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  1. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    Darwyn Cooke has passed. Kind of a “you have to be into comics for this to be news”, but I’ve got all of The New Frontier, which has been one of the cooler Justice League long-form stories I’ve ever read. I admired how in his art style he was able to chronologically/stylistically shift from the early Siegel/Finger art styles of the golden age into the silver age styles without missing a beat and getting it to organically fit into the chronology of the narrative.

  2. Welcome back Open Blogging – thanks Michael

    Many churches do not pay attention to the liturgical calendar so this weekend will not observe Pentecost as they march verse by verse through the Bible. So I am posting 2 very good discussions on Pentecost.

    #1 = 57 min – Dr. Carl Fickenscher of Concordia Theological Seminary-Ft. Wayne, IN

    #2 = 40 min – Pastor Brian Kachelmeier of Redeemer Lutheran-Los Alamos, NM = From his weekly interview on Christ in the Old Testament – The Pouring Out of the Holy Spirit

  3. Xenia says:

    Michael, that is one fantastic and terrifying article you linked to. I think everyone should read it. The last paragraph:

    “For Trump is not just a wacky politician of the far right, or a riveting television spectacle, or a Twitter phenom and bizarre working-class hero. He is not just another candidate to be parsed and analyzed by TV pundits in the same breath as all the others. In terms of our liberal democracy and constitutional order, Trump is an extinction-level event. It’s long past time we started treating him as such.”

  4. Xenia says:

    I find myself contemplating voting for Hillary if it looks like the election will be close.

    Lord, have mercy.

  5. Michael says:

    Thanks , Xenia… I hope it gets some attention.

  6. London says:

    Yesterday I attended a strategic planning meeting for an alliance we belong to about Grandparents who are raising their Grandkids. It was an interesting meeting for a number of reasons, but one thing that struck me was that there were no churches represented there.
    At one point, there was discussion about where to hold an upcoming event. Many places around town were mentioned including finding a church willing to let us use space. That idea got shot down right away with the statement “many grandparents won’t attend if it’s at a church according to our feedback”.
    I thought that it was sad, not only for the alliance, but also for the churches. What a ton of opportunity that churches are missing out on to be seen as PART of the community when they don’t show up as equals at the table.

  7. j2theperson says:

    Out of curiosity, London, was there a specific reason given as to why grandparents would not attend an event if it were in a church?

  8. London says:

    They didn’t say.

  9. London says:

    In my own opinion, I think that a lot of the reason some of these grand foljs are raising the kud’s is because of the parents being in jail or absent because of poor choices. I think, along with everything else, grandparents don’t want the judgement they perceive they may receive there.
    Also, there are people who would only attend something at a church of their own choosing and don’t want to be “sucked in” to being sold on another.

  10. Em again says:

    well, i admit i didn’t read every line of the link @ #3.- it is a source of some good history..
    from where i sit (i’d like to be wrong) the Republic has already died
    i seriously doubt that Trump stands any chance of winning the general election in November, even if he gets carried away and cooperates himself into complete oblivion

    but, since the article linked comes to the conclusion that HIllary will be a good President, it killed my desire to put in the effort to unpack the author’s logic – she will be our next puppet President and what was is what will be…

  11. Jean says:

    Happy Saturday everyone from the diaspora in the Midwest. 🙂

  12. Steve Wright says:

    And everyone who wasn’t to the right of Atilla the Hun said Reagan was going to be an extinction level event. The 80s were nothing if not the promise of global nuclear holocaust due to the cowboy in the White House – someone who of course was just a good actor reading his lines while the real puppet masters pulled the strings.

    It is a shame that something like a primary vote (in a nation where most people do not even participate in the electoral process, especially at the primary level) is equated to a total lack of confidence in Americans and our Constitutional process.

    We have Presidents who are almost always a mixed bag – they do some things well, others they screw up, and the country moves on until the next election.

    A few nutcases on the right told us how Clinton was going to refuse to step down. They say the same about Obama. What an insult to the millions of Americans who value freedom, as well as our military, to think one man and a handful of his loyalists are going to successfully destroy the country. The hysteric vapors about Trump sound like those right wing nutcases.

