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  1. Josh the Baptist says:

    “What if not all are called to be disciple makers?” – What if d-o-g really pelled “cat”?
    The truth is we are all called to make disciples.

  2. Em says:

    going waaay back on Basic Life… his seminars grew in Seattle from just a handful of interested men to everyone in the area had to go to Basic Life, if they were serious about God (even Lutherans)
    in the mid-seventys we changed churches in order to get serious Bible teaching and one morning from the pulpit the pastor made an offhand, but very negative comment about the Gothard ministry, but no details… was the word out clear back then? were the church leaders circling the wagons then? dunno

  3. EricL says:

    Michael, you are fine to work with 🙂
    And the books are coming together smoothly and on-schedule.

    You want difficult… well, back in the days when I was designing Employee Handbooks, I had a church that took almost a year to get their policies together. Went through over a dozen revisions and many of the last ones just changed everything back to how I had originally worded the policies in the first place. Ugh.

    The project took so long that it outlived the tenure of the interim business manager who hired me to do it. Good thing she made sure that I was paid before she left, or else I might still be chasing that church for payment.

  4. DavidM says:

    Regarding Gothard: Back in the ’70’s I learned about “Basic Youth Conflicts” and was invited to a meeting of pastors in Portland, Oregon for a one-day seminar with Bill himself. There were hundreds of men there. It became creepy when Gothard said that he did not use a hand-held microphone because it was a “phallic symbol”. Yikes!! Then when he said that he, in his 30’s at the time, still lived with his parents and that he would not marry unless they approved of his future wife, I wondered about him even more.

    Subsequent to that, probably 10 years later, a family in our church would go every year to Seattle to the BYC week-long meetings. He always invited me and he showed me the manual, enough to break one’s back.

    It always seemed very cult-like to me. To the followers, whatever Bill said was gospel truth.

  5. Disillusioned says:

    The millennial link. If this doesn’t sum up what happened to the CC we used to attend, I don’t know what does.

    Worship as a marketing tool. Heinous.

  6. Michael says:

    I found Stackhouse on egalitarianism compelling…maybe not totally convincing, but compelling.

  7. Josh the Baptist says:

    For once, I think the Millennial got it right.

  8. dswoager says:

    I haven’t gotten around to reading it yet, but note my total lack of surprise that the authenticity blog is on the TGC site. Little surprised it wasn’t Kevin DeYoung… but probably too much comment for an article I only intend to read.

  9. Josh the Baptist says:

    Top ten writings in Christian History…all classics, of course, but a couple of thoughts.

    While, I love Mere Christianity, it seem quite out of its league on this list. #8 Christian writing ever, right behind the Nicene Creed? Wow.

    2 – IS there anyone here who enjoyed Pilgrim’s Progress? I understand that it is a smart allegory and all that, but I just never liked it.

  10. EricL says:

    Josh @9, I never could make it through Pilgrim’s Progress. It hasn’t aged well, but then it is nearly as old as the King James Bible (both were written in the 1600s).

    Michael @6, I also found the Stackhouse book intriguing. I just might buy it. Sadly, no e-book option. What is IVP thinking?

  11. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    EricL, I’d venture that Bunyan wasn’t John Donne, whose poetry and sermons date from slightly before but still hold up nicely. 🙂

  12. Josh the Baptist says:

    Ahh good, two smart guys who understand what I’m saying about Bunyan.

  13. Col46 says:

    You guys ought to try the children’s version of Pilgrims Progress, easy to read and even comes with pictures:-)

  14. Steve Wright says:

    I’ve got a collection of snippets of various length from Bunyan’ writings and THAT work is great to read.

  15. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    as part of a decommunisation process, a Lenin statue has gotten converted into a Darth Vader statue in the Ukraine

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