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  1. Dread says:

    It is doubtful if anyone here can claim more harm from lying prophets than myself. Though this is not to provoke scar comparisons. However, my faith is rooted in the reality of a God who speaks. “Today if you hear his voice do not harden your heart.”

  2. Linn says:

    Hast Thou No Scar

    by Amy Carmichael

    Hast thou no scar?
    No hidden scar on foot, or side, or hand?
    I hear thee sung as mighty in the land,
    I hear them hail thy bright ascendant star,
    Hast thou no scar?

    Hast thou no wound?
    Yet, I was wounded by the archers, spent.
    Leaned me against the tree to die, and rent
    By ravening beasts that compassed me, I swooned:
    Hast thou no wound?

    No wound? No scar?
    Yet as the Master shall the servant be,
    And pierced are the feet that follow Me;
    But thine are whole. Can he have followed far
    Who has no wound nor scar?

    Obviously, this goes with the article “Worshipping a God of Scars.” I think I have posted this poem before on this site, but whenever I think of all the problems I have (and I do have them), I’m drawn back to this poem by Amy Carmichael. Following Jesus means having scars and wounds. Some are self-imposed, some come from other people, and some are just part of the human condition. But, I have One who died for those scars, and rose again to conquer sin and death. The longer I know Jesus, the more I treasure those scars.

  3. Captain Kevin says:

    I’m glad that list of coolest/weirdest church buildings includes the Chapel of the Holy Cross in Sedona. I’ve been there a couple of times and it really is beautiful.

    I’ve never even seen that one in Phoenix referred to as an eyesore, and I’ve lived here for 18 years.

  4. Captain Kevin says:

    Linn, “Hast Thou No Scar” is beautiful!

  5. Captain Kevin says:

    “Was J.R.R. Tolkien a Universalist?”

    Is it wrong of me to not care about this even a smidge?

  6. Eric says:

    I was reading my journal from 2014. At a prayer meeting someone who didn’t know me said he saw me as someone who can be trusted – of the all the Christian virtues he could have guessed for me, he chose one I thought fitted me. He also said things were about to happen for me. He may have said “today”. The record does not show anything significant happening in the days or months following that morning.

  7. Kevin H says:

    CK,

    I’ve been to that chapel in Sedona, too. Quite cool.

  8. Michael says:

    I don’t like framing the communication of God as simply “God speaking”.

    God is in constant communication with His creation and His people and most of that communication occurs outside the Bible….simply because most of our lives are lived without a book in our hands…

  9. Nathan Priddis says:

    Slightly off topic..but..

    It just gets weirder and weirder. What is a current day Evangelical to make of this? Especially a Dispensationist?

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/putin-demands-israel-give-russia-control-of-jerusalem-church.html

    Is it Gog, Magog and Armageddon…oh my! Or Russian Hoax? Big Eva looks more like sheep without a Shepherd to me.

    Evangelicalism is reaping the consequences of selecting Trump as King and Messiah. Trump only commented on topics of connection to him. At least back when Gothard was Messiah, he would tell everybody what to think regarding all kinds of topics. You knew what to think, because Gothard told you where going to think.

  10. BrideofChrist says:

    The article about Q – Anon mothers is chilling. More so because here in San Diego the trial of the Christian surf school owner in Santa Barbara who killed his two children starts in May. I’m not sure why the trial will be here in San Diego. My husband thinks it’s because he was arrested here when he crossed the border from Mexico back into the U.S. The most recent depositions show that both the Christian father and the Christian mother of the two toddlers were deeply involved with Q’Anon conspiracies. They had connections with Calvary Chapel Santa Barbara at some point. I wouldn’t want to be on that trial jury and if I’m summoned I think I will make some excuse to avoid jury duty until the trial is over. I know I couldn’t handle it.

  11. LInn says:

    Nathan,

    I think Putin has just come unhinged. Whether or not that has anything to do with prophecy, I don’t know, However, his actions seem to reveal someone who is literally hell-bent on getting what he wants, no matter the cost. When he falls, I think it’s going to be fairly catastrophic.

  12. Steve says:

    BrideofChrist, to be honest with you, I think that Q-anon mothers article is nuts. To me it’s a conspiracy about a conspiracy which makes it a conspiracy itself.

    “….most people who believe in core QAnon tenets are totally unfamiliar with QAnon itself…”

    Seems to me, throw anything into the Q-anon bucket that you don’t like or you don’t agree with, call it a Q-anon tenant and make the bold claim it all came from the same Q-anon inspired dark underworld and you got yourself primed for far left wing indoctrination.

