At the very least, you are spreading gossip. And what a complete waste of one’s time, to spend the days looking for scandals when there are so many more worthwhile ways to spend one’s time!
Ask yourselves, ye spreaders of gossip: When you come upon a particularly juicy bit of scandal involving the candidate you hate, do you rejoice? Are you rejoicing in evil? Or are you sad that a person who is created in the Image of God might (and I say “might”) has fallen into sin. <<<<— That's the heart check, folks. Do you jump on a nasty little tidbit with the joy of a seagull pouncing on an old french fry or are you sad. (And how much of it is even true. Probably very little.)
Michael,
Are you saying we are de-sensitized?
Jean,
We are…and beyond that, we are training up a generation on social media to believe that this is how adults interact…
Xenia,
That is well said and why I keep harping about bearing false witness…
Michael, before I unfollowed a lot of people, I noticed that it was the middle-aged and older people who were given to vitriol, not the younger people, the 20-30’s. They are mostly posting pictures of themselves drinking artesian beer at the newest pub in town. I think they are turned off by all this and won’t copy their elders.
At least, that’s what I hope!
Xenia,
T has taken an interest in this election and has watched the debates and some of the news programs.
He isn’t anywhere near sophisticated enough to understand the issues, but he has sadly picked up on the tone and tenor of the discussions.
We have had some difficult conversations…
This insane election cycle certainly has pushed hatred to the forefront.
Thank you Kevin. Timely words. I have been thinking lately how people become ‘grumpy old men/women”. They seem to know more about what they don’t like/hate and less about what they do like/love…. In fact, one of the charming things about little kids is that they pretty much like everything except onions. Possible lesson there, ya think?
Frankly, I even have a hard time with ‘hate the sin, love the sinner’….
Seems like the stuff we get our shorts in a wad over are different from this list:
Proverbs 6:16-17 6
There are six things that the Lord hates,
seven that are an abomination to him:
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haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18
a heart that devises wicked plans,
feet that make haste to run to evil,
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a false witness who breathes out lies,
and one who sows discord among brothers.
“All men shall know you are My disciples by your love, one for another. ”
Love God. Love people.
We’re ALL sinners.
Amen, Paige…
i like Kevin’s analysis of the subject – well grounded and well spoken IMHO – i confess that i used to hate John Elway… 😉 people in general can make me tired, but hating takes too much energy these days
of course, i’m observing the election campaigns underway now, but personally i’ve been spared all the current vitriol that seems to be out there (cuz i don’t go ‘out there?’ 🙂 )
IMV – for some folk hatred is simply an excuse to band together, it’s almost a social club…
i had the dubious honor of being an ongoing target for some years and until that occurred i would have argued that such conduct had to be an anomaly – like politics, hatred makes strange bedfellows…
and…
amen to Paige’s list @ #9
good conversations going on here. learning a lot.
it is quite difficult to hate the sin and not the sinner….but can be done…you just accept the person for who they are and not what they do. you don’t have to like what they do and hate it but do you have to have a relationship with them? that is the hard part…how do you love without having a relationship? Pray?
how do you love without having a relationship? question that has me thinking … again …
yes, pray… the fact of hell is worth praying that the sinning soul not go there – pray for their repentance?
maybe we don’t repeat gossip (unless there is a concrete need to warn someone of a danger)?
good question, dusty’s got me thinking on how to hate without it becoming a terrible and sinful thing…
Sorry John lol.
I was molested by my grandfather. Forgivness was not my problem having a relationship with him and having my daughter around him was hard. I did not like him. But did not hate him.
In regard to football, I was raised to love one team (the Rams) and hate all the others.
Especially the Vikings and the 49ers.
My handicapped son (24) approaches it all so different.
He certainly has a favorite team (Seahawks), but he doesn’t really grasp the concept of hating another team.
I’ve asked him, “Which team don’t you like?”
He just shrugs his shoulders.
He’ll watch any game and thoroughly enjoy it. He appreciates the abilities of the individual players.
Slowly, but surely, I’m coming his way.
That’s cool Pineapple Head that your son doesn’t hate a team. I guess I may be a fairweather fan, but I, being a MN Vikings and MN Twins fan, don’t have a hate for the Green Bay Packers or the Chicago White Sox. To me its just a sign of too much emotional investment in sports. Yeah, sports can be a fun pursuit or diversion, but I think there are a few people who take it too seriously.
Kevin,
Great post, lots of thought-provoking conversation as well…
I tend to go back to ‘love your neighbour as yourself”, and remember C.S. Lewis responding with, “well, how exactly do I love myself?” (Meaning, in what manner am I already loving myself).
So, I look at myself. There are things about me that I can say I really , really hate. But I still don’t want anything bad to happen to me, I still make an attempt to care about myself and take care of myself. My health and well-being are still important to me, in spite of all the hate – able things I know about myself.
So, now the trick is to apply that to others , in whom I seem to find things to hate…..
And on the sports note, I spent 5 years lving in Edmonton, coincidentally during the Gretzky years….. I still hate the Calgary Flames. It was quite fashionable for Edmontonians to do so. 😉