Things I Think…

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  1. Michael says:

    I’ll be in and out all day…I’m taking T to his first job interview.
    From there, I’ll be reserving space in a rest home… 🙂

  2. Papias says:

    Good luck on the Job interview T!
    Just be yourself and leave the rest to the Lord. If He wants you to have the job you will get it and theres no way to mess it up!

  3. Jean says:


    “‘Come, for everything is now ready. [You don’t need a reservation.]”


  4. ( |o )====::: says:

    Yay T! Such an important event in one’s life and the life of a parent. =)

  5. The New Victor says:

    I just did normal things with the kids. I don’t feel the need to celebrate myself or be celebrated for doing the job God has given to me to shepherd my lambs. Now if only I could interest my son in playing catch with me, especially since I never had a dad to do this with… (goes to put on Field of Dreams).

    One thing that bugged me is I saw someone on FB put up something thanking all of the dads out there… but it was ruined by a follow up, “all of the deadbeat dads should be ashamed of themselves.”

    I have a small circle of very close friends. Two of them have deadbeat moms. One of the moms is dead, and suffered from several severe mental illnesses. Dr. Craig Childress is leading a charge to pathologize parental alienation in order to get the mental health community and the courts to work together to do fact-based evaluations in the cases of high-conflict custody battles. In a lot of cases, so-called deadbeat dads are the victims of severe alienation tactics (including false accusations) by the custodial parent. The courts have been slowly coming around, but they have a long way to do. It is similar to public policy regarding domestic violence, in that it is driven by decades-old data, which back then may have been incorrect.

  6. ( |o )====::: says:

    We celebrate Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, Awesome Offsprings’ Day, birthdays, anniversaries, random days, just about any reason to celebrate!

    Woo hoo!!

  7. Josh the Baptist says:

    I think the focus on the sermon goes back to Zwingli. I agree with that view, and many others that he was known for…but the guy was a real rascal apparently. Honestly, every major figure of the reformation was pretty much a mess.

  8. JoelG says:

    I appreciate my dad, but not because some Hallmark Holiday tells me I should. And I don’t really like the attention of Fathers Day. I’m an ok dad. Not great, not bad. It’s an awkward day.

  9. bob1 says:

    Standards have served us well for a long time…

    Agreed. It’s foolish to abandon that which has benefited us so much. We need to see the big picture, which includes the fact that we can judge what’s true versus its opposite.

    “That’s your truth”= foolishness

    “Post-truth is pre-fascism.” — Timothy Snyder, “On Tyranny: 20 Lessons from the Twentieth Century”

  10. Captain Kevin says:

    10. “When we decided that preaching was the most important part of the worship service, we completely skewed what worship really is…and placed a burden on pastors that they weren’t intended to carry…”

    There may be some here who disagree, but I say, “A-freakin-men!”

  11. Nathan priddis says:

    I have never gotten into the church service Fathers Day recognition.
    M/D…that’s a different story. Most expend their life on the family. And so many are single moms, or mis-treated. Some public recognition, and oblitory after service chocolate, might make some mom happy. Go for it.
    But let’s be honest about how and why I’m a father in the first place. I guess I really feel I take after my father Adam. My personal train wreck, overwhelms and dominates the life of some female. Whatever female is in close proximity.
    But, there were ribs after service. Guess the staff thinks I’m a raging carnivore besides mearly sex obsessed. It’s always nice to be seen as multi-faceted.
    They were good ribs. Thumbs up.

  12. Descended says:

    Excellent point

    But since so many church services are centered around a rockin worship set, I say if your church service cannot function if your worship leader quits or sucks then that, too, is a burden not meant for the worship worship band. The question is where do you find a church like that?

  13. Josh the Baptist says:

    All I ever wanted was to be a dad. Early as I can remember. Been one for 14 years now. It is better than I ever dreamed.

  14. Josh the Baptist says:

    I won’t say that a service HAS to be centered on the preaching, but it better be centered on the Word. If the mode of Scripture delivery in your church is preaching, then the sermon should absolutely be the central thing.

  15. JoelG says:

    “They were good ribs. Thumbs up.”

    I thought bacon was meat of choice among man-centered church gatherings. Huh…

  16. em... again says:

    1 – i think that a rose offered to the moms and a carnation for the dads as they enter the sanctuary is all the recognition that needs to be given to those two Sundays
    2 – i kind of feel sorry for those folk whose gender is a problem… never been sorry that i lived this life female (from day one)… even with life’s challenges that are imposed on each gender’s role… how sad to be traumatized to the point that the opposite sex doesn’t seem wonderfully different, let alone your own gender
    3 – “It is a forced anarchy of the mind and moral ethics and I’m not playing….” i’m with Michael
    4 – another amen
    5 – boycott advertisers for the annoying commercials – that might be good
    6 – i had four Catholic aunts and uncles… they were kind of evil… like the rest of us
    7 – i have no quarrel with the So. Baps except they wouldn’t let me teach Sunday School, after i was dunked by them, i had to start all over again… my husband could, tho, his independent Baptist dunking was okay
    8 – hope the rest is restorative
    9 – stayed completely off social media… if you can’t email me personally, i’m not interested… trouble is my kids and my relatives won’t fill me in on family events
    10 – it the preaching doesn’t cause worship, it wrong – that much i’m sure of

    thanks for the excuse to sit down… it was an tiring morning 🙂
    but i always love the things Michael thinks and the comments … God keep the T as he grows up now in this slightly unhinged world…

