Prophecy Update: 1350

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  1. Em says:

    whoever wrote this proves a point – in my not so humble opinion – the earth cycles and each cycle repeats and intensifies, so when one thinks they see “signs of the times,” they are right, but it is not the end until the end 🙂
    that is what i know – what i feel is that this is a bleak winter, even the several feet of snow on the ground looks grey (it isn’t) – we are surrounded by wolf packs, the elk are devouring cherry orchards and the deer are challenging us for the horses’ expensive supply of winter feed – 6 point bucks that aren’t impressed by our presence… the wild animals are taking over and i feel that the end is near lol

  2. Papias says:

    Yes, who wrote this?

  3. Michael says:

    I wrote it. I don’t have any staff… 🙂

  4. Xenia says:

    Pretty good, Michael. But you know, one of these days this will actually happen. so yes, look up because our Redemption is drawing nigh!

  5. Heidi Smith says:

    The ponderous mass of the American church has been tethered to a hopeless worldview by dispensationalism’s raggedly spliced eschatological threads for such a long time. I pray the Lord to deliver us from our delusion; and soon.

  6. Michael says:

    I totally affirm that there will be a Second Coming.
    I am just weary of the Rapture racket.

  7. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I do like you description of dispensationalism (as could be applied to all rapture type theology) – but let me assure you, they are not a ponderous mass of the American church – in fact they are very much in the minority.

    They may be loud, and they do own almost all of Christian media – publishing, TV and radio, but most don’t buy it.

  8. Miss ODM says:

    The boy may have cried wolf – but the wolf did show up eventually.

    Thou shalt not scoff.

  9. Michael says:

    He is coming…and I’m not scoffing at that truth.
    I’m scoffing at the speculation and false prophecies that have made a mockery of eschatology.
    The endless prophecy updates create scoffers …

  10. DavidM says:

    Love it!! Also, I do not see this as scoffing. It is a commentary on the hysteria that has been going on for the last 50 years about the Lord’s return. To me it serves to illustrate that human events are cyclical, and that this is not the only generation that could have believed that the end of days was just around the corner. And, yes, most of us probably believe that it WILL happen someday.

    But, and I’ll go out on a limb here, for most if not all of us, we will meet death before it all happens.

  11. Em says:

    ha! i thot that post was Michael’s work 🙂

    i don’t know what Hal Lindsey’s motives were in starting the “hysteria” … he has seemed quite happy with himself and it has made several folk nice piles of money … the sad thing is that so many got caught up in shallow, cheap hucksterism – maybe Lindsey et al did so also – dunno
    but do you know how utterly absurd the proposition of a man on the moon and coming back to tell about it would have sounded to your great grandfathers, no matter how educated? this prophesy hysteria may have been fueled by walking on the moon – dunno
    FWIW most of Lindsey’s material was taken from more scholarly Christians who did not see the pieces of the puzzle as money makers – rather those who first identified “eschatological threads” never unwound the skeins – preferring to wait for the threads to be woven in place by God, Himself … the benefit to us in studying prophesy yet to occur is to increase our confidence in God as we wait, we shouldn’t let the nuttiness of the past stop us from doing so … IMNSHO

    just sayin

  12. dswoager says:

    That day is drawing nearer… you know because time is linear and stuff.

  13. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Hal Lindsey just followed the training he received at Dallas Theological Seminary. He and his books were the voice of DTS for 3 decades.

  14. Em says:

    13 – so…?

  15. Ixtlan says:

    Mrs. ODM,

    Thou shalt not rebuketh an elder.

  16. Babylon's Dread says:

    I have always thought of these historic scenario and how they give the lie to the whole prophecy industry scamdal…

  17. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Babs, Perhaps you meant hysteric senarios

  18. surfer51 says:

    Chuck Smith of CCCM built upon the foundation of such.

    He had us kids thinking that “Any day now Jesus could return.”

    I recall on a Monday night Chuck holding up a copy of the LA Times, the headlines touted the “Six Day War” in Israel was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967 by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria.

    He read the article to us and cracked his famous smile, telling us that he wouldn’t be surprised if Jesus returned any day now.

    All of us kids took the bait hook line and sinker.