    Trump will govern if he wins, and the Dems in 2 more years will take back Congress if he is a disaster. He will then be primaried and lose in 4 years by his own party (or likely do the LBJ thing and refuse to run to avoid the embarrassment)

    Sting sang the question in the 80s, wondering if the Russians love their children too. Well, Trump loves his, and his many grandkids, and loves the nation and its people. His empire is based on real estate so if nothing else he has a vested interest to see the country thrive.

    All the fear and silly predictions about what Trump MIGHT do when we know Hillary, know her attitude towards imperiled troops overseas, women her husband abused (and hey, check out the new details of Bill’s excellent adventures on the Lolita express thanks to the flight logs), and know her attitude about national secrets to the people who actually DO want to destroy America, Americans, and everything it stands before (that would be the Islamic militants if you have not been paying attention)

    I just finished another biography about Bonhoeffer – just reinforces all the more that anyone who equates the situation in America, and specifically Trump, with the rise of Hitler and the Third Reich needs some serious mental evaluation because there are far greater things to fear in this world than the possibility of a duly elected man taking office in a Constitutional republic, protected by some of the greatest men and women alive in our armed services, coupled with a well-armed citizenry.

    No, not enough to say “Hitler was elected too” and think that makes for the whole similarity to cover Hitler’s many years of madness. Americans aren’t going to go goosestepping off to their local federal agency to hand over their Bibles, guns, and Constitutional protections because even the great Donald trump tells them to….and the idea that this is why he is running is ludicrous on the face of it.

    Fear the people who want to be President when they are in 7th grade, and every action in public, and every cover-up by their enablers, is done with that sole focus and goal. They exist in both parties.

    (Now Michael can blame me for ruining Open Blogging, though he posted the original article to invoke discussion…or was it applause?)

  13. Jean says:

    Steve, “open” means open. This is not Fox News. I appreciate your perspective, even when we don’t agree on all points.

  14. Michael says:

    (Now Michael can blame me for ruining Open Blogging, though he posted the original article to invoke discussion…or was it applause?)

    I edited my response to this…which didn’t take long as it was only two words.

    I have let you post here unedited and unmoderated even though I don’t like you or your views on almost everything.

    My readers find some worth in your participation so I simply ignore you most of the time.

    I’ve never moderated anyone for being a conservative or a Republican, as Jean and I would be here by ourselves for the most part.

    I expected a response from you and that is fine.

    However, the shot at the end isn’t appreciated and won’t be tolerated again.

    I posted the article because I think it is very compelling in it’s historical and philosophical understandings brought forward to today.

    Politically and ecclesiastically we would all profit from reading the great minds that wrote before us and to understand that there are some timeless truths, and this was an excellent opportunity to demonstrate how that works.

    Yes, I think Trump is a dangerous demagog, but I can say that without need for a link.

    This blog is running very well right now without unnecessary strife.

    It’s going to stay that way.

  15. Scott says:

    “I edited my response to this…which didn’t take long as it was only two words.”

    You mean like:
    Be Happy
    Dream Big
    Stay Strong
    Adventures Awaits
    Move On

  16. CostcoCal says:

    “I’ve never moderated anyone for being a conservative or a Republican, as Jean and I would be here by ourselves for the most part.”

    Count me in with you guys!

  17. Michael says:


    Nothing like those at all…but I think you know that. 🙂

    It does bring up another topic that makes no sense to me.

    I don’t read Matt Walsh’s blog.
    I don’t read Breitbart.

    It usually goes without saying that I’m going to disagree with what is said and how it’s said and it’s going to rile and upset me.

    Therefore, I don’t read these sites and I have no desire to comment on them.

    I’m glad they have the right to write what they want and for people to read what they want, but I have no desire to participate.

    There are others, however, (and it happens here) who want to go read stuff that upsets them and then argue all day with people who have no interest in hearing the argument.

    It makes no sense to me why people that don’t like me or the things I write hang out here…or why this same behavior is seen all over the internet.

