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  1. bob1 says:

    That’s quite an article. A great deal to chew on. I guess my biggest takeaway is how utterly crucial the human element is. Unfortunately that doesn’t give me a ton of hope.

  2. Stephen says:

    I must have been in a mood the other day and got into an internet kerfuffle with an online personality wit a title “Rev” attached right before his name at the bottom of every post. (That on and of itself makes me cringe, but I digress). I’m not sure (he permanently blocked me after this incident ) but I think he has several thousand FB followers.

    99% of the time I just shrug off when (in my estimation) a personality promotes/posts incorrect interpretations and applications stemming from poor hermeneutics. Yet, for whatever reason, this was that other 1%. I guess what he said just pushed a nerve and I outright said he was incorrect and provided what I (still) consider true and more accurate.

    He actually replied to me, which was shocking but the reply was that I went through a lot if gymnastics to get my thoughts to for the text.

    I suppose I should say: For clarification, he said: every writer of scripture was an immigrant or refugee. And he used Matt 25 (When I was…you did/didnt) to apply to poor treatment of immigrants (illegal and illegal).

    Anyway: he didn’t address my thoughts but rather then copied/pasted a bunch of scriptures from Deut about treating aliens well, etc.

    (Side note: my statement in my original post said nothing about not treating them well and I actually stated that Christian’s need to “love them like a biblical neighbor” and showing an abundance of grace and mercy).

    My point of contention was clearly about the two things I stated 3 paragraphs above this sentence.

    Well, I did my best to remain tactful but I guess I wasn’t as his next reply was that I didn’t know what I was talking about and I needed to study better/more.

    I replied again basically with “wow, you can’t address my argument and resort to that?” But after posting I noticed his posts were being edited. Literally, full sentences and paragraphs were gone. Apparently, he was editing out things he said (not correcting or redacting) and publishing the edited posts. (I’ve never heard of portions of posts being missing on FB).

    Of course, I mention that I’m seeing this and shortly I answer the few people who challenged me or outright were saying I hated immigrants (which is funny because I’m married to one) then comes the inevitable block/etc.

  3. Terry says:

    Is there a consensus opinion about the Blue Letter Bible in this online community? I have avoided it for a decade because of it’s connections to Calvary Chapel and Koinonia House. I recently tried using it for some in-depth study and am more impressed than I expected. For being a free online tool, I’m not sure there is anything else like it. But I’m concerned word translations and cross-references might be steering me down the dispensational/fundamentalist path. Thoughts?

  4. Stephen says:

    Terry,

    While I use another tool for study, BLB had great resources (especially for being free). If you stay away from the Calvary Chapel commentaries, your concerns will not be an issue.

  5. Michael says:

    Terry,

    My assessment is pretty uncharitable…so much of that site is cringeworthy.

  6. Terry says:

    Stephen – Thanks. Will avoid commentaries.

    Michael – I just checked out netbible.org (aka Lumina). Do you have a preferred online source for research?

  7. Michael says:

    Terry,

    I haven’t looked at online resources in years. I’ve (painfully) built up my Logos and Accordance software over the years.

    I do use the NET notes pretty frequently…mainly in word comparisons.

  8. WenatcheeTheHatchet says:

    Logos had a freebie of Thomas Torrance’s Space, Time and Incarnation I couldn’t resist grabbing a few years ago. If there was a Logos book give away to jump at THAT was one of them!

    I find Ted Gioia exasperating reading. On jazz and blues history he’s really good but I have little patience with him in futurist mode and he’s so egregiously bad about theology it is amazing to consider that his brother Dana is considered a leading Catholic American poet and yet Ted seems to be some neo-Orphic shaman jazzbro who can’t get basic things about Augustine right from Augustine’s own writings! But if you want to read about him about the history of West Coast jazz rather than anything about theology he is a fantastic music historian. Just steer clear of him on almost everything else. That said he is a punchy and readable stylist so even when he’s disastrously wrong he’s at least READABLY so. 🙂

  9. Josh says:

    We tried another church this week. Not a fit, again, was discouraged, again. But then my wife and I talked Sunday night and realized that out of all the churches we tried in the last few months, there are two that we’d both like to try again. That was encouraging for some reason. Just that there was something there that both of us noticed individually, that gave us a reason to return.

    The search continues, but not nearly as pessimistic as I was before.

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