  17. Papias says:

    We had a Father’s day service yesterday: the text was Ephesians 5:28-33. I fall so short of the “standard” that Christ made in loving the Church.
    Men got slammed by the “law” and not so much grace.
    “Happy Fathers Day guys!” 🙁

  18. DavidM says:

    Point #6 I resent those Christian “leaders” who, back in 1970, made sure that I knew that the Catholic church was the “woman upon the beast” of Revelation (to even say that now makes me cringe). These “leaders” were pretty much brand new in the faith and had no basis for making such claims. It was said in ignorance and it was simply mimicking what they had heard their pastor say. As the years have gone by, I have come to realize that there are people who love the Lord Jesus in the Catholic church and in every other denomination. When I became a Christian, my Catholic grandmother took me aside and, with tears in her eyes, told me that she had been praying for me for years to find Jesus. She was rejoicing in JESUS, not Catholicism.

  19. Dan from Georgia says:

    em…your comment on point 9 I resonate with. I am not on social media and I feel sometimes like I live in a cave in regards to family and friends…doesn’t anyone know how to use the phone function on their smarta## phones? Email? Letters? Laziness maybe I guess.

  20. Dan from Georgia says:

    Further thoughts on item 9…I know many like and use Facebook, and I did at one time, but I sometimes like to call it Fakebook because it seems like some people like to…well…exaggerate their mundane lives and make it look like everything they do and think and post is fabulous and worthy of a trophy.

  21. Scooter Jones says:

    Michael, regarding your #2, everything today is cya, then again, maybe not.

  22. Em says:

    #21 … FWIW – there’s an article floating around out there still, I think, titled ‘ Death by a thousand clicks’ – butbetween the government’s demands on insurance cos and the hospitals covering their rears up down and sideways, a patient”s we!fare comes in third as the medical staff spends 80% plus of their time online filling out forms – you may die, but the documentation will be there to prove “we did everything we could ” (except observe the patient)

  23. Duane Arnold says:

    #18 David M

    My friend, David, is the best example I know of someone who is wholly Catholic, Christian and Evangelical… best thing, he’s still on fire….

  24. Captain Kevin says:

    Em’s response to #10 – “if the preaching doesn’t cause worship, it’s wrong…”

    I completely agree. The quote has been attributed to a few different guys, but I think it may have been Packer who said that theology must lead to doxology.

    That’s why I always tilt a little when someone speaks of worship in terms of the time that prepares our hearts for the message. No…No…NO!!! I loved how our old Calvary did their Saturday night service. There was usually one song, welcome and announcements, and another song followed by the teaching, THEN we would sing maybe 7 or 8 songs, during which we would also celebrate the Lord’s Table and occasionally witness baptisms.

    In addition, worship is also not a church growth strategy, as in “If we hire a young, hip worship leader with a mohawk and tattoos, it will draw more young people into our church.” Puh-LEEEZ!!!

    If the musical portion of a service does prepare someone’s heart to receive the Word, great! If young people happen to be drawn because they like the worship leader, OK I guess. But those are by-products, not the purpose. The purpose of worship is…well…wait for it…… worship the Lord!!! That’s it, plain and simple.

  25. Captain Kevin says:

    Josh: “All I ever wanted was to be a dad. Early as I can remember. Been one for 14 years now. It is better than I ever dreamed.”

    That makes me smile, Josh!!!

  26. Captain Kevin says:

    “My friend, David, is the best example I know of someone who is wholly Catholic, Christian and Evangelical… best thing, he’s still on fire…”

    Although I’m not Catholic, I think this is awesome!!!

  27. Captain Kevin says:

    Michael: “I’m tired of the tyranny of the few in every place in society…”

    I’m with you on that. It has gone way beyond ridiculous.

  28. Disillusioned says:

    I would estimate that at least 75% of the people who attended our old CC were ex-Catholics. There was a concerted effort to continually remind us that we had escaped the Whore of Babylon.
    Also, there was a definite push to use that , in a cult-like manner, to separate us from our Catholic family and view them as a ‘mission field’ because “we’re your family now.”
    My family? Still loves me. CC? Not so much.

  29. Papias says:

    The Elephants Debt is back with more Harvest Bible Fellowship news with James MacDonald “stepping down from leadership and his new(ish) mansion :

    A few years ago we checked out a local Harvest but left after a couple of months. It didn’t feel right to us then and I’m glad God gave us enough hesitations to not get committed the body too soon.

  30. JoelG says:

    #1 – Final thought – I will take a spontanious act of love from my kids on any other day of the year rather than some schmaltzy Father’s Day day on said day. The world isn’t coming apart because we don’t acknowledge moms and dads on a contrived holiday.

    #2 – Is this really “tyranny”? If someone wants to identify as a dog how does it affect me? It’s not taking away from my own identity.

    #4- Longing for “normal” leads to comments like #21. God help anybody that struggles with homosexuality in his circle.

    Thanks for letting me vent my abnormal views.

  31. Michael says:


    It becomes tyranny when I am legally obligated to to recognize the person who identifies as a dog…as a dog.

    I’m ok with anyone struggling with the results of the Fall…the key word is struggling.

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