  18. Michael says:


    We actually have quite a few center/left folks here.
    I was just saying hello to Jean. 🙂

  19. Jean says:

    Hello Michael. Regarding your #18, have you ever noticed how reading stuff you disagree with is good medicine for a case of writer’s block? 🙂

  20. Erunner says:

    My former pastor whom I had a falling out with several years ago is hospitalized and fighting for his life.

    We were at one time the closest of friends but that ended badly as we left his church. Maybe a few months ago I unfriended him on FB because of something he posted that hit me hard. I realized what we had as friends was in the past and it was time for me to move forward.

    If he somehow by the grace of God pulls through I’d like to speak with him again. I don’t know if he will though and right now conversation is out of the question as he is in ICU and on a ventilator.

    It hurts to know he is suffering greatly and we were never able to fix things. Lots of mixed emotions right now.

  21. Michael says:


    It can be. 🙂

    I try not to read any pop level stuff that is just trying to keep one side of an issue inflamed.

    I always read the oppositions stuff in case they’re right and I end up looking like an idiot…

  22. Michael says:


    As I recall, you did the best you could do.
    Sometimes, that has to be enough, my friend.

  23. Cash says:

    Trump’s misogyny alone is a good reason enough not to vote for him. He is a sick man, in my estimation.

  24. I like the idea of having a stripper (or whatever she was when she posed nude) as First Lady. 😉

    That’s a shot back at someone above painting Hillary with what Bill did.

  25. I was just out at an event with a bunch of my friends at a large evangelical / dispensational church this afternoon – and having read a few of the dispy blogs- I have a feeling my links I posted at #2 are going to be more important if you want to hear anything about Penetcost.

    I think some of these churches may break the verse by verse rule but not for a Pentecost sermon (who cares about the pouring out of the Holy Spirit?) – but to celebrate the real event this weekend – It is Israel’s birthday!!!! 😉

  26. Em again says:

    “It makes no sense to me why people that don’t like me or the things I write hang out here…or why this same behavior is seen all over the internet.” what makes no sense to me, and i’ve seen it many times over the years, is why there are certain people who seem to have to have something or someone to hate in order for their lives to have meaning

    Erunner, yes what Michael said… truth be told we have no idea how many folk have misunderstood and disassociated themselves with one another… the Lord will make all things right in His time – praying for you and your friend (he is your friend because you care)

  27. Dallas says:

    “It makes no sense to me why people that don’t like me or the things I write hang out here…or why this same behavior is seen all over the internet.”

    I admit to getting sucked into commenting on some things that just really make me want to vomit (not here). There is a certain sewer that I kick around in that I sometimes can’t help but act as “voice of reason”/troll. Some people will swallow just about any advice whole, I look at my role as that of a chicken bone… hopefully I can get them to choke on it and spit it out.

    It’s probably futile, but it’s also a writing exercise, and a sandbox to work ideas out in.

  28. CostcoCal says:

    So interesting that in the OT, one could make God “change His mind.” Moses did this on more than one occasion. I know it’s mysterious and I’m not suggesting God is not omniscient. It’s just….interesting.
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  29. CostcoCal says:

    Hillary v Trump debate will not lack entertainment value. If only it were not real life.

  30. CostcoCal says:

    Lol you can see I posted the first comment from my facebook page.

  31. I have no issue that God changes his mind. Why is that problematic?

  32. CostcoCal says:

    It’s not problematic to me so much as mysterious.

    I was going to do this but now I’ll do that is mysterious in light of God’s omniscience.

  33. CostcoCal says:

    …it reveals to me that talking to God (ie prayer) is powerful.

  34. Most things we pray to God about, he has not made a decision – he allows us to make the decision – so when we pray, God snickers and say “I told you to make the decision.”
    Doesn’t God somewhere in scripture ask I to come reason with him?

    I think people misinterpret the verse that says God does not change. Well that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t change his mind – it just means that within God himself nothing changes.
    When Moses got God to change his mind, did it change the essence of who God was? Abraham was the big one – not matter how many times God changed his mind about Sodom – he still destroyed it.