    We hit the beaches with a zealousness, evangelizing and bringing in the harvest to CCCM.

    We really thought the rapture was imminent because we were taught that it was to take place before Jesus return to the earth.

    I have read Erunner sharing some of the same kind of mindset that he was exposed to in his youth.

    All of the kids main focus was on evangelizing.

    One of the things that irked alot of people was that if they ever asked the Jesus people about how they felt personally about anything, the Jesus People always turned the conversation to evangelical rethoric.

    They would never really give their opinion about how they personally felt about anything.

    Just recently I talked with a man a bit older than my self at the winter Sawdust Festival.

    He was a friend of Tim Hayne the potter who used to sell his wares there.

    The man told me that Tim and his wife Christa were incapable of carrying on a autonomous conversation about their own feelings on things because they always turned every conversation into Bible Scriptures.

    The man was frustrated because they would never interact on a personal level with him, everything was always prophecy and Bible rhetoric.

    “Why couldn’t they just be human beings who open up about how they themselves fell about things instead of the canned responses,” he told me.

    The man’s implication was that all of the Jesus People were like that, as if they were in some kind of a cult of a sort.

    I just smiled as I listened to him share more on his rant about the past and how he felt about things.

    Then when he was finished I said, “I understand my friend, I understand…

    God bless you, I am sorry that you went through that, I seriously believe they cared about you and only wanted to bless you.

    All of us back in those days had a laser focus on evangelizing the world and our own lives took a back seat to everything.

    Pastor Chuck Smith disciplined all of us to be that way by his enthusiasm and belief that the rapture was imminent and we needed to get as many saved as possible, no time for personal interaction about how we were feeling about things.

    Today the Jesus People are more apt to open up and join you in conversation on a more personal level.”

    Gosh all of us kids were so on fire for the Lord and so evangelistic, we were always turning every conversation to prophesy and the rapture and “Jesus said…” instead of building bridges on a personal level with folks.

    We didn’t realize what we had become in the sight of others.

    They wanted to connect with us and couldn’t in a sense, because we were so indoctrinated by the urgency of last days things and our desire for them to be raptured along with us etc.

    I think we may have been more effective for the Lord if we had taken the time to connect with people and were more autonomous in our approach instead of the “canned response” we always gushed out with to others.

    A prime example in my mind is Jesus at the well with the Samaritan woman who had come out of the city to draw water.

    Jesus the son of man’s conversation with her is a magnificent example of how to connect with another human being without seeming like a programmed machine.

    He connected with her and related to her where she was at on her level in her own existence.

    Because iniquities shall abound in the last days, the love of many will wax cold. Matthew 24:12.

    Even the Christians fervor for the Lord begins to go down, down, down. So you see how necessary it is that we keep ourselves sensitive to the Lord and to the voice of the Spirit, that we become better Christians and truly learn to walk with God.

    We must not become victimized by this age until all our spiritual senses are dulled. We want to hear and we want to see.

    When the Samaritan woman came to Jesus while He was sitting at the well (John 4), He had the depth of perception to see everything that had happened to her, and to lead her to see her need.

    We can read that chapter in 5 minutes, and we wonder how long it took for the Lord to reach the depth of that woman’s heart and bring her into such a genuine experience with God that she brought the whole city out to hear the Lord.

    Wasn’t that wonderful?

    It was spiritual perception that did it.

    Jesus began talking to the woman about ‘living water’, something from the spiritual world.

    Naturally this caught the interest of the woman, as she was burdened with the daily task of carrying water in the natural physical world.

    She naturally asked Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep and are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”

    Jesus explained that when people drink ordinary water, they get thirsty again.

    But he had spiritual water springing up into everlasting life.” The women ask him for some of this water so she may not thirst again. (John 4:15)

    The woman left the water jar she has brought and hurried back to the town. ‘She said to the people “Come and see a man who told me everything I have ever done!

    He cannot be the Messiah, can he?”

    They left the city and went on their way to him.’(John 4:28-30)

    Leaving her water jar behind seems like a trivial piece of information, but it parallels other incidents in the gospels, when various men left their everyday pursuits, abandoning fishing nets or tax collection tables to immediately respond to Jesus.

    The Samaritan woman did the same thing, but on her own initiative. T

    he woman told everyone about Jesus.

