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  1. Stephen says:

    Does anyone know a good resource for Scholarships or Grants? I’m finally trying (again) to go to seminary. I couldn’t afford it last time (over 5k/term AFTER scholarships) but now I’m trying it again but at a different school.

  2. Michael says:

    Good question…I hope we get some helpful answers…

  3. Duane Arnold says:

    Stephen,

    What I have learned through the years is that there is not a single source for scholarships and grants. Instead, you have to put together a package with numerous sources of funding. Start with anybody who oversees financial aid at the seminary you wish to attend. Go on from there to look at denominational sources or sources related specifically to your area of study. You might also check if any of the seminary departments offer assistantships in which you could serve and make some extra money. It is much more difficult than it used to be in my day… Best of luck!

  4. Josh says:

    Duane is right – I graduated in 2019. My finding was that the easiest way to get gulp funding for Seminary is through a denomination , next help from your home church. After that, each school usually has donors that have a fund set up for tuition assistance. This may be need based, geographic based, or related to which field the student may go into. If the school is accredited by one of the four federally recognized organizations, you can get student loans or a Pell grant if you qualify.

  5. Stephen says:

    Thanks, Duane and Josh (and Michael),

    So, yeah: the denomination already took about 1/4 off of the cost of tuition and the scholarship from school should provide from half to the full remaining cost of tuition, but how much exactly will be determined at a later date (as Josh said-lots of factors go into this part).

    Unfortunately, although it is an accredited school (from AA to PhD), Grad students are not eligible for FAFSA grants (such as Pell grants, etc).

    I’ll keep looking. There has GOT to be something else out there.

  6. Reuben says:

    I officially turn “over the hill” (50) today. Not really enthusiastic over that. Drinking coffee and reflecting at about 4:30 this morning, I always thought life was slow until I look back and realized it was super fast.

  7. Duane Arnold says:

    Happy Birthday, Ruben!

  8. Terry says:

    Reuben – I turned 64 two months ago. I’m helping with my 94 year old father-in-law, and my son is 34. My life is framed in 30 year increments.

  9. R'as al Ghul says:

    Reuban @ your 3:29 AM,

    Congrats.

    You were born about six months after my baby brother. I hit the big 5-0 about 4 years ago.

    So in honor of that significant milestone, I offer you what I offered my baby brother when turned 50.

    A gift card for a colonoscopy, followed by a complimentary AARP membership 😀

  10. R'as al Ghul says:

    Stephen,

    But grad students do qualify for Stafford Loans.

  11. UnCCed says:

    Requesting prayer and thoughts, but only those meant to help.
    Been slowly getting nudged to amil position for years now and in the small OR town I live (don’t ask), that means Lutheran or Church of Christ.
    I’m not debating eschatology (or anything) anymore, so please don’t, but you current/former CC can appreciate how amil means I’ve “left the faith” or stupid.
    I would appreciate sincere pros and cons of both choices, but be respectful as I’m ignorant of both but will love either congregation as we’ll be together for eternity.
    Also, depression and military injuries are really taking a whack right now, no I don’t go to the VA, don’t ask.
    Thanks.

  12. Michael says:

    UnCCed,

    Praying…and I’ll offer this .

    Eschatology in terms of the timing of the Second coming is close to being the most unimportant doctrine in all the Christian corpus.

    We can’t be certain about such…what matters is how you live and Who you worship.

    He’s coming back…that’s all I really need to be sure of.

    The VA has some amazing programs in Southern Oregon…hoping you get some help in any case.

  13. Michael says:

    Reuben,

    Happy birthday…every time I see you here or on Facebook I celebrate that you’re with us and pray for healing and restoration…and if you think things move fast now…wait ten years.

  14. pstrmike says:

    I understand the angst with the VA. Can’t seem to get anywhere with them either and I do have a disability that could be considered service-related of which I received treatment for while on Active duty.

  15. pstrmike says:

    and…. happy birthday, Reuben!

  16. UnCCed says:

    Michael,
    Thanks, while I agree with your comment about eschatology theologically, but disagree practically.
    I no longer have the desire to be forcefed RNC/fox news message waiting for some words about Jesus.
    I do want “what matters is how you live and Who you worship,” so I found teachers which remained focused on Jesus, then after months accidentally discovered they’re amil.
    I guess you can’t simultaneously teach Jesus and anger/blame for the current scapegoat/threat to $/power, or at least it’s a lot harder, or maybe it’s just these teachers.

  17. UnCCed says:

    From my first post, can anyone tell me about Lutheran or church of christ?

  18. Michael says:

    UnCCed,

    Depends on which branch of Lutheranism it is.
    Church of Christ is defined here…
    https://www.christianity.com/church/denominations/churches-of-christ-10-things-to-know-about-their-history-and-beliefs.html

  19. R'as al Ghul says:

    Michael @ your 10:04,

    I agree with your statement about eschatology. It is right up there with the specifics of how the Creation narrative unfolded. Unfortunately, in both cases you have fanatics using these tertiary issues as a litmus test.

  20. Jean says:

    “Unfortunately, in both cases you have fanatics using these tertiary issues as a litmus test.”

    I would just want to comment that if your eschatology insists you must be a Zionist or support the nation state of Israel carte blanche, those are not tertiary issues.

  21. pstrmike says:

    Maybe it’s just me, but I wouldn’t select a church primarily based on eschatology. I think all the end time views have their weaknesses and their strengths, and there are other areas of the faith that we can focus on, developing our spiritual lives and growth in Christ. We are going to do business until he comes, not idly holding our breath waiting for it to happen.

  22. jtk says:

    Hope y’all still read this thread…
    what do I say,
    how do I think about a situation where
    an generally discontent fellow thinks he needs to leave our church because it’s a sinking ship, “no church ever survives long-term.”

    Our church had more people make decisions for Jesus than ever in the 20 years we’ve been here, had record growth, the finances are up….

    He just quit his job which clearly is LIKE a sinking ship….

    Am I alone in this experience? Literally never had this convo in 29 years of ministry…usually the unhappy leave and don’t talk about.

  23. Michael says:

    jtk,

    You hope he leaves quickly and quietly…you can’t argue with peoples delusions…

  24. jtk says:

    Thanks.

    I hope he rethinks his delusions….I am naive too often potentially….

    I told him that he should leave if it’s really a church that’s sinking….
    I get off a boat that’s sinking…..

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