    Before some come and say “well if God can change his mind, then perhaps he can change his mind about my salvation.” This is hogwash at it puts God under our thinking. God can change his mind on the things he allows himself to change his mind on … because he is God and he does not change.

  35. Jean says:

    CostcoCal, think about this: Because of what Christ did on the cross, God changed his mind about us. We call that favor Dei propter Christum (the favor of God for Christ’s sake).

  36. Jean says:

    Or, in one word, grace.

  37. CostcoCal says:

    Amen and amen, brothers.

  38. Michael says:

    God does not change His mind.

    God does not ever need to change His mind because His initial choice is always the right choice because He is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfect in all His ways.

    For God to have to change His mind suggests that God was in error with his initial decision.

    I reject that.

  39. Why is that? If I tell my kids you cannot go to the movies and they plead with me to go, so I say “OK, you can go to the movies.”

    How was I wrong with my first decision? Both are equally right – I just chose to change my mind. Am I more free than God?

  40. CostcoCal says:

    I’m not arguing against that, Michael.

    Yet the OT specifically says that He does. On more than one occasion.

  41. Michael says:

    You are not more free than God.
    You are also not omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect in all your ways.
    You have been on a roll lately, however. 🙂

  42. Jean says:

    I would say to possibly bridge Michael’s conviction and mine that God has a hidden will that we’re not privy to, and a revealed will in Scripture according to which his will on certain matters is contingent.

  43. Michael says:


    It also specifically says that He doesn’t.

    “God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?”
    (Numbers 23:19 ESV)

    Now, we have a paradox or contradiction depending on perspective.

    I say it’s easy…God used anthropomorphic language to describe how His ways played out from a human perspective.

    From an eternal perspective, no change was made.

  44. CostcoCal says:

    I agree, Michael.

    And still, the terminology used in Exodus about God changing His mind (“repenting”) makes prayer that much more fascinating to me.

  45. Michael says:


    Whatever floats your boat. 🙂

    I keep it simple.
    God says to pray.
    He says he answers prayer.
    Sometimes you have to pray loud and long.
    The answer was decided and given before eternity.

    However, God ordains the means as well as the end…and everyone here just remembered there was a Calvinist among them. 🙂

  46. Jean says:

    Loud and clear. But we will pray loud and long. 🙂

  47. CostcoCal says:

    Well, yesterday was ideal for rafting down the Rogue…

  48. Em again says:

    in agreement that God does not change … including His mind … perhaps, what does change is His mindset toward a man as the man changes *his* mind 🙂 dunno

  49. Josh the Baptist says:

    Listen, I love Steve. Agree with him on most stuff. Respect him and admire him more than most folks that I only know internet.

    I didn’t like the whacky young real estate mogul Donald Trump. Thought he was a jerk with a God complex. His interviews were crude and demeaning to women and a whole bunch other people.
    I was shocked when he reinvented himself as a reality TV star. Watched the show a few times, and found him even more unlikable. Hated the way he treated people. The way he thought he knew everything.
    Now we get the reinvention as a politician. I honestly thought it was a joke that would turn out to be a publicity stunt. He’s handled himself in the rudest way possible along the way and shown no depth of understanding for any of the issues he’s been asked about.
    Reagan? I’m not big on Reagan either, but you’ll be pressed to find a clip of him bragging about the size of his genitals in an official Republican debate. In fact, I’ve only ever heard one person do that.

    Steve, the fact that this guy is now the best thing the conservatives have to offer should be a huge wake-up call. He’s a joke. You’re not a joke. You are a good, smart, caring, guy. You’ve decide to back a joke.

  50. Paul A. Lytton says:

    In regards to God changing His mind, may I imply that Jesus just prior to His crucifixion basically ask Father God to change His mind, in our view of what He was requesting. However Jesus asked if the Father’s will can happen in any other way, let it be.

    My personal belief is that many times when we ask for things to be different we need to look at the whole picture. Are we asking for God to change His mind, or are we asking for His will to be done another way?

    God can and does change some particulars regarding the way His will is done upon request, but He will never change the main objective of His will to be fulfilled and too result in His righteous goal.