    We talk about soul winning and about being a witness to the Lord, but we must realize that we will be a real witness to the Lord when we have the perception and the discernment to sense an individual’s needs, and we reach in and minister to him or her.

    This could make us one hundred times more effective than any soul-winning methods we have ever seen.

    When I pray over people I seek to hear and see in the Spirit so that I may minister direct to their needs and to bring forth a Rhema Word from God.

    I prophesy and speak out what I see and hear spiritually over their lives.

    I don’t want them to leave with out being impacted deeply for God.

    When they leave I want them to leave with something that will stay with them and help them in their walks with God. They get prophecies spoken over them that impact them. They get encouragement from the Lord. They get Jesus the Living Water.

    Be sensitive to what God is doing, enter into the Kings chamber and hear Him and see what He is doing. Get something from the Lord!

    Make time to cut yourself off from phones, texting, the net, gaming, videos etc…

    And just wait upon the Lord. Not so easy in these last days. But if you want ears that hear and eyes that see spiritually, you will pay the price gladly.

    Do you think the world has all of these wonderful distracting things in these last days for nothing?

    The god of this world wants everyone distracted and occupied.

    We can’t even look up and see the stars as they are because of all the chemtrail spraying operations and all of the pollution that obscures.

    Get free of encumbrances and every weight that keeps you from waiting before the Lord.

    Hebrews Twelve: One
    …let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

    So shut off the computer, put down the ipad, get off your cell phone device and go to a quiet place and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the spiritual to you.

    Seek after the world that the eyes cannot see, the ears cannot hear, and the imagination of the heart cannot perceive.

    Seek after the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. That God will reveal to us by His Spirit… I Corinthians two: nine and ten.

    Honestly, if you don’t then do not expect to see any more then you have already seen.

    You will remain arrested in your spiritual growth.

    Watch your flat screen and let the next move of God pass you by…or?

    Nothing is set in stone, you can make a difference in the lives that you come across if you will get your eyes and ears truly open!

    Go after the Living Water.

  19. randall slack says:

    Mark 13:32-37
    “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is. It is like a man going to a far country, who left his house and gave authority to his servants, and to each his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to watch. Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming — in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning — lest, coming suddenly, he find you sleeping. And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch!” NKJV

    Jesus could come today or 1,000 years from today. He always expected His followers to be ready for His coming. We seem to live in an age where people are either whipped into a frenzy or completely apathetic towards the End Times. And either view is wrong, IMHO… just saying.

  20. Em says:

    if you’ve ever waited up for a child who didn’t come home on time, you know exactly what it means to watch …
    i can’t find much fault with those folk who got all excited because Jesus’ return was about to happen … naive perhaps, but it wasn’t off the wall nuts as some proclaim so loudly now … the folk who made merchandise of excitement may have some things to straighten out with God, however
    today, instead of being scornful of other Christians who sensed the imminent rapture, the now older and wiser might reset their expectancy to one that mirrors the Jew’s declaration of ‘next year in Jerusalem’ … and just keep hope alive?
    (the folk who don’t believe in a rapturing out period never cared much one way or the other – doesn’t necessarily make them smarter, tho 🙂 )

  21. Ixtlan says:

    After reading this again, the question entered my mind, what is the book of Revelation telling us?

  22. Revelation is just another gospel account about the rule and reign of Christ.
    A good portion is John’s account of Matt 24 on steroids

  23. Shaun says:

    Great satire piece Michael.

  24. Xenia says:

    Tonight our parish will have a short prayer meeting, without prophecy updates. However, I think everyone there feels the world is in a terrible state and will only get worse before the Lord returns.

    At my Russian parish, Russia is considered the good guy in prophecy and is not Gog or Magog. All depends on where you live, I guess.

  25. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Our church also will have a service tonight – no prophecy updates. However as a church that does follow the church calendar, it should be noted to those of you who do not, that tonight is the Eve of Jesus’ naming and tomorrow is the festival of our Lord’s Circumcision.

    Now this is something to party about. 🙂

  26. Xenia says:

    Nope, it is St. Sebastian Day.

  27. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I could celebrate some St. Sebastian – of the John Sebastian type

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