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  1. Bob Sweat says:



    Re: #5, I completely understand. For years, I have been haunted by the Christmas season. It has nothing to do with the celebration of Christ, but everything to do with the celebration of family. The sadness of my past has prevented me from celebrating the present.

  2. Michael says:


    If not for Trey I wouldn’t acknowledge the season at all except theologically.
    My favorite day of the year is Dec 26th…because it’s all over and hope for a new year takes the place of the pain.
    Thank you for walking with me…

  3. 2. Beware those who block the door to truth. A person only obfuscates the truth when he has something to hide. A person desperately trying to hold on to his position is the most dangerous of all creatures.

    3. I disagree with this on sooo many levels.
    a.) I think you are missing the point of the Noah story. The point is the same as the Adam story, the Red Sea story, and the Jesus story. The point is that God provided a way. That is something to be thankful for, and act of grace from a merciful God. Again, not one person died who did not deserve it.
    b.) It would be completely inappropriate to teach children about thousands of bloated corpses. All the things that you made light of – the ark, the animals, the rainbow- are actually right there in the bible. The floating corpses are not. Now, Noah’s story is rich with a lifetime full of lessons, but they cannot all be learned at once, and not all will be digestible by children.
    c.) The reason that you are even considering the deeper implications of the Noah story is that someone taught you the flannel board version when you were a child. Give another child that same learning opportunity. Fill their minds with wonder at the greatness of a God who provided the way for salvation through the flood. Allow their minds to wrestle with that for the next 50 years like yours has. Don’t stunt their growth by trying to cram your 50 year old lesson into their 8 year old brain.

    4. I agree that everyone needs to revisit their beliefs on gender roles. How many are scriptural and how many are cultural? See my answer at number two. If the truth is on our side, we will have nothing to hide in the process.

    6-10. I’ll just say amen!

  4. I am at lunch right now, but I was thinking earlier that it would be useful to have a list of the committee members who will attend the hearing about Saeed.

  5. Michael says:


    Steve is on that…and we’ll publish it here as well.

  6. The incarnation is shocking because it comes into a world where men of power were so often deified. The religions of the world were riddled with man-gods who struck fear and awe into hearts by sword and conquest. The revelation of God in Christ as a king who made himself powerless is indeed beyond comprehension.

    I think no one is taking a greater hit by the internet effort to liberate Saeed Abedini than Michael who made himself invisible to bring focus to #FreeSaeed.

    I am troubled by the matter with Janet Mefferd… more light should shine on how that unfolded.

  7. Michael says:


    I’m not suggesting we terrify Sunday School children with the reality of what happened at the Flood.
    I am suggesting that we have lost the tension between the gift of God and what its cost was and between the grace of God and the justice and wrath of God.
    You often have said that all those people deserved hell and that is true.
    We also deserved hell…and if we don’t understand what we were saved from it minimizes what we have been saved to.

  8. Papias says:

    “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom…so when you have a God from whom there is nothing to fear, you worship an idol.”

    Ummmm…. stealing this. With credit of course. 🙂

    I hope you are well my friend.

    “The only thing better than a good Reuben sandwich, is saving the other half of it for lunch the next day.” – Papias

  9. Michael says:


    I am quite content to remain invisible this week if we can affect this mans release.
    My mind boggles at what he is enduring…

  10. Michael says:


    I’m hanging in there, my friend.
    You can always use all you finds useful here without worry of credit. 🙂

  11. “We also deserved hell…and if we don’t understand what we were saved from it minimizes what we have been saved to.”

    Completely agree. I guess I just missed the point of the Noah reference. Not particularly Noah, but in regards to difficult passages, I think we soften them too much. We try to lessen their impact. Make them less offensive. I think the result is the same as you describe. We don’t understand God, and we have no clue what is at stake.

  12. I can only ask for your forgiveness and understanding…December is a thick, cold blanket of despair for me. I’m doing the best I can.

    But you’re a Calvinist, Michael, you should feel right at home in December. I always thought the Pacific Northwest was perfect Reformed theology weather: Stormy and menacing. SoCal’s for evangelicals.

  13. Papias says:

    When I (try to) explain Bible stories to my kids, I am often struck by the reality and “harshness” of the things we discuss – the Flood, the Exodus,the Crucifixtion….we do want to paint things in a way that seems more… palatable. Sometimes, I just have to say it like it is and let the facts speak for themselves.

