I’ve done a lot of reading and watching on Israel and Hamas.
The question I have for P P, is this: what is some Christian perspective on the horrors of war, such as WWII? We’ve been so prosperous and relatively free of calamity for so long, we collectively forget the “natural order” of man’s depravity toward man….
I asked about the Courson’s because every now and then a Instagram reel with Ben Courson will show up with him giving 30 seconds of his deep wisdom and insight. (Note heavy sarcasm)
“The defining problem driving people out is … just how American life works in the 21st century. Contemporary America simply isn’t set up to promote mutuality, care, or common life. Rather, it is designed to maximize individual accomplishment as defined by professional and financial success. Such a system leaves precious little time or energy for forms of community that don’t contribute to one’s own professional life or, as one ages, the professional prospects of one’s children. Workism reigns in America, and because of it, community in America, religious community included, is a math problem that doesn’t add up.”
All wars have depravity and “innocents” on both sides.
How come no one here has pointed to the historic Christian perspective of a “just War?”
Here’s a couple and the RCC has even more:
Augustine – 5th century ‘City of God’
“But, say they, the wise man will wage Just Wars. As if he would not all the rather lament the necessity of just wars, if he remembers that he is a man; for if they were not just he would not wage them, and would therefore be delivered from all wars.”
“They who have waged war in obedience to the divine command, or in conformity with His laws, have represented in their persons the public justice or the wisdom of government, and in this capacity have put to death wicked men; such persons have by no means violated the commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.”
Thomas Aquinas, 13th Century,
“In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign…. Secondly, a just cause…. Thirdly … a rightful intention.”
I believe that it really doesn’t take “demonic activity” to start the fires of war. From our youth it smolders in the embers of all of our hearts ready to be set ablaze by the whims of our passions.
It’s all yours today…tell us what’s on your mind.
Are the Courson’s still in charge of Applegate?
The Courson name is no longer on the Applegate website, but I don’t think that means anything. Jon probably rules from his living room.
PH,
They still control the place…the property is worth millions…
A lot of anti-semitism is being shown out there… Wow.
Anti-semitism is like the clap, it never goes away.
Do you have a link DH?
Hey Muff, I’m not a Fox viewer… but here’s one –
https://youtu.be/SE_IHny0Vd4?si=t_9VxIdvc-42eXVG
I’ve done a lot of reading and watching on Israel and Hamas.
The question I have for P P, is this: what is some Christian perspective on the horrors of war, such as WWII? We’ve been so prosperous and relatively free of calamity for so long, we collectively forget the “natural order” of man’s depravity toward man….
jtk,
War is the result of the depravity of man…and the activity of the demonic.
We can think more deeply than that…there are legitimate questions about whether Christians should participate in war…but those are for another day…
I asked about the Courson’s because every now and then a Instagram reel with Ben Courson will show up with him giving 30 seconds of his deep wisdom and insight. (Note heavy sarcasm)
Turkey, Erdogan, is now threatening war on Israel, to send Army to Gaza.
I should be more specific. Does anyone have detailed reports of the depravity of a serious previous war with Christian perspective and it?
I seem to recall CS Lewis addressing it…
We have a high body count of innocents on both sides, not that both sides are morally equal…
Thanks for what you wrote, Michael
Piney,
No doubt there’s something “deep.”
I’ve seen a few short devotional teachings by Jon on YouTube. Still uses the title Searchlight.
From an article in The Atlantic:
“The defining problem driving people out is … just how American life works in the 21st century. Contemporary America simply isn’t set up to promote mutuality, care, or common life. Rather, it is designed to maximize individual accomplishment as defined by professional and financial success. Such a system leaves precious little time or energy for forms of community that don’t contribute to one’s own professional life or, as one ages, the professional prospects of one’s children. Workism reigns in America, and because of it, community in America, religious community included, is a math problem that doesn’t add up.”
All wars have depravity and “innocents” on both sides.
How come no one here has pointed to the historic Christian perspective of a “just War?”
Here’s a couple and the RCC has even more:
Augustine – 5th century ‘City of God’
“But, say they, the wise man will wage Just Wars. As if he would not all the rather lament the necessity of just wars, if he remembers that he is a man; for if they were not just he would not wage them, and would therefore be delivered from all wars.”
“They who have waged war in obedience to the divine command, or in conformity with His laws, have represented in their persons the public justice or the wisdom of government, and in this capacity have put to death wicked men; such persons have by no means violated the commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.”
Thomas Aquinas, 13th Century,
“In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign…. Secondly, a just cause…. Thirdly … a rightful intention.”
I believe that it really doesn’t take “demonic activity” to start the fires of war. From our youth it smolders in the embers of all of our hearts ready to be set ablaze by the whims of our passions.
“How come no one here has pointed to the historic Christian perspective of a “just War?”’
We’ve done articles on the subject in the past…
Wasn’t the early church nonviolent until Constantine?
https://www.phoenixpreacher.com/41262-2/