  51. brian says:

    I have to admit I admire this man’s resilience and sheer gall, I lack those spiritual gifts myself. He is a far better person than I could ever be and he is living the life to prove it.

  52. Em again says:

    “Author, I believe in Miracles!, Jesus, beards, World Traveler, tattoos! PayPal link to bless or say thanks…”
    pray for the sheep
    had to lift this quote from your link – you describe him so well, brian 🙂

  53. I need a verse by verse guy to help me out. If the liturgical calendar is not followed and the v by v is the important thing to go through the Bible and cover things as much as God did – is it possible that someone entered your church the week after both the Ascension (last week) and Pentecost this week and they have sat in the church for over 8 yrs and have not had a teaching on those 2 topics?

  54. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    this weekend the irony of a content strategist lamenting the consumeristic tendencies of people who glom onto celebrity pastors got a little to thick to not comment about

    Jared Wilson wrote some stuff that, on paper and as basic precepts, I could easily agree with. But he got to his point 4 and linked to a Tim Challies blog post that turns out to be … sponsored content. Sponsored content seems to be the new euphemism for “advertisement”.

    There’s pretty much no iteration of Wilson’s points in which The Gospel Coalition itself doesn’t seem to be one of the great champions of the problem. I’m not holding my breath for anyone over there to say Doug Wilson and Randy Booth’s A Justice Primer wasn’t worth endorsing. That the book got pulled after a blogger demonstrated there were problems with plagiarism when DeYoung praised the book at The Gospel Coalition as a lively reflection on what justice means in the era of the blog warrior suggests that there’s a case to be made for the legitimacy of the watchblog as a countervailing platform to promotional copy.

  55. Em again says:

    #54 – yikes! ! ! i did not copy that p*yp^I link ! ! ! – HELP – evidently just typing the word results in that link – it wasn’t there when i posted last night, tho – that is creepy and i hope that my #54 will be deleted pdq thank you

  56. Em again says:

    #’s 54 & 57 … now it’s gone … i don’t know whether it got fixed and to say thank you and sorry per my #57 or wonder if i may be delusional … 🙂 hope it’s the former, therefore, thanks and sorry

  57. I have no issue at all with celebrity pastors. I have issue with the people who not only attend churches let by celebrity pastors but who actually demand a celebrity pastor.
    These are people who would not even give consideration going to a non celebrity pastor led church.
    The people who go to celebrity pastor churches are idol worshipers — the pastor, well perhaps he is just a golden calf created by the people.

  58. Em again says:

    #59 – amen and words that should be taken kindly – IMHO – especially by young in the faith Believers

  59. CostcoCal says:

    MLD….Paul was determined to know nothing but “Jesus Christ and Him crucified.” Not and Him risen. Or the Spirit descended. The reason, I believe, is if one preaches Jesus Christ and Him crucified, both the Resurrection and Pentecost will (naturally) also be included in the message(s). But one can quite often preach the Resurrection and Pentecost while glossing over the Crucifixion. And I’m sad to say, many many pastors ands churches do just that.

  60. Costco – you may be limiting Paul too much. I think what that passage is that Paul did not want to preach anything but Jesus at any gathering of the saints.

    I use that passage to tell preachers / teachers that there is nothing else that is to be the topic of a sermon or teaching other than Jesus Christ – no sermons about last days (unless Jesus is mentioned more than Israel — that’s not ever going to happen) – no sermons on living a better life – no sermons on financial planning, Christian dating or having the Power Team out to bend bars and break cinder blocks.

    Hence the Church calendar and the Liturgy centers around Jesus only.

    But I do see how someone would preach the Crucifixion, the Resurrection and Pentecost together.

  61. CostcoCal says:

    If we receive the Lord’s Supper, abide in Hos Wors, worship His Name, and love one another…,we’re in very good shape. 😉

  62. CostcoCal says:

    Darn typos….abide in His Word.

  63. Costco – I think you are on to something.
    However, I don’t think any of it is possible if you have not been repented – baptize – or pentecosted. But I think you knew and presumed that.

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