    God has done some things that we may never understand in this life.

    But if we understand that this life is merely a prerequesite to the next life, then maybe we will hold our tongue and accept that there’s more to learned than we could possibly imagine.

  14. Dude says:


    I can agree with your view point about Christmas.Spending the day with my non christian family can be a real drain on my soul sometimes.The the women want to watch chick flicks all day and that drives me nuts.

  15. Michael says:


    The joy of election is best expressed in sub tropical temps.
    Even Catholics know this…Mary is most often spotted in Mexico… 🙂

  16. Michael says:


    I find this whole thing challenging.
    When Trey and I talk about these things he gets very disturbed by the realities implied and he does so without me mentioning them.
    I never really wrestled with these things until the last couple of years…

  17. Hahaha. Too-shay.

  18. Michael says:


    I draw the line at chick flicks…can’t go there. 😉

  19. Best Chick Flick ever? Steel Magnolias?

  20. Papias says:

    Josh – I won’t even go there.

    Best Christmas movie – Die Hard. (OK – not typical Christmas fare, but it takes place during Christmas, so it counts!)

    Runner up – Lethal Weapon. 🙂

    And with that…. I gotta get back to work…

  21. Nonne says:

    I think the reality of the flood, the crucifixion, etc should be explained to children the same as the “facts of life.” We tell them the truth…but the truth of what they need to hear at the time… and when they ask more questions, we answer truthfully. I remember when my daughter asked “how does the seed the man plants get into the mothers’ tummy?” When I told her, (as gently as possible) she was shocked!

  22. Rob says:

    Underlayers of Driscoll drama.

    1. He was confronted by a woman.

    2. She did not submit to his (male/pastoral/teacher) authority.

  23. Nonnie says:

    Steel Magnolias and Terms of Endearment.

    Oh, and if you have never seen The Joy Luck Club, you have missed a gem of a film. Fantastic film.

  24. Nonnie says:

    Rob, I wonder what would have happened had a man confronted Driscoll???

  25. I want to know what happened in the Janet Mefferd case…
    I want to know if anyone is covering it…
    I want to know if she is under ongoing restrictions because of it…
    I want to know about this.
    And I am on record as saying that I thought she was unreasonable. That is not the same as being put under constraint because of your opinions or questions. She should not be censured, at most a moderating response but not censure complete with being censored. This is sticking in my craw… tell me if I am wrong.

  26. Solomon Rodriguez says:

    Mark Driscoll is my Hero and he should be yours too!

  27. Michael says:


    Thee are new charges of plagiarism today…and when we have #freedsaeed…I will endeavor to find out all I can on this matter.

  28. Michael says:

    I think there is more than a little truth to what Rob is saying…

  29. Solomon Rodriguez says:

    “Steel Magnolias and Terms of Endearment.

    Oh, and if you have never seen The Joy Luck Club, you have missed a gem of a film. Fantastic film.”

    Along with “Fried Green Tomatoes” and “The Divine Revelations of the Ya Ya Sisterhood” gotta go down in as all times in the Chick Flick Hall of Shame!

  30. Jim says:

    “The joy of election is best expressed in sub tropical temps.”

    It’s 82 here today. We have plenty of room here in sleepy east coast central Florida. Well, not in my condo, but the area is underdeveloped by Florida standards.

  31. Michael says:

    That’s how many layers of clothing I have on…

  32. Noelle says:

    Your #9 made me smile so big!

  33. Becky says:

    Best chick flick for a reformation girl- Lady Jane. Okay carry on.

  34. Rob Murphy says:

    I don’t know that it’s at the top of chickflick list, but ‘Sense and Sensibility’ gets me feeling dusty-eyed and I don’t have to shave my face for about three days after I watch it. Not to mention I attain to a higher level of accessorizing for up to a week…

  35. Depends on the ‘chick’ – my wife likes to watch Commando with me. 🙂

  36. Jim needs to keep his 82’s to himself… 🙂

  37. No, I take that back he needs to share the warmth.

  38. Bob Sweat says:

    Walk to Remember or The Notebook

  39. Noelle says:

    Oh, and best chick flick…

  40. Come on Noms…Pretty in Pink?

  41. brian says:

    Went out riding on my bicycle last night it was 30 degrees, got in about ten miles. I did 17 today I started a bit earlier.

