Calvin’s Corner: The Great Apostasy

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  1. Pastor don kryter says:

    i need your phone number for CSN
    i would like to know how to obtain a copy of Mike Kestler’s radio program 0n 5/13/16

  2. Michael says:

    Pastor Kryter,

    I think Mike Kestler is a godless cretin with the morals of a goat.

    You might want to go to CSN’s website for the information you seek.

  3. Michael says:

    I also offer my apologies to goats and those that love them.

  4. Good show with you and Phil – I have not listened for a while … but the topic did perk my curiosity. I think those you speak about are a real slim group and may only be a portion of dispensationalist. However, those who do speak like that are genuine theological morons.

    As all may know, when it comes to ‘end times events’ I think dispensationalism does not answer a single question / topic / issue correctly. But more broadly my issue is with Rapture Theology and all who believe in any rapture that is not really resurrection of the saints at the 2nd coming.

    Here is my problem with these verses being taken as a rapture and not resurrection. Rapture is not spoken of anywhere in scripture – the whole topic is always resurrection. If this is the case – how can the Thessalonians think they missed the rapture? I am sure that what they thought they had missed because of bad information floating around was they had missed the resurrection and Paul is now assuring them of that event, not some untaught rapture.
    Hey, it is all made up.

  5. Michael says:


    Thanks for listening. 🙂

    I do believe the Rapture and the Second Coming are the same event…

  6. Michael – I know you do, but I wonder why we speak in terms of rapture instead of resurrection?

  7. Michael says:

    That’s a very good question . I do do because we have to debate these matters using the common terms the other side uses. Perhaps it’s time to grow beyond that.

  8. Em again says:

    interesting and combines honesty with scholarship IMHO, but …
    how did those jews remove their circumcision (of the flesh)? and …
    “rapture” may be misleading and carries a lot of baggage today, but going up to meet Christ in the air (whenever that happens) does not seem synonymous with the term resurrection (out of the grave) even though, evidently, we all get new bodies at this moment (?)

  9. David H says:

    Oakland is a divisive fool. I witnessed his shenanigans years ago when he was a guest “pastor” at the Calvary Chapel I attended.

    It was a complete load of horses**t (excuse my language). He had a really slick Power Point presentation with lots of really neat pictures of various world leaders with the Pope, and explained that this was proof of the “great apostasy.”

    The ODMs are much the same as the little old lady that lives on the corner, and chases little kids with a broom. Not who I want to associate with.

    After over a year away from dispensational, judgmental, pseudo fundamentalist mumbo jumbo, I’m a much happier person. It sure does take a lot of time trying to be a better Christian, especially when one is never quite sure why your not a “better Christian,” ever.

    I’m not convinced that scaring people into the Kingdom is highly effective. “If you died today, do you know if you’d go to Heaven?” “Get right with God, we’re in spiritual overtime.” “Events in ______ (pick your region of the world, preferably the Middle East), are proof of my version of prophecy.”

    Rant over

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