    I don’t really know much about Q-anon other than what I read here. However, I am raising a 5 year old daughter and some of my concerns may appear to lean in a Q-anonish way. Maybe I am susceptible because I want to be the best dad possible. For instance I will never let her get an emergency use covid vaccine. I believe they are dangerous for kids. I will take her out of public school if they force it. I will take her out of public school if they start to teach her sexual gender ideology LGBTQ+, ect before she is old enough to comprehend. These are just a couple of examples of many that would probably be in the Q-anon bucket but does that make me a Q-anon dad?

  13. Michael says:

    So…perhaps it would be worth your while to actually investigate QAnon before you make ridiculous accusations about what you read here.

    Those examples would not be in that bucket…but you wouldn’t know that, would you?

  14. bob1 says:

    a Q-anon tenant

    There is no such thing, unless you rent from someone from Q-Anon, I guess. Or not.

    Makes about as much sense as the rest of your irrational rant.

  15. bob1 says:

    Cue outrage and hysteria.

  16. Josh says:

    “my concerns may appear to lean in a Q-anonish way.”

    Its actually the opposite, Steve. Q-anon and other conspiracy theories lean towards your concerns. There are common things that dads of five year old girls are afraid of, and there is always someone looking to capitalize on that fear. That doesn’t make you a follower of Q-anon, just their prime audience.
    Now, if you believe JFK Jr is alive, and will serve as VP for Trump when he takes office again, you might have a problem.

  17. bob1 says:

    Background and history are usually illuminating…as Josh said, these groups are exploiting parents’ fears. Have been for decades.

    The Right’s ‘Grooming’ Rhetoric Didn’t Begin with Q-Anon — You Have to Go Back a Bit Further to Get to the Source

    https://religiondispatches.org/the-rights-grooming-rhetoric-didnt-begin-with-qanon-you-have-to-go-back-a-bit-further-to-get-to-the-source/

  18. Steve says:

    Michael, I definately fall into the “susceptible” person category on multiple fronts according to the article. I actually didn’t make any accusations, I just critiqued an article.

    Bob1, the quote can directly from the article about Q-anon tenants but it never defined them. Thats my point. I guess we should just leave it to the “neutral” tech giants of Facebook, YouTube and Twitter to define it and put the right algorithms in place to ban this horrible stuff and we’ll all be ok.

  19. Michael says:

    Trey will get his diploma after graduating in the fall.
    I took every class with him, read every word he read, and listened to every lecture he did.

    He was never indoctrinated or groomed, not once, nothing even close.

    We ended the year with four history classes in one semester…not a sniff of CRT.

    He was exposed to teachers who would literally cry when they spoke of how proud they were of what he had overcome and what he accomplished.

    That doesn’t fit the narrative…but my fist will fit in the mouth of anyone who made false accusations about any of his teachers.

  20. Michael says:

    Steve,

    Maybe read a freaking book on the subject…that’s a novel concept.

    In case anyone can’t tell…I’m sick of all this crap.

  21. bob1 says:

    I mean, if one had a young child, of course you’re concerned about their welfare. What kind of parent would you be if you weren’t?

    But groups like Q-Anon — which I consider a full-blown cult based on a fair amount of content I’ve read — exploit those natural fears to their own end. That’s uber-dangerous.

  22. Steve says:

    bob1, it’s not “if”, it is that I “do” have a young child that apparently makes me susceptible to Q-anon. No one to my knowledge is exploiting my fears. What’s the uber-dangerous comment about? Is Q -anon an existential threat to me that I need to specially go read a “freaking” book about Q-anon to understand all its tenants? I don’t personally know a single Q-anon person who believes the crap let alone aware of a group.

  23. bob1 says:

    Once again…the correct word is “tenets.”

    You should do some reading on Q-Anon, yes. I’d say you owe it to yourself and your family. This stuff is like the proverbial frog who gets placed in a cold saucepan. The heat is gradually turned up and then at some point, the
    frog is toast.

    Now obviously this metaphor isn’t 100% accurate. But I’d suggest you do some reading about QAnon. Go to YouTube and find stories, many of them from Christians, whose lives have been ruined by this propaganda.

  24. Dan from Georgia says:

    Church people being poor tippers…

    I’ve probably been one of those who did lay down a tract or two in the past after a dinner (can’t remember if I left money also), regardless of whether it was early Sunday afternoon or a late Wednesday evening.

    I have heard from more than a few how some (read: most) restaurant workers dread Sundays because we don’t leave tips, or tip poorly.

    I wonder if Old Country Buffet has the worst tippers on Sundays, seeing that they are full most Sundays.

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