  42. brian says:

    I am also pretty upset about the Driscoll Caner issues but the entire doug phillips thing really ticks me off. The stuff that is coming out is awful.

  43. Give us a chick flick, Brian.

  44. erunner says:

    Notting Hill, The Lake House, While You Were Sleeping, Serendipity, Rambo Gets Married!!! That’s the tip of the iceberg. I love me some chick flicks! 🙂

  45. I think the rampant chick flick thread is making me nauseous. :-(*)

  46. You go E. That’s a confident man!

    I guess Pretty Woman qualifies? I love that one. 🙂

  47. brian says:

    Red Dawn, Red Dawn Two, the Expendables 1-2 Saw 1-900000^10

    Actually Where the Red Fern Grows, The Yearling, The Acorn People Patch Adams

  48. Saw… 🙂 That’s funny Brian.

  49. erunner says:

    Sorry Derek! 🙂 Josh, There’s so many more that I could name and Pretty Woman qualifies. I recall an NFL player a few years back stated he liked the Lifetime Network. That shook people up!!

  50. Jim says:

    Lara Croft: Tomb Raider and Resident Evil are pretty good chick flix.

  51. Jim says:

    Is Braveheart a chick flick? One of my favs….

  52. Jim says:

    Neo’s GF in the matrix series is badass as well. Excellent chick flick.

  53. Bob Sweat says:

    I hear Rambo lives in BuenO Park.

  54. Bob Sweat says:

    Pulp Fiction

  55. Hey!

    I see Mrs. Schlueter’s name has popped up as the “producer” who resigned. It’s interesting that she would rail against posts and such being removed when she is, or at least was, guilty of the very same things. She just can’t seem to work with anyone very long but it does seem she takes these stands whenever a big name is involved. I dunno why she does this but my personal experience and history with Mrs. Schlueter is that Mrs. Mefferd is probably better off without Mrs. Schlueter.

    I think this story is far from over. In fact I saw this on a private forum I belong to for sydicated radio hosts…..the consensus seems to be Driscoll is a plaigerist, Mefferd is a wannabe Piers Morgan and Schlueter is an opportunist looking for a new radio gig…..I couldn’t print the actual responses as this is a family blog…..unless of course you $%^& with Packer 🙂

  56. covered says:

    That’s funny Phil sounds like a good forum 🙂

  57. It certainly can be….you should hear the stuff they say about Rush lol 🙂

  58. filbertz says:

    Best chick flick? without a doubt: Apocolypse Now.

  59. brian says:

    Lets try another round some of your favorite movies and maybe a phase as to why.

    Sergeant York It dealt with some very very difficult issues in the context of a more rural America.

    Shoes of the Fisherman This current pope sort of reminds me of the lead character.

    Anything Lord of the Ring because its LoR and fun I like long movies makes me feel like I am getting my 10+$ for it. 🙂

    Dr. Strangelove because it is so realistic in its parody of parody.

    Not a movie but on of the funniest tv series ever mystery science theater 3000. Some of the humor was a bit off.

    Best mini series Jesus of Nazareth

  60. brian says:

    Favorite YouTube series, The Atomic Cafe

    bert the turddle

  61. I thought Good Morning Vietnam was an amazing movie. Robin Williams was just brilliant.

  62. J.U. says:

    There’s a movie that came out about ten years ago of the book of John. The script is exactly the text from John.

    I really enjoyed watching that movie as they portrayed the life of Jesus pretty well. It is hard sometimes for people in the 21st century to relate to how they lived in the 1st. Shaking the dust off your sandals makes more sense when you see both the streets and the footwear from that time.

  63. Bob Sweat says:

    Best chick flick? without a doubt: Apocolypse Now.

    Spot on! I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

  64. Bob Sweat says:
  65. Ixtlan says:

    @58,63 I totally agree. Nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning. it smells like……..victory!

  66. Dude says:

    Never realized there were so men on this blog site with a sensitve side.If I were married I would have to adapt…….till then not!
    Scouts out!

  67. stu says:

    I wouldn’t dare post the chick flicks I like.

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